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Taking studio photos, what am I doing wrong
on: June 29, 2006, 11:53:45 AM
Hi there,

Wonder if people can help here.  Im fairly new to all this after inheriting a Nikon d100 and some bowens lights along with a light tent.

I wanted to take some pics of my case to show off on some forums but the results that Im getting arent that good.  I know alittle about fstops and changed them (the longer the fstop the more light gets let in?)



My photoshop skills are limited so im kinda in the middle at the moment.  If anyone can help out Id appreciate it

Re:Taking studio photos, what am I doing wrong
Reply #1 on: June 29, 2006, 12:06:07 PM
I5ts all the same colour so its hard to distinguish between background and foreground

You chould only need a relatively low apature too. F8 is a bit high try an f4. This will increase your shutter speed and then sync it with your flash.
Why didnt the flash fire as its in a studio?
try an Automatic run and see how that turns out.



Re:Taking studio photos, what am I doing wrong
Reply #2 on: June 29, 2006, 12:13:21 PM
I dont have a flash, im using some studio lights from bowens which dont appear to be that bright to me but what do I know.

Ill try something automatic and see what happens, what about changing the background, would that potentially help?


Re:Taking studio photos, what am I doing wrong
Reply #3 on: June 29, 2006, 12:18:23 PM
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I dont have a flash, im using some studio lights from bowens which dont appear to be that bright to me but what do I know.

Ill try something automatic and see what happens, what about changing the background, would that potentially help?



Iwould image so. I dark backgound will make the case seem brighter and easier to see

EDIt: somat like....


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Re:Taking studio photos, what am I doing wrong
Reply #4 on: June 29, 2006, 12:24:10 PM
Since  My ex rugby coast did this for a living white on white my brother had an issue with and he helped him

You need an reflected light source to produce shade on the object and the background to make it stand out.
Direct light like a lamp say will produce the orange glare and to harsh, as they do int he sutdio the light faces a silver collector and is bounced back.

Try a lamp facing away and some tin foil in an umbrella shape, dont know if it will work (He lent my brother one of his bits)

Re:Taking studio photos, what am I doing wrong
Reply #5 on: June 29, 2006, 12:40:29 PM
Just having a look at my lights now, they do have a what can only be called a white sheet, that goes over the front of the lights to stop the harshness I believe

The case is actually inside a light tent but I think I put the lights over the top resulting in the harshness.  Ill try angling them so it hits the light tent first and then try with some carboard and tin foil. If it works Ill send out some freebies to people (ive loads stuff floating about that somone might find interesting lol)

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Re:Taking studio photos, what am I doing wrong
Reply #6 on: June 29, 2006, 14:11:14 PM
 
Your photos seem a little underexposed and lack contrast.

You dont need studio lights to do product photography (although it helps).

This was taken with a single flashgun...


I sh*t you not.

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Re:Taking studio photos, what am I doing wrong
Reply #7 on: June 29, 2006, 14:22:31 PM
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Your photos seem a little underexposed and lack contrast.

You dont need studio lights to do product photography (although it helps).

This was taken with a single flashgun...


I sh*t you not.

 :mrgreen:
 


Wow.. I hate you lol.  To increase the exposure I can increase the shutter time (thats the fstop isnt it)  could you make a few suggestions to help us out?

Taking studio photos, what am I doing wrong
Reply #8 on: June 29, 2006, 16:35:46 PM
Just fix the levels. Simply choosing the "auto" option in the Gimp (or *shop) will tighten it up.

Re:Taking studio photos, what am I doing wrong
Reply #9 on: June 29, 2006, 16:47:50 PM
F Stop is apeture not shutter.

Apeture = the amount that the shutter opens
Shutter time = the time that the shutter is open that amount.

Large F stop = small apeture.
Small F stop = large apeture.

Small F stop = shallow DOF (in eagles photo the rear of the photo is blurry, the front isnt)
Large F stop = Deep DOF = Everything will be in focus.

Eagle is right however, instead of using a white background in your light tent get hold of a piece of dark material to stand the material on, a sheet of flexible black plastic stuck onto some plywood will suffice (look for fablon in B&Q), same goes for the backdrop, get hold of a metre of some soft fabric (preferably not felty... because it picks up dust and crud thatll be possible to see, but cotton should be fine, a local market should be able to get you that stuff for a couple of quid).

Use a diffuser (the white stuff you have in front of the lamps) to soften the light. and thats it pretty much.

You may also find non-typical bases and backgrounds work best... so not necessarily black and white, but maybe light blue and white, or bright deep yellow and white.

Re:Taking studio photos, what am I doing wrong
Reply #10 on: June 29, 2006, 17:21:37 PM
@ M3ta7h3ad  

Thanks for the help so far buddy.  Thats the sort of information that Ive been looking for but not really had it made that clear.  So the bigger the Fstop the more in focus Ill get it.  Right with you now :D

I think I have some blue type bed linen that I can use as a background and bottom all in one.  Long as i have enough, reflections shouldnt be a problem.  I will do some more pics and then do a quick post here with an update.

Seriously thanks everyone for help thus far.

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Re:Taking studio photos, what am I doing wrong
Reply #11 on: June 29, 2006, 21:13:57 PM
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...So the bigger the Fstop the more in focus Ill get it.  Right with you now :D

The bigger the number, yes.  Large f number = small aperture = less light onto the recording medium BUT... greater Depth of Field* which inherently gives you a little more leeway for errors in focusing.

*Depth of field is the zone of acceptable sharpness extending approximately 1/3rd in front of and 2/3rds behind the point of focus at any given aperture.

Simple! :lol:  :twisted:
 

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Re:Taking studio photos, what am I doing wrong
Reply #12 on: June 29, 2006, 22:36:21 PM
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Just having a look at my lights now, they do have a what can only be called a white sheet, that goes over the front of the lights to stop the harshness I believe

The case is actually inside a light tent but I think I put the lights over the top resulting in the harshness.  Ill try angling them so it hits the light tent first and then try with some carboard and tin foil. If it works Ill send out some freebies to people (ive loads stuff floating about that somone might find interesting lol)


Doing it that way tends to diffuse the light, ditch the tent then try using a single direct light on the case at about 45 degrees from your shooting angle, it will be harsher but you can adjust the exposure time for that and it will introduce hard shadows. and as brummie says change the background colour, its so near the case that it isnt doing anything for it.
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Slightly darkened and contrast enhanced a little, software will save a lot of pictures.

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Wow.. I hate you lol.  To increase the exposure I can increase the shutter time (thats the fstop isnt it)  could you make a few suggestions to help us out?


Eagle is a real pro, you could learn a *LOT* from him ;)

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Re:Taking studio photos, what am I doing wrong
Reply #13 on: July 02, 2006, 00:26:03 AM
brummie, eagle - keep that sort of stuff out of photography or a lot more posts are going to be removed.

Re:Taking studio photos, what am I doing wrong
Reply #14 on: July 12, 2006, 14:40:51 PM
back with an update.

Ive setup the white balance a bit btter now Ive learnt how to do it, did a shot with the shuter set to 1/60

Does this look any better?

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