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Entertainment & Technology / Re: It's Spec-Me-Up time!
« Last post by knighty on Today at 10:17:22 »
I still remember the first time running unreal tournament 2 on my mates system I built for him.... the intro was so smooth... on my system even on min settings it was jumpy

my mate had 128meg of ram tho, the flash basterd
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Entertainment & Technology / Re: It's Spec-Me-Up time!
« Last post by Clock'd 0Ne on March 25, 2023, 10:47:47 AM »
The jumps were a lot larger and more significant back then, we're getting to that plateau where home user performance can't be tangibly improved I think (day-to-day use I mean, for gaming there's obviously huge performance gains to be had with 4K max settings, raytracing, etc).

Compare the jump from a 100Mhz system with 8MB RAM to when the Ghz barrier was broken, etc, its huge. Now we're talking the same kind of clock speeds but just some more cores and architectural improvements. The biggest change is bus speeds and bandwidths for data transfer but even then there's a limit to how quickly things can feel generally.
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Entertainment & Technology / Re: It's Spec-Me-Up time!
« Last post by Eagle on March 24, 2023, 11:47:41 AM »
Quote from: knighty
I still remember the jump going from a spinning disk to an ssd and crave that again lol :-o
Yeah, when I got my first SSD I was like "WTF - why didn't I do this years ago!?"  ;D
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Entertainment & Technology / Re: It's Spec-Me-Up time!
« Last post by knighty on March 24, 2023, 11:38:54 AM »
I'm not sure tbh but I have my doubts, I mean I'm making a leap from 10 year old architecture which doesn't actually feel sluggish most of the time, its mainly wait times for things to process like zipping/unzipping, loading/data transfers. The difference in the new rig is that things feel super snappy, almost instantaneous so far whatever I'm doing though I've not pushed it yet, but your rig is much newer so I think unless you find yourself thinking "Come on" in your head more often than not, its probably not worth it yet, especially if you already have NVMe and I'm assuming thats DDR4 RAM. If the 1080ti is still doing you fine for games, there's little reason to upgrade that either.

On paper the difference between your CPU and the one I've got now is huge, but I wonder if that really translates into a meaningful performance feel:
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-13600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1800X/4134vs3916

One other thing to consider, a lot of things are looking to be coming down in price more rapidly now supply chain and chip production issues are being resolved post-COVID shenanigans, SSDs, memory, etc are all dropping in price. I'd probably wait until at least the end of the year like Eagle is doing before thinking about it again

yeah I'm thinking the same... I'm not sure why but I'm itching to upgrade

tbh I was running an i5-2500k + ssd before this and I hardly noticed the upgrade

back in the days when new chips were out all the time and there was a decent (on paper) performance boost I used to upgrade all the time... and hardly noticed it then

I still remember the jump going from a spinning disk to an ssd and crave that again lol :-o
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Entertainment & Technology / Re: It's Spec-Me-Up time!
« Last post by neXus on March 22, 2023, 22:48:59 PM »
Long time no see!  How is everyone? :cheers:

Eight years ago I asked for build advice here: http://www.tekforums.net/computing-technology-web-communication/fallout-4/msg206241/#msg206241 and it's been going strong ever since.  It still runs MS Flight Sim (my current game) like a champ with Windows 10.

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Intel Core i7 6700k
16GB Kingston DDR4 (2x8GB) 2666Mhz
GIGABYTE GA-Z170XP-SLI Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) ATX Motherboard
MSI GeForce GTX 970 GAMING TWIN FROZR V OC 4GB GDDR5
Corsair RM Series RM750 ATX Power Supply 750 Watt Modular PSU


In Dec 23 I'll be looking to build a new rig to see me for the next ten years, hopefully.  Budget will be around the 2k mark.

I won't be going for a 4k monitor or anything like that.  Just a simple 27" HD one will do me just fine as I no longer do graphic design (therefore colour fidelity no real issue).

Bit stuck on what I should be going for though - should I just keep my existing full size Case and Motherboard and just swap out the CPU, GPU, Memory and maybe the PSU?  Or will I need to upgrade everything?  Of concern is the motherboard - it's a bit old now isn't it?  Will modern components fit and even work?

 8)


I have a 3080 and I do not see the blistering FPS you may see on youtube tech channels because I have that ultrawide. If you go for the 27 inch monitors, even 4k ones you have less pixels to push so you will naturally get and FPS boost.

The main thing is for bang to buck AMD is the king at the moment. Single core Intel are still there but AMD is on the up and Intel is on the down.
In terms of GPU for price AMD again may be what you look at if your not caring about needing G-sync vs Free Sync. You may save again there because Free Sync monitors do not need the G-Sync license and therefore cheaper.


But then you can pick up a 3080/3090 and they will still do well for games and last and not pay the 40 series prices.
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Entertainment & Technology / Re: It's Spec-Me-Up time!
« Last post by Clock'd 0Ne on March 22, 2023, 18:05:09 PM »
I always forget that Novatech is just down the road from me too, so I didn't even consider it! Palicomp really did a good enough job, not as much attention to detail as if you DIY but they did do some cable routing, I could customise the parts I wanted and such. I didn't have to install Windows or anything like that either, so in terms of time saved I feel quids in, as I just don't have the time or inclination for a self-build with the kids taking up time (and actually not even some decent free worktop space to do so either at the moment).
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Entertainment & Technology / Re: It's Spec-Me-Up time!
« Last post by Eagle on March 22, 2023, 13:18:13 PM »
Many thanks for your detailed reply.  A lot to take in (as usual) but I'll get my head around it.  I'll probably tap you for a quick update towards the end of the year.

I'd be more than happy to build a new rig, tbh.  Given that I already have one up and running (this one) I wouldn't have any time pressures or lack of proper internet like I would with a build without a working PC.

Tempting to get a pre-built rig but... cost savings and all that.  Also they never seem to have precisely what I have in mind even with re-specing.  I built this one and it's been rock solid performance-wise and never had a single issue with it, even with Windows - so I trust me to do it again!  ;D 

Novatech is local to me so I might swing by and tell them precisely what I want/need when the time comes and balance their quote against buying components from Scan etc and building it myself.

  :)
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Entertainment & Technology / Re: It's Spec-Me-Up time!
« Last post by Clock'd 0Ne on March 21, 2023, 13:07:26 PM »
I'm not sure tbh but I have my doubts, I mean I'm making a leap from 10 year old architecture which doesn't actually feel sluggish most of the time, its mainly wait times for things to process like zipping/unzipping, loading/data transfers. The difference in the new rig is that things feel super snappy, almost instantaneous so far whatever I'm doing though I've not pushed it yet, but your rig is much newer so I think unless you find yourself thinking "Come on" in your head more often than not, its probably not worth it yet, especially if you already have NVMe and I'm assuming thats DDR4 RAM. If the 1080ti is still doing you fine for games, there's little reason to upgrade that either.

On paper the difference between your CPU and the one I've got now is huge, but I wonder if that really translates into a meaningful performance feel:
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-13600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1800X/4134vs3916

One other thing to consider, a lot of things are looking to be coming down in price more rapidly now supply chain and chip production issues are being resolved post-COVID shenanigans, SSDs, memory, etc are all dropping in price. I'd probably wait until at least the end of the year like Eagle is doing before thinking about it again
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Entertainment & Technology / Re: It's Spec-Me-Up time!
« Last post by knighty on March 21, 2023, 12:18:15 PM »
I keep thinking about upgrading.... but don't think there's that much extra performance to gain?

ryzen 7 1800x
16gig
1080ti
whatever fast nvme drive I bought at the time

I can;t really ne arsed with a full rebuild for neglable returns.... unless you guys think different?
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General Discussion / Re: Recent errors
« Last post by Clock'd 0Ne on March 21, 2023, 11:53:23 AM »
I've taken a clone of the site now, which is running fine, over the coming days I will try upgrading that clone to the latest PHP and SMF versions to see what, if anything, breaks. :ptu:
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