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Nikon D40 (extra question)
on: October 22, 2007, 09:58:17 AM
Finally bit the bullet and am now the proud owner of a Nikon D40. Decided that I wanted to take the plunge away from my bridge camera (Fuji S5600) and enter the world of DSLR.

I bought the kit package, so D40 plus 18-55 kit lens.

What I would like to purchase next would be a really good macro lens, wide angle lens and also a telescopic lens?, not sure what the technical jargon is? Zoom or Telescopic?

Would appreciate some advice on the future additional purchases that would be very beneficial.

My current photos can be found here www.flickr.com/photos/martinturner just to give you an idea.

On a side note, I managed to get it for £269 which I am very happy with.  I found a 10% off Jessops code.  Ordered it online to be collected in store - it registered the discount when I was online, then when I went to pay and collect they said there was no discount codes (not what your website said!).  Had a little moan and they gave it to me, talk about if you dont ask you dont get!

Thanks all

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Re:Nikon D40
Reply #1 on: October 22, 2007, 14:48:00 PM
An 18-55mm lens is a zoom, a 300mm is a telescopic, 200-1400mm is a zoom but is also a telescopic. Zoom means it covers a range of focal lengths, telescopic means it has a longer focal length than a normal one.

Next, according to theory, should be a 55-200mm zoom, which will give you an adequate zoom capability. You might want to stretch that to a 55-300mm to give a bit extra length though.

Another option that you should get is an X2 lens. Cheaper than a telephoto it will double the focal length of any lens you attach to it, thus your standard 18-55mm would become a 36-110mm but you would go down an f-stop too.

The X2 with a 55-300mm zoom would give you most of what you want for wildlife and photographing planes and such.

For most I would advise against going wide angle unless you really need it. Usually you can step back and it saves you some dosh not having one. This would be different for a professional who would consider it an investment and for a specific purpose.

For macro see what your camera is capable of with the present lens, you might be pleasantly surprised. IF not get a cheap lens and try going reverse ;)

Oh and you dont get if you dont ask. Its worth being grumpy about it too :twisted:

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Re:Nikon D40
Reply #2 on: October 22, 2007, 15:55:41 PM
Thanks Serious, much appreciated.

A mate of mine gave me the following advice, thought Id share.

Macro - Sigma 105mm, Sigma 150m, Tamron 90mm, Nikon 105mm

All are proven to be good lenses and sharp (the Nikon is probably sharpest but also rather more expensive). I would say choose whichever is within your budget, but be aware that the extra length on the Sigma 150mm is very useful if you plan on bug-hunting.

Telephoto zoom - Nikon 55-200VR, Nikon 70-300VR, Sigma 70-300 APO DG

The Nikons are superior lenses by far, but if youre on a tight budget then the sigma isnt as bad as its meagre price-tag would suggest! If youre planning wildlife/bird/sports phtography then youll almost certainly need 300mm rather than 200. The VR is very useful in situations with poor light as it allows you to use a slower shutter speed than normal (1 or 2 stops difference).

Wide-angle - Sigma 10-20, Sigma 12-24, Nikon 12-24

Buy the 10-20! Not the sharpest lens in the world, but incredibly wide and a hell of a lot of fun to use. If youre feeling loaded then look at the other 2.

Re:Nikon D40
Reply #3 on: October 22, 2007, 22:51:17 PM
your mate has given you some good advice. Especially about the length of the macro. I use a Tamron 90mm with a 2x converter to give me 180mm F5. This allows me to fill the frame with a butterfly from around a meter away. Absolutely invaluable. Also worth noting is that while the camera brand Macros are technically better, you seriously wont be able to tell at any sensible magnification. Macro lenses as a breed are unbelievably sharp, a bad one is almost unheard of, so save your pennies and buy the Sigma 105 HSM.

Dont forget though, your D40 cannot autofocus lenses which dont have Silent Wave motors. This means it can only auto focus Nikon AF-S lenses and Sigma HSM lenses.

No Tamron or Tokina lens has Silent wave or an equivalent at this time.

I presume with these lenses on a D40 you can still focus manually and use the lens that way, but its something to keep in mind when picking lenses.


PS also Serious made a slight error above, you go down 2 F stops with a 2x converter, not one. Double the focal length, double the F number, so a usable 70-300 F4.5-5.6 zoom becomes a 140-600 F9-11 monster. Not unusable, but dark and hard to focus. Also no AF system on the market will work at that aperture.

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Reply #4 on: October 23, 2007, 00:33:14 AM
X2 converters are for good lighting. My mistake on the f-stop though ;)

As to AF systems working, it depends on the natural light available, my brothers canon 350d does work at that sort of setting, although I was very surprised that it did.

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Re:Nikon D40
Reply #5 on: October 23, 2007, 08:25:42 AM
Thanks for your assistance chaps!   ;)

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Re:Nikon D40
Reply #6 on: October 23, 2007, 14:02:55 PM
Quote from: Serious


As to AF systems working, it depends on the natural light available, my brothers canon 350d does work at that sort of setting, although I was very surprised that it did.


was the lens set at F9+ or was the (effective) lens max aperture F9+

as if its set at F9 it will meter open then step down to the stop to take the shot
85mm lens metering aperture f/9 = O (50mm aperture)
85mm lens shot at f9 = ° (19mm aperture)


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Re:Nikon D40
Reply #7 on: November 15, 2007, 22:44:36 PM
Here is a great site to have a read of.

http://kenrockwell.com/tech.htm

The D40 is a great camera, my other 1/2 has the D40x which is pretty much the same other than its 10MP.

As for lenses then Id go for the sigma 105mm macro and a 55-200mm.

Ive got the 70-300mm nikor which is a great lens for the money (got it for 75quid new off ebay).

Great photos btw, composition is spot on.

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Reply #8 on: November 16, 2007, 09:08:28 AM
Cheers Cornet.

I have found a 70-200 Nikkor on the bay for £120, its the AFS VR one ... think the supplier is in the states although item location is supposed to be Nottingham in the UK.   Am a bit dubious as this lens is twice this price everywhere else.

The link is below, would someone mind having a look and seeing if it sounds okay (they have loads, so do buy one if I have spotted some remarkable bargain!?!).  They have arguable feedback, like 20 negatives in a month, although over 3000 positives, bit hard to decide?  Would you buy it? If I cannot have this then its a case of getting a 70-300 Sigma.

Or have I got it wrong and this lens is not much more brand new from a shop?

Cheers

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-NIKON-55-200mm-VR-AFS-DX-ZOOM-NIKKOR-LENS-55-200-mm_W0QQitemZ180179884971QQihZ008QQcategoryZ30070QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Reply #9 on: November 16, 2007, 10:44:56 AM
24negs... 10,000 positives... id go for it

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Reply #10 on: November 16, 2007, 10:52:05 AM
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24negs... 10,000 positives... id go for it


Thats just the last month, serious powerseller.  It does seem ridiculously cheap though?  Or do you think that is a fair price?  It is supposedly brand new, although the item I believe is the same as Jessops is over twice the price?  Any thoughts on that?

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Nikon D40 (extra question)
Reply #11 on: June 02, 2008, 17:09:55 PM
Im considering investing in a DSLR as Ive always had a compact camera so this is all new to me. Ive actually considered the Nikon D60 but being I take it from all the positive comments a D40 would probably be enough? I travel quite a bit and Im annoyed at the poor night shots from my Sony N1 on my recent travels. The photos I took at the Aquarium were really bad too.

Im going to Canada and New York soon so Im looking at getting something soon. I have relatives in the US so Im wondering if itd be worth getting over there instead, they could purchase it for me beforehand so I have it ready to use when Im there.

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Re:Nikon D40 (extra question)
Reply #12 on: June 02, 2008, 17:25:49 PM
Ive got a DSLR which is great for photography stuff and going out with the intention to photograph stuff. But I am now wishing/looking for a durable compact camera for travelling and work. If I were to go hiking around Europe or similar Im fairly sure I wouldnt take my SLR, but would take a compact. Not because of the expense if it were to get broken or stolen, but the fact that its so much easier to just have a compact, mini tripod and batteries and cards in a small bag, than to have an slr (that without the lens is likely bigger than the compact cameras bag!) a couple of lenses, more rugged tripod due to the size/weight, filters, batteries etc. Add to the fact that if I were to go out at night, something to slip in my pocket is ace, compared to something requiring bags.

Im not trying to put you off a DSLR (though I guess it sounds it) but if you travel a lot, it comes down to prefer travelling and taking a few shots of places you go and things you see, or travelling with the intention of photography, as thats the only time Id take my SLR out, its too much of a hinderance otherwise!

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Reply #13 on: June 02, 2008, 19:14:50 PM
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Im going to Canada and New York soon so Im looking at getting something soon. I have relatives in the US so Im wondering if itd be worth getting over there instead, they could purchase it for me beforehand so I have it ready to use when Im there.


Word of warning if you do, you camera would be classed as a grey import, it would have a US warranty and youd be in the UK so Nikon/Cannon/Whoevers UK branch might not actually honour the warranty.  But if something was to happen you could be able to send it back to your relatives and get them to send it to get repaired.

That being said go for it if you can, with the current exchange rate youd be stupid not to get something when your over there.  Quick check on Amazon.com and they have the Nikon D60 with 18-55 VR Kit Lens for $649.95, which works out at about £330, Amazon.co.uk have it for £419.99.

As for which one to go for, from what I understand they are both very similar but the D60 comes with the Vibration Reduction version of the 18-55mm lens, which is a big help.

And travellings fairly easy with a DSLR as long as you get a decent bag, and remember that you dont have to take every lens youve got, I went to Madeira last year with my D50 with a 18-200mm VR and 50mm F1.8 Lens along with spare batteries, filters cleaning stuff and a mini tripod in a Crumpler Pretty Boy.  Had enough space for my MP3 player, a book, few other odds nsods too and it was never any bother.

Re:Nikon D40 (extra question)
Reply #14 on: June 02, 2008, 19:42:23 PM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nikon-D40-Digital-SLR-Camera/dp/B000KIX65S/ref=pd_ts_ce_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics
from hot uk deals...

erm, I imported mine & was given some 3rd party international warranty - not had anyproblems...
also, dont forget sales tax in some american states.

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