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Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #90 on: March 08, 2012, 11:23:59 AM
Quick question, i wanted to run xbmc on the hp but can i also use it as a server to backup my files ect at the same time,would it involved partitioning my drive in some way ? sorry if thats a daft question.

If you run the same or similar setup to the one in the guide there is no need to partition. You install Windows then run XBMC as a Windows application. Windows then handles all you backups as it would normally just with XBMC running at the same time.



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Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #91 on: March 22, 2012, 17:28:34 PM
Arrgg im not getting this setup into action too well, life keeps interuptiong. stolen half hour from my kitchen duties to revisit the site and work out how to do this bios update, but im sorry to say im  lost again.

I can see there are 3 versions on the front page, how do i find out which one i need? and do i execute this file on my pc then plug into the server after?

im going to aim to set up a day to work on this shortly asit has sat waitng for over a month for me  :o


Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #92 on: March 22, 2012, 19:23:22 PM
Arrgg im not getting this setup into action too well, life keeps interuptiong. stolen half hour from my kitchen duties to revisit the site and work out how to do this bios update, but im sorry to say im  lost again.

I can see there are 3 versions on the front page, how do i find out which one i need? and do i execute this file on my pc then plug into the server after?

im going to aim to set up a day to work on this shortly asit has sat waitng for over a month for me  :o

I'd expect you will want the last link of the 3 posted by Clock'd, and you can run this on any computer, as it just creates the USB drive (obviously you'll need a USB drive handy!)

Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #93 on: March 22, 2012, 20:09:39 PM
thanks  :cheers:

Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #94 on: March 29, 2012, 19:24:02 PM
Hi,

I have a question on choice of OS. I want to use the server for backing up several computers around the building, however, I also want to use part of it as a web server (Just for development phase, it would host no actual sites, only ones I was working on).

What would be your advice on OS choice? I'm going to get 8GB of RAM, and will be purchasing more HDD space soon.

Thanks.

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Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #95 on: March 29, 2012, 19:35:25 PM
If you're using it for web development surely a linux distro would be most suitable so you can get apache/php and so forth setup in a typical linux server config? It depends what development platform you use, if it's Java for isntance you might find Windows easier?

Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #96 on: March 29, 2012, 20:34:23 PM
As clock'd says your web development requirements may have to dictate your OS choice, in terms of your network backup what OS are you running on your network, I assume it's a windows network?

Backup

Assuming a windows network, what type of backup are you looking to run? Are you looking to run backup software on each machine and push to the server, if so the OS on the server may not matter so much. If you are looking at a pull backup, I.e. the server pulls the data from the network computers, then you may be better running some form of windows OS? Do you have any thoughts on the software or strategy?

I'm not a fan of computer specific data, that is then pulled or pushed to the server, a better option is obviously have the server master the data, and use offline files if you use laptops.

Also what's your current network setup, do you have any domain controllers?

Web server

When launching websites what is your target OS? As these are usually Linux based, but not always? Also it may be advisable to separate webserver from file server? The other option is to run virtual servers on the one server, of which my personal experience is limited and may need some technical knowledge to setup. What's your knowledge of Linux? And what services are you expecting to run on the web server?

Sorry not to give a definitive answer, but there are lots of options and trying to work out the best choice  ;)

Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #97 on: March 29, 2012, 21:45:53 PM
Hey,

Thanks for the replies.

I'm clueless
If I'm honest - I'm a total newb when it comes to this stuff. Never tried Linux. I was hoping to use this as a nice learning experience, while also gaining beneficial from the end product.

Current Network Setup
All the PCs in the building are running Windows (XP on a few, most are Win 7). I'm not entirely sure how to explain the network set up, I didn't set it up myself, but basically it's got no server but all the PCs connect to a device ... which then connects to another device. Essentially theres phone and internet ports all around the building, each cable leads back to the box in teh attic, where the two devices are, cables go into one, then they go into the other from the first device. As for domain controllers ...I would guess we don't have one, but that's only a guess.

Back ups
Preferably it would be people choosing what to back up onto the server, but I'd like it (If Possible) so that each computer / person has their own area that has their backups on, and who can access that area is restricted by set permissions (As we also have some employees that work here, I wouldn't want them access our private files, but I would want to be able to access their data etc).

Having said that ... I would of liked it so we wouldn't need to do anything after initial setup, as I'm the only one that has technical knowledge (though limited in areas like this!), I think people may struggle to remember how to, and to backup to the server every so often. So if it would be possible, after the initial setup on the machine, would it be able to backup the same areas as before that would be specified in the initial run? Does that make sense?

Web Server
The company I have hosting with for the websites that go live use Linux on a cloud network, so there built to work on that anyway but are developed on Windows machines. The languages I currently use (Server Side) is PHP and I use MySQL to interact with databases.

Services
Services wise I'm not totally sure what you mean, I use XAMPP as a local server on my machine and have the Apache + MySQL service running all the time. But XAMPP also has things like phpMyAdmin etc (Though thats not a service as far as I'm aware, it's just a GUI web app for accessing / changing stuff in databases).

Preference
I'd really like to be able to use something I haven't done before ... like Linux. I did look at freeNAS but that doesn't have web server (Though they say it's coming in 8.2).

Thanks, I really appreciate your advice.

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Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #98 on: March 29, 2012, 22:09:06 PM
You'll find that OS's like FreeNAS or unRAID are just stripped down core versions of one flavour of linux or another, you can typically bolt on whatever you want to these if you know what you're doing (kind of like buying Windows Basic vs Windows Home Ultimate Turbo edition). It would probably be easiest to start with something easier to work with as a transition from Windows, like Ubuntu, and add on whatever packages you need for it. Out of the box I'm sure Ubuntu could meet most of your requirements though (can't vouch myself as I've not used it).

Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #99 on: March 30, 2012, 19:43:09 PM
Personally if you don't have a techincal knowledge, I wouldn't put Linux on the box if you are going to use it to backup important data! I'd put something on there you know, probably some form of windows... I'd then use another computer to play with Linux. The main reason being if you break linux, then to fix it is either going to take time or be near impossible depending on knowledge and googling skills!

Current network setup:
Yep sounds like a standard non domain based network, so will make things a little more difficult :)

Backups:
One question does each user have a different username to login to their computer, do they all have passwords?
If so I'd setup multiple shares on the server with each folder the same as their username, you'll then need to setup the users on the server as normal users but they would need to enter their passwords on the server (Due to lack of domain controller) This will mean that you can restrict access to each folder by the username.

Then I'd map a network drive to that folder on the server, so assuming the server is called "SERVER1" you could use the below code in a file called 'mapuserdrive.bat' and put this in the startup folder of each user..

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net use u: \\server1\%username% /persistent:yes

If you then wanted to map the my documents folder to use the U drive then you could, and that would automatically backup all documents to the server, if you have laptops however you'll also have to setup cache, to allow offline files, which will sync when the share is available (connected to the network)

If you are using XAMPP currently, and happy with that, then there's no reason you couldn't run that on the server as well..

The other alternative is setup windows server as a domain controller, but that would be quite a pain if your users aren't part of a domain already and Windows 7 home I don't believe is compatible?

Maybe we have given you some ideas, maybe I've just confused matters :)

Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #100 on: March 30, 2012, 20:21:57 PM
Thanks for the replies once again, I really appreciate the time you are taking to offer this advice.

My technical knowledge limitation is mainly regarding the linux type OS's as I've never used one, only Windows / Mac and Google OS i've used.

The computers are all on Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate (Except one that is Windows XP, and also a family Laptop that is on Windows 7 Home Premium).

Each user has their own username, and every has a password specific to them. Most of the computers are only used by 1 person, so there's no username the same on another machine (If you get what I mean).

I'd like it so they wouldn't need to login to the server if possible (I think that's what you were implying?) - rather just have something automatically back up their files to it, not store the actual ones on there, but the backups.

Would these be compatible if I were to install something like Ubuntu? And would I require a server version of say Ubuntu or just use the normal one?

Thanks.


Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #101 on: April 09, 2012, 10:44:39 AM
sorry for another question, i have booted the hp and my bios is 04/02/2011 bios id 041 can i just use the modified update over this or do i need to make it 2011.01.17 specifically?

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Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #102 on: April 09, 2012, 11:22:16 AM
You can use the modified BIOS over this without having to change BIOS versions beforehand, the reason that 2011.01.17 BIOS version is mentioned specifically in the guide is just for example as that was what they shipped with originally, the method is the same whichever BIOS revision is already on the unit.

Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #103 on: April 09, 2012, 13:54:22 PM
thanks  :)

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Reply #104 on: April 09, 2012, 16:50:39 PM
Soo..four and a half hours later and i still cannot get the files onto the usb to flash, tried everything i know. I went to the Av forum link in first post

followed guide

 1. Get the latest HP firmware (SP52016.exe) that can be patched dated 2011.01.17 (A) (28 Feb 2011).

2. Execute the official HP firmware (SP52016.exe)

3. Run the HTM file start.htm, click on the link "Launch HP USB key Setup Creation Utility". The HP USB creation utility "HPQUSB.exe" will run and select your usb stick as the target.

when trying to setup the usb it brings up the box to chose location of usb drive and then takes around 20 mins to copy files. on inspection it has copied the whole contents of my documents folder, so i deleted the files re downloaded and placed the exe file in another location, treied from c/ and no joy , then created its own folder and placed HPQUSB.exe in it before running , this time it copied only some of the files that are in the list , i have tried to execute the file under administrator and get no joy.   

please what do i do???

update, copied the extra files onto the usb alone with the modified rom , plugged into server and booted, get a screen with lots of lists with illegal partion table says file name not recognised at bottom...

wow this is stressful stuff.

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