Breaking news from me:

Disc formats are a waste of f**king time and effort

Quote from: Deaths Head

Until you post hard facts to back up your claims I will take what you say as rumour.

Fair enough to hold out and say that but to say "your wrong" is a very dodgy thing to do and cypher made a statement about me being wrong before which is a lie
Was telling some tek folk as stevef was posting in this thread, I very delebritly kept dumming it down, very easy to go in a phd detail about the movie industry medium fair usage rights in terms of the dvd, video and what it means for a single hd medium and what you can and cant do in terms of competition and the associations with the movie industry and deals between companies ignoring the fact machines are consoles and the groups etc.
Stevef is a stupidly smart scientist who tends to over analyse stuff on the forums and goes into full phd mass essay mode sometimes focusing on hardware things a little to much, Interesting a bit but he does go on a bit to much detail for some threads So on purpose was not going to into it becuase I do happen to know a few people about town so when official hits links posted but I cant, but know its happening
(echoed by others pms at the time)

Actually the reason I was posting wasnt as a scientist its that I now work in the video processing technologies division of a company who supply both Sony and Microsoft and are in direct competition with AMD and NVidia for this market.  Specifically in Bluray decoders for hardware I have the full specs and meetings with these companies on a regular basis.  We also have continuous patent wars so you know what projects your competitors are working on.  Its entirely possible this is all going on above my level (which wouldnt be too difficult) but you do tend to hear things of this scale.

The impression I get is MS and the HDDVD consortium totally didnt see this coming and Sony have no rush to throw Microsoft a player.

Im glad you dummed (sic) it down for me but I do do this stuff 7-8 hours a day.  You make websites in New Zealand and get your sources from kids on MSN.  But well wait and see.


Now, Microsoft will almost certainly be trying to get a BluRay player together.  Thats fairly obvious.  What will eventually happen is Microsoft will pay enough to persuade Sony or some random news site will post a link a month or two from now saying theyre trying to forge a deal.  Youll then post here saying hahahahaha Im right!!!11111 Youre all wrong, etc etc.  Now what I was saying is right now (i.e. this moment) Microsoft have no license, have no partner in hardware, have no permission from Sonys marketing section and have non of the Sony engineers working with them.  Thats them not having a bluray player and you talking rumours.

If they get the license 3 months from now that doesnt mean youre correct it means they persuaded sony.  Until that point its speculation and rumours.  Thats the difference you dont seem to get.


Tell you what.  Im going to say its the year 2009.

You can now argue Im wrong.  But in 10 months you bet Im coming back here, quoting the line above me and saying youre all wrong and feeling hard done to youre not eating your words.  Now everyone will know you were right when you posted that it wasnt 2009.  But because Im about 99% sure itll eventually be 2009 Im fairlly safe in making that claim.  Thats what youre doing here but Cyphers right Ill just leave it.  Its a waste of time.

You are a website maker who lives in New Zealand and gets your info from websites and MSN.

Or am I missing something?  Im being 1000% serious.  You dont have to reveal your source but did you by any chance hear it over MSN?  That at least you can confirm or deny.

It sounds rude but that is the truth as far as I understand it.  And I know you fairly well.

I am going to take the stick on the chin, I backed the format that lost - crap but meh, fair play to blu ray but I know I am right and right so far how its panning out and I am sticking to it

Ive got nothing to do with the argument... just to say, he hasnt taken out the kids bit... its still there, and the edit time is before his last post, and theres only one edit, so he couldent take it out and put it back, guessing he just fixed a typo etc. which he spoted when he came back to post again  

I wouldent post... but I think editing stuff out like that is pretty low... and he didnt do it so shouldent be tard with that brush!

I know m8, thats why he re typed it but left out the kids bit but I did mention I think if I did not quote it that word would be gone
You got a bit messed up there m8, He edited the first post today with a bit more about blu ray a little back tracking if you will at the end of that post
then posted..

You are a website maker who lives in New Zealand and gets your info from websites and MSN.

Or am I missing something? Im being 1000% serious. You dont have to reveal your source but did you by any chance hear it over MSN? That at least you can confirm or deny.

It sounds rude but that is the truth as far as I understand it. And I know you fairly well.

Where he left out the kids bit, and I mentioned the first time he said it would have been edited if it was not for the quote
Some folk would also take the New Zealand bit as a pop at indicating you are in the middle of now where and what would you know? but I am not

EDIT - Not offended he is a m8, but he is getting a little heated and having a few pops, fair doos but no point for cloak and dagger,  He has an ace job and fing smart But even then someone can be wrong and have someone else know something they may not realise they did or knew people who could know more as well
Despite what people say I tend to not stick my neck out on something unless I am sure - Wrong sometimes like anyone else but I am really positive the way things will happen is how it will happen and well it is so far

Im sure steve doesent need me here defending him... but personaly, Id have missed the kids bit out the second time too, fair enough it was a little bit harsh the first time, by missing it out the second time he stoped it being just plain "nasty" and turing into a slagging match

if you call someone a **** once its no big deal, do it again and it becomes a big deal.

I agree m8, even said its basically water under the bridge but with the other comments made it was a pop fair enough but he did try and brush it aside as not one which for me is worse
All under the bridge though, He disagrees and thinks I do not know anything, fair enough end of the day do not really care but when pop shots at a person starts etc - then thats getting silly

Also my edit (before your reply) did not in any way back track.  It added some info about Bluray on the end of the post and corrected a typo.  Nothing else.

Everything else youre saying is just a lie and I find that far ruder than saying your source is most likely a kid on MSN.  Which I still believe to be the case.

There is also the issue of M$ previous buyers, they already have enough bad publicity from things like the ring of death issue, if they just pull a new player out of the box now those who bought the HD-DVD one are not going to be pleased. I expect they will wait a few months at least before bothering to announce anything, even if the deal was already done.

I can see them offering a rebate system to be fair.  MS dont care as much as Sony about losing a little money to get the market.  The XBox line is one of their prongs to get into your living room, office and pocket.  They arent looking at short-term gains, they want everyone to run their lives on MS hardware or software.  The idea of a Home Server, Windows machines as clients, with a Windows Mobile phone, and an XBox in your living room to stream content from the server while also operating as the hub to your Home Media experience isnt hard to see.  Would be more attractive to buyers if they can have their phone sync with their server, than syncs with every other media device they own.  In the next few years youll likely see MS Branded TVs, or with an MS Approval to be linked up by wireless to stream media from the server or XBox.