FFS I dont want to play final fantasy online with other people. I want to get sucked into a story with decent graphics which havent been sacrificed to allow for online connections and that is totally immersive. I dont want to be in the middle of a quest and then get ganked by half a dozen drunken hooting teenagers.

I think the FF7 remake is something that everyone wants but will never happen.

I can see where Zpyder is coming from, MMOs (in my experience/opinion) dont have immersive storylines like their single player variants.
In the singeplayer games youre a a bonafide hero, the most powerful person in the entire game, the ability to kick everyones arse twice. Whereas in MMOs youre just joe bloggs and it doesnt make for a great fantasy storyline (IMO anyway).

in singleplayer RPGs I really buy into the story and follow it with great fervour. I find myself playing it because I want to find out what happens to the characters during the game and the inevitable climax.

But in an MMO I find the main motivation is to level up and get better gear and to not really give a sh*t about any stories that come up because its completely inefficient to waste time on them when you can be out gaining XP by killing mobs, doing quests etc.


Apologies if thats hard to follow but ive been awake for 24 hours and have lost the ability to make posts seem coherant.
See even that sentence doesnt really make any sense

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FFS I dont want to play final fantasy online with other people. I want to get sucked into a story with decent graphics which havent been sacrificed to allow for online connections and that is totally immersive. I dont want to be in the middle of a quest and then get ganked by half a dozen drunken hooting teenagers.

I think the FF7 remake is something that everyone wants but will never happen.

You dont play many MMOs do you? What youve described may have been how a few MMOs were in the past but really they come in all shapes and sizes for all tastes, from those that enjoy following a storyline and exploring to those who love PvP.

Ive played a few, WoW was the longest, but WoW, WAR, AoC, Eve

I have to admit I have rarely been ganked in the games. But it doesnt mean my enjoyment of the game is such that I constantly fear at any moment the experience will be ruined.

Ultimately the question is...why is a player who hates playing with other people playing a multiplayer game?

Im left wondering how those cutscenes are going to work in FF14...will they be skippable? If they are...thatll ruin it for me as Ill want to watch them and no doubt someone else will skip...but then if its an MMO, chances are Ill be doing the same mission a few hundred times so I might just want to skip it myself...

Im left wondering how those cutscenes are going to work in FF14...will they be skippable?

Good question!

I have no knowledge of how they will work cutscenes in, but there is noo way a final fantasy game would be the same without them.. If I was the designer, then I would have them skipable, but only if all the party chose to skip. I guess this would be the most fair way of doing it.

I too would be well pd off if someone skipped a sequence I had not seen before.

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Im left wondering how those cutscenes are going to work in FF14...will they be skippable?

Good question!

I have no knowledge of how they will work cutscenes in, but there is noo way a final fantasy game would be the same without them.. If I was the designer, then I would have them skipable, but only if all the party chose to skip. I guess this would be the most fair way of doing it.

I too would be well pd off if someone skipped a sequence I had not seen before.

Problem is, if they make it like a game lobby where theres a counter in the corner of 2/5 vote to skip...thatd be nearly as bad as skipping.

I dont know why Im so pissed off, the later FF games where you could really run around, have been pretty poor. I think as a format they worked best on the spectacular rendered matt painting type of backgrounds.

Playing with or playing against?

Both? Im not a serious player but at the same time if I want/need to play with other people its for a reason. IE a quest which simply is not doable on your own. So I dont tend to get on in guilds as I dont ask for help and I dont offer. Wiping in an instance is alright if its an honest mistake, and yeah it can be fun when the group is good. But 9/10 it seems I end up in the group that has an overly bossy player ordering people to do this that and the other, who half the time at the last stage will have a hissy fit and go afk forcing the group to wipe because they wouldnt listen etc. If they dont do that then guaranteed one of the group will have their own agenda and quit once they get the loot or kills they needed. Sure it can be good, but I think I have just been unfortunate enough to almost always be in bad groups etc. The only good groups have been when ive been 20 levels above the required level for a quest and have gone back to do it solo, and end up helping others, who are genuinely greatful.

As to playing against, its alright if playing against likeminded individuals but it seems that most of the time the opposition have a different take on how to play which always grates. People that in ranked games will delete their account and start again, just so they can kick rank 1-10s ass over and over again, or will take a maxed character to the spawning point of level 1 characters. Its funny the first time, if just passing through, but spending 30 mins there making it impossible for people to play, is just pathetic.

I cant remember which game it was, where there was a way for the consensual mmo to be bypassed, some kind of AoE attack or skill, maybe it was if you had a retribution aura or something that damages people a little if they attack you...they spam an aoe, and get hit, and hey presto you got flagged.

It also doesnt stop people from following and kill stealing etc.

Syndicate Wars : When you upgraded your agent to have cybernetic implants bit by bit, and for the first time gave an agent all implants, and then it starts moving and breathing, that was utterly badass at the time