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Re:Ataxia (Chinese Stem cell)
Reply #30 on: March 05, 2008, 21:03:42 PM
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If a British Lord Mayor has treatment in China, obviously human rights wasnt going to stop her. :cheers:


Its called survival.. those who bleat about it wouldnt turn down a new heart & lungs grown that way if it was to save their or their kids life.

Just that people dont have anything better to do but moan.

Human rights is a load of bollocks.
Those usually affected by human rights are nothing more than scavangers of the human race who have nothing to offer but to leech & waste resources.

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Re:Ataxia (Chinese Stem cell)
Reply #31 on: March 06, 2008, 10:00:34 AM
great news.
NAME: Donald Maricelli

AGE: 54

COUNTRY: USA

DIAGNOSIS: Spinal Cord Injury

REASON FOR COMING TO TREATMENT: In 2002 Donald suffered from a fall and injury, which resulted in a lack of sensation in his legs and a lack of strength. In 2003 he was diagnosed with a herniation of T10-11 and underwent an operation to correct this problem. Unfortunately, the operation was not successful and left him in a worse state than he was before; his lower extremities were completely paralyzed. Since then he has done extensive physical therapy and has regained much of his ability to move and some sensations. However he was still unable to walk unaided. Before the injury Donald was an active member of his community both through his job and community organizations. After his injury he could only participate in these activities to a limited extant and could no longer go to work.
TREATMENT: Umbilical Cord Stem Cell and Nerve Growth Factor Injections with Rehabilitation Therapy.

START OF TREATMENT: November 27, 2007

 AFTER THE TREATMENT: After the completion of his treatment, Donald had experience several significant improvements that he felt would have a major impact on his standard of living. He regained the sensation throughout most of his abdomen, and the sensation in his legs also improved. Particularly important, the sensation on the bottom of his feet came back, helping him to walk without tripping. Most important to Donald was that he regained control and strength in his left leg. He was able to pick it up off the ground, for extended periods of time and was able to lift his foot and toes. All these improvements combined to help him be able to walk for significant distances and stand for long periods of time. Before the treatment, walking 20ft by himself would have taken great effort, but after the treatment he was able to walk distances of over 200ft without holding onto anything.

http://www.stemcellschina.com/content/view/809/15/lang,en/

Re:Ataxia (Chinese Stem cell)
Reply #32 on: March 06, 2008, 20:37:45 PM
Ive just spoken to  David Blair hes still very happy, hes improved, but it cost him £12000, I was expecting him to say 2000, but what its given him has no price.

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Re:Ataxia (Chinese Stem cell)
Reply #33 on: March 07, 2008, 02:12:31 AM
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http://www.stemcellschina.com/content/view/809/15/lang,en/


Try looking on other sites, its far too easy for them to give the successful cases while ignoring the failures.

As for the rest, there is the problem of desperation, and you are desperate for a cure. The problem seems to be you dont have the dosh available.

Re:Ataxia (Chinese Stem cell)
Reply #34 on: March 07, 2008, 13:33:56 PM
heres a independant report about China.
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/07_07/b4021061.htm

Stem-Cell Refugees
Yanks are flocking to China for therapy

SUCCESS STORIES
Good or bad, Chinas clinical work is already cutting-edge. More than 100 Chinese hospitals are currently performing stem cell procedures, according to Jon Hakim, a Minnesota native who has been appointed director of the foreign patient services department at Beike, helping Nanshan Hospital recruit patients. Since opening up to foreigners about a year ago, Beike has treated 170 of them from 29 countries. Like Melton, most of them find out about Beike from the Internet, and many write their own blogs in China and after they return home. In addition to spinal cord injuries, doctors treat multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy, and ataxia, a genetic disease that leads to deterioration of muscle function. While undergoing stem cell treatment, patients may also receive physical therapy, acupuncture, massage, drugs, and electrical stimulation. The average price tag: $17,000, plus airfare

Richards Venture to China for Stem Cell Therapy
http://richardsventure.blogspot.com/2007/09/international-ataxia-awareness-day.html

Re:Ataxia (Chinese Stem cell)
Reply #35 on: March 07, 2008, 14:10:51 PM
another blog.
Ive aplied to my bank for a loan, China is calling.
Stem Cell Treatment for Ataxia
Before leaving Canada, I had an email discussion with a stem cell researcher in USA. He is not connected with this treatment and cannot endorse it. However, he did give me some inputs on the questions I should ask the doctors in China. It was reassuring that I did not hear any horror stories. I am really hopeful that the China approach will get accepted by Canada/USA before long. In USA, they are waiting for a new administration post-Bush. And in Canada, they are probably waiting for the Americans to say yes.
http://stemcellataxia.blogspot.com/2008/01/its-friday-am-in-india.html

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Reply #36 on: March 07, 2008, 14:13:45 PM
Good hope u get a loan, couldnt you get some money from NHL as they cannot themselves give you the treatment ?

Re:Ataxia (Chinese Stem cell)
Reply #37 on: March 07, 2008, 14:20:21 PM
a email to my sister.
From: Brian McNeill
To: Janean Dunn
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:16 PM
Subject: RE: Stem cell treatment China


Hi Janean,
 
Sorry to hear of you and your brothers illness ( same as me SCA1 )
 
Yes I do the arrangements for Beike company in China. I have also been for stem cells in China and found it to have had a great effect on my speech, co-ordination, energy and balance (balance improved but not as good as the other ailments? ) It is now 10 months since my treatment and I still feel better now than when I went there. I have just spoken to an Indian/Canadian guy who has just returned from China and he also said he has the same improvements as me, he also has SCA1.
 
I will attach informations about the treatment and costs, also there is an application form called, patient information which needs to be filled in and returned to me on-line so that I can give it to the doctors in China for you to be assessed.
 
Also if you have any questions or wish to talk to me personally, you can call me on; 01880820529
 
The cost just now is $23,300 for the treatment, you need to make your own travel arrangements but will be collected and returned to the airport. I have attached 2 patient application forms for you and your brother.
 
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Re:Ataxia (Chinese Stem cell)
Reply #38 on: March 07, 2008, 14:24:28 PM
So which bank are you going to rob?

Does anyone have any idea if these "fixes" are long term or will they wear off in a year or two?
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Re:Ataxia (Chinese Stem cell)
Reply #39 on: March 07, 2008, 14:32:36 PM
nice money crash. Hold off a few months & that $23k will be nearer £10k

Re:Ataxia (Chinese Stem cell)
Reply #40 on: March 07, 2008, 14:39:47 PM
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nice money crash. Hold off a few months & that $23k will be nearer £10k

i cant, time is my enemy now.

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Reply #41 on: March 07, 2008, 15:58:00 PM
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Good hope u get a loan, couldnt you get some money from NHL as they cannot themselves give you the treatment ?


sh*t, the  bank said no

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Re:Ataxia (Chinese Stem cell)
Reply #42 on: March 07, 2008, 16:03:24 PM
If you dont mind me asking what specific type of Ataxia do you have?

Re:Ataxia (Chinese Stem cell)
Reply #43 on: March 07, 2008, 16:29:14 PM
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If you dont mind me asking what specific type of Ataxia do you have?

SPINOCEREBELLAR ATAXIA 1; SCA1

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/dispomim.cgi?id=164400

Re:Ataxia (Chinese Stem cell)
Reply #44 on: March 08, 2008, 18:41:56 PM
the shocking prices.

Basic Treatment Program   4 SCT (20day)
US Dollar   20K
   
5 SCT (25day)
23.3K

4 SCT+Surgery (35day)
29.5K

6 SCT(30day)
26.5K

7 SCT (35day)   Extra inj Book Advance(2-5day)
29.3K   3.5K

Stem Cell Types:
We utilize Umbilical Cord Stem Cells exclusively. A baby’s umbilical cord is a rich source of stem cells. These cells are the basic building blocks of the human body and are able to transform into other types of cells, such as bone, heart, muscle, and nerve cells. Our transfusions consist of three subsets of stem cells known as CD34+, CD133, and Mesenchymal stem cells. CD34+ and CD133 cells have been shown in numerous studies to be prone towards becoming tissue.
Mesenchymals have been found to be inclined to become numerous types of cells, including but not limited to chondrocytes (a type of cell critical to tissue renewal, particularly cartilage), liver cells, kidney cells, and neurons. Lab tests have also indicated that as Mesenchymal stem cells combine with other cells (such as CD34+ and CD133) they will boost the transformation process of other stem cells. These Mesenchymals also appear to be able to conduct repairs in relation to vascular disorders within the brain, ocular areas, and throughout the body, including but not limited to the heart, kidney, and pancreas.
For more information about Beike Biotech and its stem cell technologies, please visit www.beikebiotech.com

   
Thats why only the Chinese do it they use Umbilical Cord Stem Cells, as people know bush vitod it and made it illegal.







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