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Homesun scheme
on: August 18, 2010, 11:54:32 AM
Anyone heard of:

http://www.homesun.com

??

My parents have been looking into it, Ive been kept out the loop. As Im still receiving copies of emails sent to my fathers inbox, Ive finally found out the name of the scheme etc from an email that says we may indeed be eligible.

Decreased energy bills for free, or a small cost if your house isnt totally suitable...(£500 one off fee + £5 a month...compared to the thousands if you didnt do the scheme), can only be a good thing. They appear to get their money back by getting the Feed in tariff. So, the client gets money off their bills by not needing as much money out of the grid...whilst homesun gets the money from the energy that goes into the grid.

On the face of it it seems like a great idea, as there are many people like us who cant afford the initial cost of setting up a system, despite the long term benefits. I can only wonder though...households like us likely will use all the energy the panels produce (and more)...theres likely a catch...such as the fact that households will be using most energy at night/evenings when the panels arent producing energy, so bills arent reduced that much as the household will be using the grid mostly, and during the day people are out, the panels producing energy into the grid, and homesun reap the benefits.

Its also a 25 year scheme...what happens if/when you want to sell your house...will you need to buy out of the scheme or something?

Thoughts?

Homesun scheme
Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 12:04:34 PM
youll have to read the small print for that company as theres a few around offering the same king of thing...

the trick is to have your dish washer/washing machine/etc set up on a timer to run while its nice and sunny outside

if you sell the house, they stay with the house, and iirc after 25 years they can come and take everything back.... but itll all be dirt cheap by then anyway

as long as you read the small print, and they replace any parts that break etc... then you have nothing to loose.
(most panels are guaranteed for 25 or 30 years anyway, but an inverter is ~£5k, most are only guaranteed for 3 years, and are expected to last about 10)

not much good for the summer, but for the winter you can setup a system so heaters can be automatically tuned on/off up/down to match the amount of power being exported so it warms your house up a bit :-)

if you want to spend a bit more, you could have it divert power to your hot water tank (if you have one) and heat that up instead

look here http://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/
(Im knighty on there too)

theres a load of people on there running these systems, or bought there own panels etc. etc.


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Re:Homesun scheme
Reply #2 on: August 18, 2010, 12:08:35 PM
Personally I wouldnt bother with any type of scheme like this a lot can change in 25 years, including energy prices. The cost of panels will reduce over time, look at how fast technology turns over. Why buy into yesterdays technology today and pay for it tomorrow? Theres always a new scheme around the corner, or a more efficent and cheaper design of an existing model.

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Reply #3 on: August 18, 2010, 12:22:50 PM
It looks like a really good scheme, something Id be interested in joining if only I was Due South facing instead of SSW :/

HomeSun make their money from accruing all of the FiT (Feed in Tariff) payments made for the generation of electricity. According to the tariff HomeSun are quoting, that would mean that HomeSun would be paid 33.6p for each KWh generated by your house, regardless if that power is then consumed by your house or not.
Additionally there is comment (somewhere on the site) that there is an additional payment made for electricity that is then fed onto the grid.

Ok, but...

Only perfectly sited roofs will receive a £0 install. They state that 3% shading causes a 25% drop in efficiency and you need to have a round 30m^2 of available roof space. Otherwise you have to pay £500 towards the install.

Given the current economic climate and the collations "cut, cut, cut" spending policy, Id be very careful about this:
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This Renewable Heat Incentive (RHI) is a world first and is due to come into effect from 1st April 2011, although any qualifying system that was installed on or after 15th July 2009 will be able to claim the payments once the system goes live.


The tariff that the website is quoting is not live and therefore could be scrapped before becoming live. I cannot find any information on the website as to what would happen if that were the case.


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Reply #4 on: August 18, 2010, 12:27:39 PM
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Personally I wouldnt bother with any type of scheme like this a lot can change in 25 years, including energy prices. The cost of panels will reduce over time, look at how fast technology turns over. Why buy into yesterdays technology today and pay for it tomorrow? Theres always a new scheme around the corner, or a more efficent and cheaper design of an existing model.


Thats actually a good point. I was reading an article the other day about a research lab somewhere that has figured out a way to increase the purity of silicon through the reheating of old/waste silicon components.
The article said something about this leading to a huge increase in the efficiency of solar panels and reduction in their cost at the same time.

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Reply #5 on: August 18, 2010, 12:57:18 PM
Im going to look into that.. I looked into a wind turbine a few years ago to sell the power I put into the grid.
That seems much better option as solar panels was out of my price range

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Reply #6 on: August 18, 2010, 13:53:12 PM
There was an article in New Scientist a few years ago by Bjorn Lomborg (Sp?) - an economist/environmentalist skeptic. I rebelled a little and referenced it in an environmental law exam. Basically at some point he mentioned the fact that in Sweden or some other scandinavian country where there was a massive push to get everyone on solar, the cost, both economic and environmental (in terms of resources needed) was a mistake, as 5 years later the tech meant that had they waited, things would have been much cheaper and more efficient.

However if you wait like that, its like anything, you HAVE to buy into it at some point, else youll just end up waiting for each new release of a tech only to decide to wait for the next.

As to the 2 different models (free and 500 installation), I dont doubt for a second that homesun will be making 99.9% of people pay the £500...but even then this is much much cheaper than doing it off your own back.

The added bonus is whether we pay for damage...we live next to a primary school playing field and this year I caught a bunch of the kids throwing things at our windows during their lunch break (they havent done it since  :yarr: ) But I dont doubt for a second the reason we occasionally get poor satellite reception is down to the kids throwing things on the dish that overlooks the field. Annoyingly the panels would face the field too, but if Homesun maintains it all etc, thats a bonus for us...

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Reply #7 on: August 18, 2010, 14:12:18 PM
Ive looked at that & have applied.
My roof faces south/south westish, so see what they have to say.

Water heating isnt really needed for me as I have a combi/condensing boiler, so have no water talk,
I dont see any mention of batteries & storing the power.
So that would mean, the only power I would get free, would be what I use when im at home during sunlight hours.
Still, would be a nice selling point to the house & add value in the future.


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