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on: February 20, 2012, 13:58:17 PM
Went to Wales for the weekend for Kathryns Birthday. Weather was a bit unpredictable, but I made use of the fact we were so far out in the middle of nowhere, the sky was pretty clear on Saturday.

I've never used DeepSkyStacker or done any astrophotography before, but it was quite good fun, and pretty cool at how it kind of "de-cloaks" the sky.


Stars 3_ by Chris_Moody, on Flickr


stars and trees_ by Chris_Moody, on Flickr


IMG_3400_ by Chris_Moody, on Flickr


IMG_3276_ by Chris_Moody, on Flickr


IMG_3260_ by Chris_Moody, on Flickr


IMG_3178_ by Chris_Moody, on Flickr


monk by Chris_Moody, on Flickr

Re: Wales
Reply #1 on: February 20, 2012, 14:47:53 PM
Good stuff, I could imagine the cave being quite difficult, did you have a tripod with you?

And you manged to go and bag yourself a 10-20?

Put the star photos into the photo pool for this group on flickr http://www.flickr.com/groups/astrometry/ it'll try and identify what your actually looking at, didn't have loads of luck with the ones I posted but still worth a try.


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Reply #2 on: February 20, 2012, 19:29:06 PM
dan-yr-ogof show caves..... practically on my doorstep & you didnt come say hi :P


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Re: Wales
Reply #3 on: February 20, 2012, 21:11:50 PM
Good stuff, I could imagine the cave being quite difficult, did you have a tripod with you?

And you manged to go and bag yourself a 10-20?

Put the star photos into the photo pool for this group on flickr http://www.flickr.com/groups/astrometry/ it'll try and identify what your actually looking at, didn't have loads of luck with the ones I posted but still worth a try.

Will do. I certainly want to give image stacking for astrophotography another go, I just need to find an idiots guide, as it's all either really basic "you need to use bulb mode" or fairly hardcore technical stuff, nothing inbetween...

The cave photos were all hand held, with only a couple of exceptions I used the 24-105mm f4 L at quite high iso's but with about 1 stop of negative exposure compensation. A couple I used the sigma for, but these were resting on the rocks.

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Reply #4 on: February 20, 2012, 21:27:32 PM
Yeah there's not much inbetween really not that I've seen anyway, got these to read at some point, no idea what they're like but only found them the other week.

http://blog.starcircleacademy.com/2010/10/trouble-with-long-exposures/
http://blog.starcircleacademy.com/2010/10/trouble-with-long-exposures-part2/
http://blog.starcircleacademy.com/2010/10/exposing-for-stars/

They look nice and sharp for hand holding, you thought about trying to do a HDR shot just using the one raw file?

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Reply #5 on: February 21, 2012, 07:48:22 AM
The stars or the caves?

I thought about it. DSS generates tifs for output, so I can tweak the end result to darken the sky but brighten the stars, so almost HDR.

I just need to figure out where I can go to try again that doesn't have much light pollution...new Forest probably...

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Reply #6 on: February 21, 2012, 10:13:01 AM
That flickr group is awesome by the way!

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Reply #7 on: February 21, 2012, 21:07:55 PM
That flickr group is awesome by the way!

Just saw its managed to tag some of the stars in the photos, rather impressive for an automatic script.

The caves, the stars are great as they are.  Its more a curiosity to see what they come out like really it might be a good type of place to use HDR or at least pesudo-HDR.

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Reply #8 on: February 21, 2012, 21:37:04 PM
I've got a couple of shots I bracketed for so will give proper HDR a go in a bit. Not too sure HDR would work well as I think the best effect is the extreme shadows, the image might look too busy using HDR, but we will see...

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Reply #9 on: February 21, 2012, 22:14:56 PM

Cave HDR by Chris_Moody, on Flickr


IMG_3235_ by Chris_Moody, on Flickr

Thoughts? I didn't play around with it too much, just went through the presets in Photoshop. They were either too extreme, or just brought out the detail in the shadows and made the whole image look really flat...

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Re: Wales
Reply #10 on: February 21, 2012, 23:08:48 PM
The HDR edit makes it look like its made out of gold to me. It's quite a cool effect.

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Reply #11 on: February 21, 2012, 23:17:41 PM
If you want to do some good HDR then check out stuck in customs, I follow trey on Facebook and his stuff is awesome, and he has a brilliant guide, he uses photomatix.

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Reply #12 on: February 22, 2012, 13:44:59 PM
Yeah its not too bad, its certainly much golder but there's certainly more detail in it.

I think I've half looked at the tutorial on stuck in customs ages ago but never did any, I do follow his RSS feed and some of his stuff looks great.  One day I will get somewhere that'll take advantage of HDR to try it, which is what made me think of seeing what this looked like HDR, whether you can do it from one shot or is it better to get it from 3 or however many.

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Reply #13 on: February 22, 2012, 20:30:51 PM
Best results are from 3 or 5 shots, most APS-C cameras will do 3 shot bracketing, you usually have to go to full frame for 5 I believe. 7D only does 3 :(

However using a RAW image still gets good results, so if you have anything that is going to move RAW is a must and a lot of Trey's stuff is actually only 1 shot, most is 5 though.

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Reply #14 on: February 22, 2012, 21:26:37 PM
Nothing stopping you from bracketing 3 shots, and then "extending" the range using the low and high brackets by adjusting the RAW exposure values and creating 2 extra images...

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