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Tonys response to the petition
Reply #60 on: February 22, 2007, 12:50:17 PM
yeah, but how much in petrol and parking fees and congestion charge?

Also 3 people in a car is carpooling, thats also a green thing :) Its good to share transport.
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Re:Tonys response to the petition
Reply #61 on: February 22, 2007, 12:58:41 PM
No one pays that much for parking except in the centre of London. It might add a tenner to your costs, max.
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Reply #62 on: February 22, 2007, 13:03:04 PM
I did long distance train journeys every week for about 6 months last year and it was a nightmare.

Waterloo at rush hour is stressful.
The Portsmouth - London train is stressful.
£100 tickets are stressful.
Having a 5min margin of error thx to delays on a 250mile journey and worrying about getting stuck for the night is stressful.
Having to wait 3hrs for a train is stressful.
The tube getting bunged up is stressful.
Trying to find details for bus links at the other end is stressful, having to pay £10-50 for a taxi when the bus doesnt show up...


Yeah its a nice way of getting around when you dont have a deadline to meet and everything runs properly, ...
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Re:Tonys response to the petition
Reply #63 on: February 22, 2007, 15:09:28 PM
Metalhead... your talking crap.
Its cheaper for me to go to London by Car than Train. Its also usually quicker unless I only wanted to go to paddington. I also get a seat & not have to stand squashed up for more than 1/2 the journey.

Theres not enough frequent Transport. To get a Train, means I would have to get to the train station. 1 bus an hour & a journey that would take at least twice as long that it would by car.

Funnily Enough, I had to go to Cardiff Today. Took me less than an Hour to get there. I was in, Job done & out over 1/2 hour before I would have been If I had to rely on public transport. As for your bike riding suggestion, I think youve fallen off & bumped your head.
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Reply #64 on: February 22, 2007, 15:10:26 PM
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No one pays that much for parking except in the centre of London. It might add a tenner to your costs, max.


Youve never parked in Central London Have You?
you be luck to get 2 hours for a tenner
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Tonys response to the petition
Reply #65 on: February 22, 2007, 15:11:12 PM
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yeah, but how much in petrol and parking fees and congestion charge?

Also 3 people in a car is carpooling, thats also a green thing :) Its good to share transport.


& £5 a trip on the tube
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Reply #66 on: February 22, 2007, 15:46:15 PM
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No one pays that much for parking except in the centre of London. It might add a tenner to your costs, max.


Youve never parked in Central London Have You?
you be luck to get 2 hours for a tenner


You misread, my point was you would only pay more than a tenner in London. Anywhere else is usually a quid or so for a few hours.

I left my car for 6 hours in a Reading car park and that was the most Ive ever paid, £12 (50p every half hour!)

At least the tube you can get a daypass for, and that can work out reasonable.
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Reply #67 on: February 22, 2007, 17:14:00 PM
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You misread, my point was you would only pay more than a tenner in London. Anywhere else is usually a quid or so for a few hours.

I left my car for 6 hours in a Reading car park and that was the most Ive ever paid, £12 (50p every half hour!)

At least the tube you can get a daypass for, and that can work out reasonable.


A Quid for a few hours? do you travel 17years back in time everytime you drive your 17yr old car? Or you havent spent much time down south/south west?
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Tonys response to the petition
Reply #68 on: February 22, 2007, 17:36:42 PM
 my mate had £30 of parking charges last week.

and now a £60 ticket lol!!!
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Reply #69 on: February 22, 2007, 18:27:34 PM
Lets just face simle facts.

Personal Vehicles are both cheaper and more conveniant 9/10 situations. Which is quite simply why there is congestion and people half happy to be in congestion, which still turns out to be quicker! I couldnt work without a car atm.

Goverment strategy is quite simply to make car travel more expensive, especially for those travelling on their own.  

There is no looking past the black and white on the simplistics of that.  Rather than giving us an alternative, a solution is behind forced down us.
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Tonys response to the petition
Reply #70 on: February 22, 2007, 19:07:11 PM
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yeah, but how much in petrol and parking fees and congestion charge?

Also 3 people in a car is carpooling, thats also a green thing :) Its good to share transport.


& £5 a trip on the tube


Er... £8.50 gets me a travel card for the entirity of the Tube, and its valid all day.

When I go to london, my mate parks up at slough train station, we pay £8.50, get train into kings cross, and tube it around london freely.

Not stressful at all.

Parking in Cardiff is around the £3.50 an hour mark unless your lucky enough to get voucher spaces in which case you can park for 6 hours at like 50p.

Riding a bike for short journeys is incredibly favourable, you only need to see the centre of london to see how popular it is. People riding bikes to and from work in suits, or carrying panniers with their clothes in.

Long distance Id still prefer a train any day. Having been a passenger in a car from cardiff to Hammersmith in london for 4 hours (5am - 9am), Id have really preferred to have just jumped on the direct one for 2 hours and been there 2 hours ahead of schedule, get some breakfast, and head in nice and fresh headed.
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Tonys response to the petition
Reply #71 on: February 24, 2007, 09:10:42 AM
This is why i dont take the train
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Tonys response to the petition
Reply #72 on: February 24, 2007, 09:13:35 AM
Yet you drive, its almost as if you really want to become a statistic.

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Tonys response to the petition
Reply #73 on: February 24, 2007, 09:31:06 AM
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This is why i dont take the train


Yep, thats logical  :roll:

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Compared with road travel, railways remain relatively safe. Annual death rates on roads are over 40,000 in the United States and about 3000 in the United Kingdom, compared with 1,000 rail-related fatalities in the United States and under 20 in the UK. (Sources: U.S. Department of Transportation and U.K. Health & Safety Executive). (These figures do not account for differences in passenger-miles travelled by mode; see e.g. Transportation safety in the United States.)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway
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Tonys response to the petition
Reply #74 on: February 24, 2007, 09:39:21 AM
doesnt matter that the death rate is low, every one of the people on that train will suffer for a long time for it and they had no control over the situation, in my car i can make decisions and avoid things and have some control over life or death, and i wont be doing 95mph and ill be able to stop hella quicker than a train.

The idea of sitting in a metal box on wheels sat on a rail being pushed along at near 100mph with no way of stopping or avoiding accidents and relying on the rails and maintenance to keep it all together makes me feel sick tbh, only been on a train once in the last 10 years and hated every second of my 200+ mile trip.. safe is something i dont feel.
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