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Nifty 50...
on: February 20, 2012, 22:52:21 PM
Well I hear much talk of these..

Canon EF 50mm F1.8 II for sub £70 seems like a bargain for a canon lens.. sure not an L series but still a canon..

Fast glass to.. do they have very high IQ? and just how useful are they? no IS though... a problem?

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Reply #1 on: February 20, 2012, 23:01:46 PM
Buy one, its one of those lenses that you might not use all the time but you probably won't buy a lens for that price that produces sharp images and gives you F1.8.

The only bad thing I've heard about the canon is the build quality isn't great, its a bit plasticy but for the price you can't complain too much.

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Reply #2 on: February 20, 2012, 23:34:52 PM
Seriously get one, ok it's not L glass and has no IS, but it's very quick...

Here are some photos I took of a friends daughter, in a not very well lit room for most lenses...

It's a great lens for portraits or just those situations where you can't or don't want to use a flash

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.487661622472.256003.516892472&type=3&l=6905a88328

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Reply #3 on: February 20, 2012, 23:37:24 PM
I've got one. Took it to a few of my old flamate's gigs, was perfect for small venues with not much light. Tis cool to use for portraits too.

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Reply #4 on: February 21, 2012, 07:26:00 AM
Agree. And if in doubt, you can always try mine. Most of my mushroom photos were taken using it:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zpyder/sets/72157627351465779/

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Reply #5 on: February 21, 2012, 09:57:23 AM
I find it a bit long on my cropped body, I cant remember if you're full frame? I think I'm going to get a 30mm 1.4 instead.

Apart from that I love it, definitely the best value for money lens available.
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Reply #6 on: February 21, 2012, 10:14:32 AM
It is a bit long, but generally in the low light situations I've used it in this has worked in its favour, as I'm either trying to photograph someone on a stage, or my friends across the table.

The other bonus is the plastic construction makes it very light, which is handy if weight is an issue. I really enjoyed my mushroom photography walk last year as: A - I wasn't weighted down like normal, and B - shooting with a prime meant a bit more of a challenge in the composition, but I think the results are much better as a result of it.

Failing that a f2.8 17-50mm isn't a bad shout, though my tamron is noisy is hell focusing!

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Reply #7 on: February 24, 2012, 17:01:19 PM
It's all-plastic construction is somewhat flimsy, but it does produce sharp images down to f/1.8. With a 5 blade aperture however, out of focus highlights are pentagon in shape, rather than circular. The Canon f/1.4 does better in this regard and is more solidly built - at £280 it is more expensive, but perhaps worth considering. The Sigma f/1.4 is slightly more expensive again, but produces better IQ... provided you win the Sigma QA lottery.

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Reply #8 on: February 24, 2012, 22:58:02 PM
It might not have an L on the sticker, but remember, the nifty 50 was developed back when camera companies liked to supply a good lens with the body to make it shine in consumer tests.

The 50mm prime is probably the most "sorted" lens in the 35mm format and at the price Canon chuck the f/1.8 out for it's not really worth NOT having one. My 50mm 1.4 never leaves my camera bag unless it's to be mounted on the camera.

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Reply #9 on: February 25, 2012, 16:18:11 PM
Whichever 50mm you buy it has to be multiplied by the relevant sensor ratio, so a 1.6 multiplier on a Canon camera will give you an 80mm lens. That means it is pretty much perfect for most portrait work. Some prefer a shorter lens but that is going to lengthen the face in depth, others go for 135mm but longer lenses shorten the face.

To be really honest it isn't worth not having a 50, it's short light design make it easy to carry and the wide aperture makes low light photography easier. It also can do both photography in towns and country effectively if you don't have a wide angle.

That said I have used a 500mm lens to take photos of people with an aversion to being photographed, for some this would rate a phobia, but wanted a good picture of themselves and this gave acceptable results. My mother sat for one photo she knew I was taking, it looked terrible, she was obviously tense and stressed to be sitting there. When taken without her knowledge she looked much more normal and the product was far better.

All that said I wouldn't like it to be my only lens, but if I had to have just one then it would be a good compromise.
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Reply #10 on: February 25, 2012, 16:20:11 PM
it's not really worth NOT having one.

Unless you have the Canon or Sigma f/1.4... or the Canon f/1.2L  ;)

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Reply #11 on: February 25, 2012, 16:24:19 PM
it's not really worth NOT having one.

Unless you have the Canon or Sigma f/1.4... or the Canon f/1.2L  ;)

Yes, but those are also 50mm lenses, and the precise reason I avoided putting in an f/number :P The f1.8 is also much cheaper for those buying on a budget. One or two stops doesn't make that much difference in normal photography.

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Reply #12 on: February 25, 2012, 20:34:55 PM
Yes, but those are also 50mm lenses, and the precise reason I avoided putting in an f/number :P The f1.8 is also much cheaper for those buying on a budget.

My point is that if a 50mm lens is a must have for portraits on crop (which it is), even though the f/1.8 is very cheap, the plastic build quality and pentagon shaped circular highlights are limiting factors. As such, the Canon or Sigma f/1.4 might be worth considering as they are better built and produce more pleasing bokeh. Also, the difference between f/1.8 and f/1.2 might be slight, but it's not just about maximum aperture - bokeh, colour rendition, flare, barrel distortion, corner light fall-off and AF speed all come into play with the more expensive versions of the 50mm.

For the money, the f/1.8 is worth having, but the f/1.2 trounces it in all areas, which it should being over 12x more expensive. The canon and Sigma f/1.4 offer significant improvement for not such a massive increase.

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Reply #13 on: February 25, 2012, 21:28:27 PM
I didn't say the others were not worth having, they are, if you can afford the price and can justify ownership.

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Reply #14 on: February 25, 2012, 22:43:00 PM
and can justify ownership.

Always.  :D

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