Author Topic: Web hosting (Read 7009 times)

Clock'd 0Ne · **Reply #30 on:** August 19, 2013, 09:44:54 AM

Re: Web hosting

Reply #30 on: August 19, 2013, 09:44:54 AM

I actually edit the db out of habit now, just to be safe. It's likely that in most instances you are right and it is just the choice of plugins I've been working with.

zpyder · **Reply #31 on:** August 20, 2013, 10:18:12 AM

Re: Web hosting

Reply #31 on: August 20, 2013, 10:18:12 AM

Well I've sorted the email out, and enabled compression on the server. Using GTMetrix, the rating went from F to B when I enabled the compression.

http://gtmetrix.com/reports/www.microphoto.co.uk/JfI4Rs5Q

Things are still pretty sluggish though. I'm assuming if I were to disable all my plugins, and test the site, that if a plugin were responsible the change should be instant, and not have any form of delay before any difference is noticed?

Last Edit: August 20, 2013, 10:24:46 AM by zpyder #187;

Clock'd 0Ne · **Reply #32 on:** August 20, 2013, 10:19:05 AM

Re: Web hosting

Reply #32 on: August 20, 2013, 10:19:05 AM

Which site is it that's slow? I'll take a look and see if there's anything obvious.

zpyder · **Reply #33 on:** August 20, 2013, 10:27:30 AM

Re: Web hosting

Reply #33 on: August 20, 2013, 10:27:30 AM

Well thinking about it with a fresh brain this morning...

zpyder.co.uk is a joomla site and is fast enough and behaves as you would expect.

Microphoto would take about 5-7 seconds to load a page, both front end and admin, so I assume it's a wordpress issue.

Just deleted all my deactivated plugins, and disabled all the others. Everything ran fast enough I'd say.

Started to reactivate plugins, got bored, reactivated them all, and it's still pretty fast. Can a duff plugin slow a site down even if it's not active?

EDIT
Having said that, it does seem to be slowing down a bit now... Try viewing a few different species on microphoto and the other pages and tell me how fast it is for you?

Last Edit: August 20, 2013, 10:29:15 AM by zpyder #187;

zpyder · **Reply #34 on:** August 20, 2013, 10:35:04 AM

Re: Web hosting

Reply #34 on: August 20, 2013, 10:35:04 AM

Well, I think it might have been one of these:
NextGEN Gallery
Regenerate thumbnails
Ultimate CMS
Flickr Embed

Deactivated those and it seems to have sped up again. Thing with them though is that I think I installed those plugins a while back when I was trying to speed things up :|

Maybe the email thing slowed stuff down, so I installed plugins to speed up, not knowing that they weren't helping until I sorted the email problem.

Clock'd 0Ne · **Reply #35 on:** August 20, 2013, 14:18:48 PM

Re: Web hosting

Reply #35 on: August 20, 2013, 14:18:48 PM

It's not super fast, the slow speed seems to be response time from the server though. The best thing you could do is to install a cache plugin like WP Super Cache or W3 Total Cache, this will dramatically improve site speed as it will load the pages as pure html from cache, which is always good for google rank.

zpyder · **Reply #36 on:** August 20, 2013, 16:29:39 PM

Re: Web hosting

Reply #36 on: August 20, 2013, 16:29:39 PM

Already have WP Super cache installed

Main thing is it's faster than it was.

Clock'd 0Ne · **Reply #37 on:** August 20, 2013, 18:37:08 PM

Re: Web hosting

Reply #37 on: August 20, 2013, 18:37:08 PM

It must be the server response time then. It might be worth chasing it up again with the hosts and see if they think it's all running correctly now.

M3ta7h3ad · **Reply #38 on:** August 20, 2013, 19:27:12 PM

Re: Web hosting

Reply #38 on: August 20, 2013, 19:27:12 PM

I would have thought that compression would slow the site down further. You're asking the server to compress its http responses on the fly.

Flickr plugin is what I'd point the finger at too, as that sounds like it goes and grabs from an external site before updating. Only takes some dodgy JavaScript ajax call and your site is held up, yeah its meant to be asynchronous but its not if its done badly.

Could also be throttled if using api keys.

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M3ta7h3ad · **Reply #39 on:** August 20, 2013, 19:29:36 PM

Re: Web hosting

Reply #39 on: August 20, 2013, 19:29:36 PM

Curiosity... Do a tcpping and a tcptraceroute to your site. Just wondering if its the hoster or the path to it or something else.

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Clock'd 0Ne · **Reply #40 on:** August 20, 2013, 22:24:27 PM

Re: Web hosting

Reply #40 on: August 20, 2013, 22:24:27 PM

the pages themselves seem fast to load, its waiting for a response from the server that is taking time, so M3ta7h3ad's idea is pretty good one doing a traceroute to see where its slow.

Quote

Tracing route to microphoto.co.uk [192.254.235.203]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 71 ms 99 ms 99 ms dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 23 ms 23 ms 22 ms lo0-central10.pcl-ag03.plus.net [195.166.128.184
]
3 23 ms 27 ms 22 ms link-a-central10.pcl-gw01.plus.net [212.159.2.16
8]
4 23 ms 23 ms 22 ms 200.core.access.plus.net [212.159.0.200]
5 26 ms 26 ms 25 ms ae2.pcl-cr02.plus.net [195.166.129.7]
6 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms ae1.ptw-cr02.plus.net [195.166.129.2]
7 23 ms 24 ms 22 ms 10gigabitethernet5-1.core1.lon1.he.net [5.57.80.
128]
8 104 ms 97 ms 100 ms 10gigabitethernet10-4.core1.nyc4.he.net [72.52.9
2.241]
9 118 ms 107 ms 149 ms 100gigabitethernet7-2.core1.chi1.he.net [184.105
.223.161]
10 145 ms 136 ms 139 ms 10gigabitethernet4-1.core1.den1.he.net [72.52.92
.234]
11 156 ms 148 ms 157 ms 10gigabitethernet4-2.core1.slc1.he.net [184.105.
222.154]
12 159 ms 158 ms 191 ms ace-data-centers-inc.10gigabitethernet1-4.core1.
slc1.he.net [66.160.133.118]
13 179 ms 148 ms 148 ms rtr-b.unifiedlayer.com [199.58.199.118]
14 149 ms 149 ms 152 ms 192.254.235.203

Trace complete.

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Tracing route to www.google.co.uk [173.194.78.94]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 26 ms 99 ms 99 ms dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 32 ms 22 ms 23 ms lo0-central10.pcl-ag03.plus.net [195.166.128.184
]
3 23 ms 23 ms 25 ms link-b-central10.pcl-gw02.plus.net [212.159.2.17
0]
4 46 ms 22 ms 22 ms 202.core.access.plus.net [212.159.0.202]
5 30 ms 22 ms 23 ms ae1.ptw-cr02.plus.net [195.166.129.2]
6 39 ms 22 ms 23 ms 72.14.223.32
7 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 209.85.252.188
8 23 ms 24 ms 22 ms 209.85.253.92
9 53 ms 28 ms 28 ms 72.14.242.166
10 28 ms 36 ms 29 ms 209.85.252.83
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 29 ms 35 ms 29 ms wg-in-f94.1e100.net [173.194.78.94]

Trace complete.

Quote

Tracing route to www.tekforums.net [217.160.114.99]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 59 ms 99 ms 100 ms dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 24 ms 24 ms 22 ms lo0-central10.pcl-ag03.plus.net [195.166.128.184
]
3 25 ms 25 ms 49 ms link-a-central10.pcl-gw01.plus.net [212.159.2.16
8]
4 43 ms 23 ms 70 ms 200.core.access.plus.net [212.159.0.200]
5 23 ms 25 ms 26 ms ae1.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.0]
6 23 ms 23 ms 31 ms linx.bb-c.the.lon.gb.oneandone.net [195.66.224.9
8]
7 40 ms 36 ms 36 ms te-1-3.bb-c.bap.rhr.de.oneandone.net [212.227.12
0.49]
8 46 ms 38 ms 38 ms ae-4.bb-d.bs.kae.de.oneandone.net [212.227.122.7
]
9 41 ms 62 ms 38 ms ae-2.gw-dista-a.bs.kae.de.oneandone.net [212.227
.121.216]
10 38 ms 82 ms 38 ms vl-999.gw-ps11.bs.kae.de.oneandone.net [212.227.
125.13]
11 38 ms 37 ms 44 ms kundenserver.de [217.160.114.99]

Trace complete.

Compared to google and tek, the path to your host does seem slower, but not considerably enough to affect the page loading, its probably a combination of factors. I'd definitely talk to your host again.

Last Edit: August 20, 2013, 22:30:00 PM by Clock'd 0Ne #187;

zpyder · **Reply #41 on:** August 20, 2013, 23:57:33 PM

Re: Web hosting

Reply #41 on: August 20, 2013, 23:57:33 PM

I've updated the ticket with that info, will see what they have to say. Have to admit that if I needed to move, the quality of spelling etc from the 1&1 rep is a bit lacklustre :/ I guess worst case scenario if I do move, I can always move back.

zpyder · **Reply #42 on:** August 21, 2013, 00:01:31 AM

Re: Web hosting

Reply #42 on: August 21, 2013, 00:01:31 AM

Won't the traceroute be affected by location? I ran a traceroute from a site that had european and american start points, and the NY based host was more akin to the results you posted for Google and Tek. Where is 1&1 based?

Clock'd 0Ne · **Reply #43 on:** August 21, 2013, 00:29:14 AM

Re: Web hosting

Reply #43 on: August 21, 2013, 00:29:14 AM

1&1 is european based (Germany I think from the .de) but I believe they now have a UK based datacentre, or at least UK DNS routing as the domains I most recently configured through them specified UK DNS entries.

If you want I'll host a copy of your sites for you temporarily so you can test it and see what you think, although that might give a skewed indication since I'm using their business level package which has more processing power allocated.

zpyder · **Reply #44 on:** August 21, 2013, 09:13:39 AM

Re: Web hosting

Reply #44 on: August 21, 2013, 09:13:39 AM

Quote

Hello,

Here is an updated report on your currently installed applications:

Up-To-Date Applications:
========================================
Wordpress :: 3.6 :: /home2/zpyder/public_html/www.microphoto.co.uk
Wordpress :: 3.6 :: /home2/zpyder/public_html/freshairphotography.co.uk

Vulnerable Applications:
========================================
Drupal :: 6.16 :: /homefffffffffffffffffff
Joomla :: 1.5.23 :: /home2/fffffffffffffffffff
Joomla :: 1.5.23 :: /home2/zfffffffffffffff
Joomla :: 1.5.23 :: /home2/zffffffffffffffffffff
PHPList :: 2.10.13 :: /home2/zpfffffffffffffffffffff

Here is the caching mechanisms for the reported applications:

+++ WordPress caching report +++

/home2/zpyder/public_html/www.microphoto.co.uk
Caching Plugin: WP Super Cache (Active)
Caching Enabled: Yes Recommended
Browser Cache: No Yes
Rewrite Mode: No Yes
PHP Mode: Yes No
Legacy Mode: No No
Cache Users: Yes No
Compression: No Yes
Cache Expiry: 1800 s 3600 s

/home2/zpyder/public_html/freshairphotography.co.uk
No caching enabled.

+++ Joomla caching report +++

/home2/zpyder/public_html
Sessions: Database
Maint mode: No
Compression: No
Caching: No (file)
Cache Time: 15 min
SEF URLs: No SEF Suffix: No
Use Rewrite: No Use CAPTCHA: No

/home2/zpyder/public_html/topmouthgudgeon.co.uk
Sessions: Database
Maint mode: No
Compression: No
Caching: No (file)
Cache Time: 15 min
SEF URLs: No SEF Suffix: No
Use Rewrite: No Use CAPTCHA: No

/home2/zpyder/public_html/test
Sessions: Database
Maint mode: No
Compression: No
Caching: No (file)
Cache Time: 15 min
SEF URLs: No SEF Suffix: No
Use Rewrite: No Use CAPTCHA: No

None of the above applications are correctly caching, this will always impact your initial load times because the server has to execute your PHP code on every page load, caching allows the content that was generated to be loaded statically rather than processing the PHP code on every request. Please review our documentation on how to optimize these applications:

Optimizing WordPress: http://support.hostgator.com/articles/specialized-help/technical/wordpress/optimizing-wordpress
WP Super Cache: http://support.hostgator.com/articles/specialized-help/technical/wordpress/wp-super-cache-plugin
Optimizing Joomla: http://support.hostgator.com/articles/specialized-help/technical/optimizing-joomla

If you continue to experience poor performance, please tell us which domain or URL specifically is being problematic so that we can more finely investigate the cause of the performance hits.

Also, if you wish to remove an application that you installed via Fantastico you can just simply remove the directories and their respective MySQL databases. This can all be done through the cPanel interface. If you require further assistance with this please let us know.

If you have any other questions or concerns please let us know!

Best regards,

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