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Title: Cant decide
Post by: Binary Shadow on February 02, 2008, 22:56:17 PM
I cant decide which colour to get.. i love black but i think the silver looks good to and silver wont show any chips etc as much as black.

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/a.woodford/rrzs.jpg) or (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/a.woodford/rrjb.jpg)

Zermatt Silver or Java Black what do you reckon?

Vote Now!!!

In case you were wondering 3.0 TD6 HSE
Title: Re:Cant decide
Post by: DEViANCE on February 02, 2008, 23:00:09 PM
silver definatly.

black looks good, for 10mins after youve washed it.
Title: Cant decide
Post by: Cheule on February 03, 2008, 00:10:53 AM
Liking the silver right now :)
Title: Cant decide
Post by: bear on February 03, 2008, 00:27:14 AM
Silver, black gets hot in the sun.
Title: Re:Cant decide
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 03, 2008, 00:34:06 AM
Black is my preference.
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Post by: Pete on February 03, 2008, 00:45:16 AM
Black every single day on a car that size.
Title: Cant decide
Post by: Binary Shadow on February 03, 2008, 00:57:25 AM
would there be any difference between the 2 when it came to sell them on do you think?
Title: Cant decide
Post by: mr_roll on February 03, 2008, 11:00:07 AM
Quote from: Binary Shadowwould there be any difference between the 2 when it came to sell them on do you think?

Only if the buyer was undecided about the colour.

Personally I love black cars and 4x4s are meant to be mucky anyway!
Title: Re:Cant decide
Post by: Mark on February 03, 2008, 12:16:35 PM
dont like those things at all, SUVs should all be banned from the road. But if I was forced to, Id go for black.

TBH Id forget about one of those and get a Phaeton.

The diesel Rangies are ABSURDLY slow. Any that Ive driven anyway - the jap ones are all far quicker
Title: Cant decide
Post by: Maldonado on February 03, 2008, 12:38:21 PM
Black is more pimp, silver is more defined.
Title: Cant decide
Post by: Poison_UK on February 03, 2008, 12:38:58 PM
Dont like the car at all! But as a colour I would prefer Black :)
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Post by: Eggtastico on February 03, 2008, 12:55:30 PM
silver, even when dirty it looks clean
Title: Cant decide
Post by: Goblin on February 03, 2008, 13:45:46 PM
Black.

Then drive it through a muddy field.

Then never wash it again.
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Post by: Beaker on February 03, 2008, 13:53:32 PM
silver, black will make you look like a Drug Dealer.
Title: Cant decide
Post by: Binary Shadow on February 03, 2008, 14:31:09 PM
a VW Phaeton, no thanks, been put off VWs for life

I need a tow car so the rangie fits the bill
Title: Re:Cant decide
Post by: Mark on February 03, 2008, 14:36:40 PM
Get something with proper torque then, not that girly POS diesel in those things - unless its the new V8 diesel they have less torque than a modern 1.9TDi

The land cruiser amazon is a gutsy yoke, and better off road, and bigger.

Title: Re:Cant decide
Post by: BigSoy on February 03, 2008, 14:39:02 PM
What are you going to be towing?
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Post by: Serious on February 03, 2008, 15:32:05 PM
Quote from: Beakersilver, black will make you look like a Drug Dealer.

He isnt? :shock:

As for needing a car for towing, you would need something a hell of a size to require one of those, unless you need to go cross country get a RWD estate instead.
Title: Cant decide
Post by: Binary Shadow on February 03, 2008, 15:43:02 PM
towing another car on a braked trailer

the 3.0 TD6 produces 390Nm the 4.6 V8 i had before produced 380Nm.. so whats the problem?
Title: Re:Cant decide
Post by: Mark on February 03, 2008, 17:57:35 PM
287 lb/ft through 4x4 wouldnt pull the skin off a sh*t.

A remapped fabia Vrs makes more than that!
Title: Cant decide
Post by: Binary Shadow on February 03, 2008, 18:32:31 PM
like i said the TD6 produces more torque than the old V8 i had and that had more than enough to do what i needed
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Post by: soopahfly on February 03, 2008, 21:33:44 PM
Mines got the following

Engine size = 2.8 Turbo intercooled diesel
Model = 4M40 OHC 4 Cylinder
Fuel system — Distributor type injection pump
Compression ratio — 21:1
Power — 92 kW (125 BHP) at 4000 rpm
Torque — 294 N·m (217 ft·lbf) at 2000 rpm
Title: Cant decide
Post by: Binary Shadow on February 03, 2008, 21:47:52 PM
All i can tell you about the rangie is:

Turbo direct injection
Engine Size 2926 cc
Cylinders 6
0-60 mph 12.7 s
Power Output 174 bhp
Valves 24
Torque 390 Nm    288 lb-ft
Top Speed 111 mph

oh and:

Weight 2545 kg
Title: Re:Cant decide
Post by: Mark on February 04, 2008, 00:23:16 AM
Get a landcruiser amazon, not a wag mobile
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Post by: Binary Shadow on February 04, 2008, 07:38:30 AM
pah no, it offers a touch more power.. from a bigger engine.. so no surprises!

I dont like the look, or the mechanical stuff, prefer a button and a light to a lever on the console.

The interior looks cheap and dated IMO, so no, its the modern luxury from the range rover for me.
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Post by: Mark on February 04, 2008, 10:01:21 AM
I dont know what landcruiser youve been looking at, but they certainly arent dated - they look better inside with the full options pack than any land rover.  The late eighties and early nineties ones do look a bit 80s though.

What mechanical stuff? Theyre far, far more advanced than the land rovers, plus they can go off road not just up a muddy path.

At the end of the day though beauty is in the eye of the footballers wife....
Title: Re:Cant decide
Post by: Binary Shadow on February 04, 2008, 11:23:01 AM
can you link to the one your thinking of?
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Post by: soopahfly on February 04, 2008, 11:32:24 AM
How much are you spending out of interest?
Title: Cant decide
Post by: Binary Shadow on February 04, 2008, 11:37:20 AM
mk3 range rovers can be had for as little as £15.5k im looking at spending £16-17k
Title: Re:Cant decide
Post by: soopahfly on February 04, 2008, 12:30:39 PM
Im with Mark, definatly into Amazon money there.

Title: Cant decide
Post by: Binary Shadow on February 04, 2008, 12:35:17 PM
maybe, also into a lot of other territory if you dont worry about the towing thing, mercs bmws audis.

Thing is you gotta like what your buying, i liked my old range rover and i cant see anything wrong with the new one.
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Post by: soopahfly on February 04, 2008, 12:41:46 PM
As a family, weve owned many of Solihuls finest.  My dads finally sacked off L/R R/R and now gone Jap and not looked back.
Hes got a Hilux and its so much better at towing and offroad. Thats the 3.0L D4D engine.
Title: Cant decide
Post by: Binary Shadow on February 04, 2008, 12:52:59 PM
better seems relative from here, the 4.6 towed what i wanted when i wanted and it felt effortless.. the new one has even more torque, i cant really ask for much more.

off road isnt really an issue since im not likely to risk mashing a £15k+ car into the ground
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Post by: soopahfly on February 04, 2008, 13:56:50 PM
Bit different, but we lug cement, mini diggers, all sorts of construction equipment and a large caravan, and seems to still get an average of 30mpg.
At the end of the day, you pays your money, takes your choice.

But remember, a lot of Defender/Disco parts fit the Rangies but at a much lower cost.
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Post by: Serious on February 04, 2008, 17:24:53 PM
Top Gear shoved a Toyota Hilux pickup on top of a block of flats, then demolished them, it still managed to start up and drive. Although I would put a roof on the back to make it more secure.
Title: Re:Cant decide
Post by: soopahfly on February 04, 2008, 21:12:07 PM
Decision Made
http://www.4x4web.co.uk/4sale.html

QuoteLand Rover Discovery bobtail v8i auto on gas. Castleford
(http://www.4x4web.co.uk/i/280108.jpg)(http://www.4x4web.co.uk/i/280108-2.jpg)
Last of the 300 model. 1999 T reg genuine 53,950 miles. Tax till July 2008, MOT till August 2008. Loads of history and receits. Very solid body/chassis. No rust or rot, waxoiled, profeshional bobtailed. Many extras, full external/internal roll cage. 5inch lift. Mach 5s TSL super swamper tyres, rear Kam diff lock, h/d shafts, arms etc, rose joint steering arms. 2 x new champion 12000ewx winches, twin imobilisers, remote central locking, twin sunroofs, detachable tow bar, side exit exhaust with cherry bomb, the list goes on. superb vechile through out, lovely to drive. Goes anywhere. first to see will buy. £8600
Title: Re:Cant decide
Post by: Mark on February 04, 2008, 21:31:05 PM
Unimog U5000 ftw tbh
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Post by: DEViANCE on February 04, 2008, 21:42:05 PM
dont spend so much money on a big stupid thing like that, theyll probably be banned soon anyway.

you could get a proper car for that sort of money.

what about a 04/05 530d SE ~ £15k, thatll tow anything and you can have some fun when your not towing.
Engine Size     2993 cc
Cylinders    6
0-60 mph    6.9 s
Power Output    214 bhp
Valves    24
Torque    500 Nm    368 lb-ft
Top Speed    152 mph
Economy - 40mpg
Title: Cant decide
Post by: Binary Shadow on February 04, 2008, 21:57:07 PM
because a heavy 4x4 handles a lot of weight on the back better than your standard motor

banned my arse theyd never get away with it tbfh
Title: Re:Cant decide
Post by: DEViANCE on February 04, 2008, 22:01:29 PM
fair enough, what do you tow? must be something big?

that bmw will take 2tonnes easy.
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Post by: Eggtastico on February 04, 2008, 22:03:50 PM
Quote from: DEViANCEfair enough, what do you tow? must be something big?


his ego & mother in law  :mutley:
Title: Cant decide
Post by: Binary Shadow on February 04, 2008, 22:09:02 PM
like i said earlier, a car on a trailer
Title: Re:Cant decide
Post by: Serious on February 05, 2008, 00:57:05 AM
Quote from: soopahflyDecision Made
http://www.4x4web.co.uk/4sale.html

QuoteLand Rover Discovery bobtail v8i auto on gas. Castleford
(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)
Last of the 300 model. 1999 T reg genuine 53,950 miles. Tax till July 2008, MOT till August 2008. Loads of history and receits. Very solid body/chassis. No rust or rot, waxoiled, profeshional bobtailed. Many extras, full external/internal roll cage. 5inch lift. Mach 5s TSL super swamper tyres, rear Kam diff lock, h/d shafts, arms etc, rose joint steering arms. 2 x new champion 12000ewx winches, twin imobilisers, remote central locking, twin sunroofs, detachable tow bar, side exit exhaust with cherry bomb, the list goes on. superb vechile through out, lovely to drive. Goes anywhere. first to see will buy. £8600

Looks damn ugly TBVH. :puke:
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Post by: BigSoy on February 05, 2008, 06:02:22 AM
How long before that thing goes wrong?

Ill give it 3 months tops with that crazy-ass custom (read flaky) sh*t going on at the rear.
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Post by: soopahfly on February 05, 2008, 10:07:15 AM
Quote from: BigSoyHow long before that thing goes wrong?

Ill give it 3 months tops with that crazy-ass custom (read flaky) sh*t going on at the rear.

Or not.

Its not custom, crazy or flaky, its common and just increasing the articulation the vehical already has.  Maybe if you did it to a Micra it would fail but not this.