Sorry, itches my fingers waiting for new car 2morrow 10am!!
i swapped my A3 + some blood and tears soaked fivers for a BMW 120i SE
Heres some piccys..
new car - not actual car - found on web
not much of an upgrade mate tbh
Your going in the wrong direction.
Should have kept the A3
(http://www.sniffpetrol.com/latenews0404_1.jpg)
old car
er..have no idea what i am doing with the piccy here. kind of got it to work. one more
Quote from: rednot much of an upgrade mate tbh
true, but its the four door thing. The A3 has been super, but need the four doors as the seats can only take so much back and forth.
I dont like the new sportsback A3.
thanks
zak
Quote from: soopahflyYour going in the wrong direction.
Should have kept the A3
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hey thats great. also saw this one...
I saw that one, but I felt its a little harsh.
Now, had you bought a Rover.....
Quote from: soopahflyI saw that one, but I felt its a little harsh.
Now, had you bought a Rover.....
Nah, i have no issue with it. Bangle said something either people will like or hate my designs. And i really like the look [invites insults :)]
In any case...rover...Which one where you thinking of... this one?
They are shabby to drive, drove one for about an hour in the Young Driver finals last year, was rather bored by the whole affair. Rear visibility over the shoulder was dreadful too.
Jaimz :rock:
noooooo!
the BMW over the A3??????????
what are you thinking
A3 is a superb choice of car - only thing to do when selling one is to buy another A3 or wait unitl you have enough money for an RS4
Quote from: Davenoooooo!
the BMW over the A3??????????
what are you thinking
A3 is a superb choice of car - only thing to do when selling one is to buy another A3 or wait unitl you have enough money for an RS4
so no fans at all of the E87???I did think about an Audi with 4 doors in terms of A4. But i just felt like it was my dads car or something! :) RS4 - now you talking! Seriously though, i fancied a change from Audis and need for speed wasnt a real criteria. In fact, tbh i dont like having too much torque, it way too tempting at times! I say all this and ill probably regret selling the A3 in a few weeks!
Also, i know there isnt that much legroom in the back of the 120, but its sufficient for kids and the odd lift for adults etc..
So, i think i;ve made the right decision. ill know more after the weekend. I guess one of you will say, told you so! :)
Zak
Your swapping a perfectly good A3 for a overpriced piece of....... :?
You must be insane to be blunt. So how much is it setting you back to drive with a BMW badge?
I still cant believe that you can spend up to Ã,£30K one of those 1 series for the top spec brand new, for that money you might as well have something like a Monaro.
im not a fan of the 1 series tbh, but I havnt ever driven one either. Hope you like it anyway m8
The 1 series and the roadster are the only two bimmers that arent totally ghastly from a design standpoint. It reminds me a bit of the fastback/hatch designs from the early 70s, think Jag and Volvo P1800. :thumbup:
shoulda flogged the A3 and bought a vectra, woulda had tons of cash to hand then
1 series, ergh.
I dont like them. Expensive the buy and cars which seem to me like theyve had no passion in the design or build, like most new cars they are there to get you from A to B.
Quote from: maximusotterThe 1 series and the roadster are the only two bimmers that arent totally ghastly from a design standpoint. It reminds me a bit of the fastback/hatch designs from the early 70s, think Jag and Volvo P1800. :thumbup:
[sticks head above parapet.... :)]
Yes! I like the design of the 1er because there is something retro and modern about them. I had a look at a few 70s car piccys and although idont know enough about there design, there is definetely something retro, perhaps as you suggest the 70s, in their design. Actually the 1er even reminds me of earlier cars e.g. Citroën 11CV Normale.
Zak
In case anyone is following this, here is a quick few thoughts:
Inside:
There is no doubt really, the Audi had a far better interior. Having said that, it did have odd places for things e.g. handbrake under armrest! Also, at the moment it seems i feel more comfortable with the BMW non-sports seats than the Audi sport ones. The interior of the 120i is a bit more plasticky but i knew this from the test drive.
Handling
This is a bit of a hard one. As i had, over time, figured out the max handling of the Audi i kind of knew what it could do (that is, with my driving, i witnessed someone else kindly kicking the living sh*t out of, so i knew it could do more!). With teh 120i, so far it seems i have pushed to that limit and it hasnt seemed like i have reached its limits.
The steering on the 120 is certainly much heavier than the A3. However, i may be totally wrong here, but i think this may be due to something with the A3 being FWD and therefore during turns it kind of flicks back on its own much more. Just a quess though!
Tiptronic v Steptronic.
Without doubt the steptronic is far more intuitive. i was really suprised how it helds the gears uphills without needing to swtich over to gears. I think it is similar to the new DSG (direct something or other gears:)) i tried on the new A3s. Actually to be fair i thought the new manual A3 had a slick shift than my older tiptronic.
Overall, im really pleased with it. The best sum up i could do is that i have moved to a more refined car, but without going down the executive route. In fact, sometimes i cant even tell when the engine is on, so im trying to take out the key and wonder why it wont come out!
Zak
the new dsg is a triple plate clutch system which is flawless. its also a lot faster than the bmw relevant toy.
mate seriously you could have got a lot more car for your cash. i hope you kept the reciept when you wake up an realise its crap
Quote from: redthe new dsg is a triple plate clutch system which is flawless. its also a lot faster than the bmw relevant toy.
mate seriously you could have got a lot more car for your cash. i hope you kept the reciept when you wake up an realise its crap
LOL.. really made me laugh.. :)
Certaintly got teh reciept. So far nothing to make me change it though.
Just out of curiousity what would you suggest for a 4 door non-executive bracket (preferably hatchback) reliable and depreciation favourable car?
No offence meant, but anything specific you dont like about the 1er?
DSG - yup, this was nice. but i havent yet seen any major difference between this and the steptronic. i know it is supposed to be flawless but in comparison to the 1er, i cant say i noticed it that much. having said that the DSG test drive was a while back so perhaps if i drove it for a weekend i would know.
Zak
Quote from: ZakIn fact, sometimes i cant even tell when the engine is on, so im trying to take out the key and wonder why it wont come out!
Zak
It can either be fun or excruciatingly painful to listen to someone restart their engine several times when it hasnt stopped at all :\
Quote from: SeriousQuote from: ZakIn fact, sometimes i cant even tell when the engine is on, so im trying to take out the key and wonder why it wont come out!
Zak
It can either be fun or excruciatingly painful to listen to someone restart their engine several times when it hasnt stopped at all :\
true :) in my case, didnt explain properly. the 1 series has a start/stop button. Something like, push in key, press brake or clutch and press start. Press stop and push key to remove. A bit of a novelty thing really, cant really see why they did it. In fact, i havent tried it, but i assume at a traffic light a passenger can also hit the stop/start button!
Zak
Quote from: ZakJust out of curiousity what would you suggest for a 4 door non-executive bracket (preferably hatchback) reliable and depreciation favourable car?
S reg vauxhall vectra, cheap at less then Ã,£2000, wont drop much further and if it does who cares, and they go on forever.. not to mention an abundance of cheap parts if sommit does go wrong.. plus you end up with loads of cash for toys left over.. win win!
BS, still not realising there is life outside GM.
Quote from: CypherYour swapping a perfectly good A3 for a overpriced piece of....... :?
You must be insane to be blunt. So how much is it setting you back to drive with a BMW badge?
I still cant believe that you can spend up to Ã,£30K one of those 1 series for the top spec brand new, for that money you might as well have something like a Monaro.
Nail on head.
Quote from: soopahflyBS, still not realising there is life outside GM.
Nail on head.
hell I should start the NOH awards :lol:
Quote from: matt5cottQuote from: CypherYour swapping a perfectly good A3 for a overpriced piece of....... :?
You must be insane to be blunt. So how much is it setting you back to drive with a BMW badge?
I still cant believe that you can spend up to Ã,£30K one of those 1 series for the top spec brand new, for that money you might as well have something like a Monaro.
Nail on head.
It might sound incredible, but it was less to do with the badge, but more to do with its style. I also liked the gearbox. I would have happily had an A3 4 door, but it looks as though Audi have just streched the A3 3 door and made it look very odd.
As for the price..erm em..oh damn.. its that time, er..yeah..phone you back - must dash... :)
Zak
Im looking rid of a 99 530d :)
Quote from: BXGTi16VIm looking rid of a 99 530d :)
Ok, swap you for a car that is...
Quote from: soopahfly..going in the wrong direction.
and is
Quote from: Jaimzshabby to drive...:rock:
usually draws the response of..
Quote from: Davenoooooo!...what are you thinking
followed by a few queries regardless mental status..
Quote from: Cypher...You must be insane to be blunt..
and usually rounded off with a few non-mincing of words...
Quote from: mr_roll1 series, ergh.I dont like them....
However, you will receive a reciept as youll need it ...
Quote from: red...when you wake up an realise its crap
:mrgreen:
Quote from: Binary ShadowS reg vauxhall vectra, cheap at less then Ã,£2000, wont drop much further and if it does who cares, and they go on forever.. not to mention an abundance of cheap parts if sommit does go wrong.. plus you end up with loads of cash for toys left over.. win win!
but tbh... that is like seeing your mates new 40" plasma & suggesting they could have got a better deal if theyd gone down to the second hand shop & got a 15" black & white telly for a tenner - cos it aint gonna depreciate as much.
not everyone is a pikey ;)
Quote from: ZakQuote from: redthe new dsg is a triple plate clutch system which is flawless. its also a lot faster than the bmw relevant toy.
mate seriously you could have got a lot more car for your cash. i hope you kept the reciept when you wake up an realise its crap
Just out of curiousity what would you suggest for a 4 door non-executive bracket (preferably hatchback) reliable and depreciation favourable car?
No offence meant, but anything specific you dont like about the 1er?
well from a design point of view, its hideous, the shark esque nose doesnt push my buttons, all the reports say its an overpriced wet fish.
i would suggest either an old civic si, audi sportback (you bough a 1 series over the sportback lol) volkswagon golf 4 door :), or something similar.
all of the shape thing is a personal opinion thing mate, its teh same with musical instruments, it isnt about what i like, but what you like. just try and test them all thoughourly before you buy :)
I like them.