i need a new exhaust for the mot which is on the 2nd of march , i have tried a load of places and 95% of them do not have my car listed
i have a 2005 perodua kelisa 1.0gxi
http://www.perodua-uk.com/Kelisa_anatomy.htm
the above is to give you a rough idea what it looks like (mine has alloys and rear spoiler etc and is all met blue) , local exhaust centres want £288 fitted while the dealer wants £284 + fitting .
now here is the thing , i went to one place called HI-Q which do power-flow exhausts (stainless steel) .
and to my suprise they will do me the full system for £240 all in , talk about bargain or what but why are exhausts that expensive for small cars ?
(only reason i bought it new was the MPG )
The problem is rarity. Most supply off the shelf components fitted by a monkey. So when they have to do one that they might see once a year at best the price goes up. For stainless steel places they probably make to order, so their price difference wont be anywhere near as great.
true but i always thought that a stainless steel exhaust cost twice as much as a standard steel one ? , but i will not have to worry in the next few years for a replacement :)
you should try to find somewhere that supplies garages with parts... I use a place called NPA (http://www.npamotorfactors.co.uk/) but theyre only in the north east iirc...
do you need a full new exhaust or only part of it ?
everything except the cat
get one from a motor factors - I cant see a pattern part being that dear
Quote from: Markget one from a motor factors - I cant see a pattern part being that dear
i have been to every motor factor in a radius of 20 miles , none have them listed and i find it hard to believe that they have stopped making them for a car thats less than 4 years old . but the local dealer has gone under :(
I tend to use Budget. They always need re-fitting slightly so they fit properly, but the last 2 times they have been cheaper than anyone else by a long way. Im not arsed about crawling underneath and twisting the joints a bit when its been cheaper than buyig the parts alone.
I think the reason yours is expensive is that they wont be making too many of them TBH. The Civic I had last needed a full exhaust except for the cat, and it only cost me £70 fitted.
my car should be ready in the morning with a shiny new stainless steel power flow exhaust system , just hope they have made it correctly lol . power flow ? does this meas a sports exhaust ?
powerflow is a franchise that makes generally sh*te exhausts.
Quote from: Markpowerflow is a franchise that makes generally sh*te exhausts.
^Read as adequate, they arent the best but they arent the worst either. Mark tends to be a perfectionist too.
Quote from: SeriousQuote from: Markpowerflow is a franchise that makes generally sh*te exhausts.
^Read as adequate, they arent the best but they arent the worst either. Mark tends to be a perfectionist too.
No in short they are sh*t. Do Powerflow still offer the lifetime warranty on their exhausts? As Ive had many friends abuse the living sh*t out of that due to them making poorly made exhausts...
Quote from: Poison_UKDo Powerflow still offer the lifetime warranty on their exhausts?
i will find out tomorrow morning :whoops: , i hope i am not paying for sh*ty worksmanship . i cannot afford another £240 this year apart from for my computer lol
Quote from: chaotic_ukQuote from: Poison_UKDo Powerflow still offer the lifetime warranty on their exhausts?
i will find out tomorrow morning :whoops: , i hope i am not paying for sh*ty worksmanship . i cannot afford another £240 this year apart from for my computer lol
Out of question. Why that car?
Quote from: Poison_UKOut of question. Why that car?
50mpg average around town and 70+mpg on a run , plus i got it with a £1000 back in 2005 :)
For a run around I guess you couldnt say no. Fair play :)
Quote from: chaotic_ukQuote from: Poison_UKDo Powerflow still offer the lifetime warranty on their exhausts?
i will find out tomorrow morning :whoops: , i hope i am not paying for sh*ty worksmanship . i cannot afford another £240 this year apart from for my computer lol
Website says they do >
http://www.powerflowexhausts.co.uk/technical/fitting/ Stage 7.
Each of our stainless steel systems comes with a lifetime of ownership guarantee. Still worth checking the small print.
I had a couple of friends get them, although nearly eight years back. They are similar to Quickfit and Citylink in operation so there might be good ones and bad ones.
yes its lifetime , but the idiot fitter forgot to refit the sensor for the gasflow on the exhaust . now the air sensor has gone down , they expect me to pay for the part . how do i stand ? , how much do they cost for a universal one ?
Trouble with Powerflow is that they are only as good as the franchise thats running the shop - there are good ones out there that do know what they are doing, but they are vastly outnumbered by the sh*t ones. However, for a perodua kelisa its probably not going to make a great deal of difference :lol:
Quote from: chaotic_ukyes its lifetime , but the idiot fitter forgot to refit the sensor for the gasflow on the exhaust . now the air sensor has gone down , they expect me to pay for the part . how do i stand ? , how much do they cost for a universal one ?
their f**kup, they should carry the can.
Quote from: chaotic_ukyes its lifetime , but the idiot fitter forgot to refit the sensor for the gasflow on the exhaust . now the air sensor has gone down , they expect me to pay for the part . how do i stand ? , how much do they cost for a universal one ?
oxygen sensor?
Quote from: EggtasticoQuote from: chaotic_ukyes its lifetime , but the idiot fitter forgot to refit the sensor for the gasflow on the exhaust . now the air sensor has gone down , they expect me to pay for the part . how do i stand ? , how much do they cost for a universal one ?
their f**kup, they should carry the can.
Agreed.
Quote from: EggtasticoQuote from: chaotic_ukyes its lifetime , but the idiot fitter forgot to refit the sensor for the gasflow on the exhaust . now the air sensor has gone down , they expect me to pay for the part . how do i stand ? , how much do they cost for a universal one ?
their f**kup, they should carry the can.
QFE, as Ive just discovered. 8-)
Quote from: MarkQuote from: chaotic_ukyes its lifetime , but the idiot fitter forgot to refit the sensor for the gasflow on the exhaust . now the air sensor has gone down , they expect me to pay for the part . how do i stand ? , how much do they cost for a universal one ?
oxygen sensor?
yes the oxygen sensor , tried running a search to find a price but live search is crud
universal 4 wires are about £20
lambdapower and places like that do them - even ebay sellers
Quote from: Markuniversal 4 wires are about £20
lambdapower and places like that do them - even ebay sellers
yes the one i have fitted is a four wire one , i thought they would have been more . glad they are not
with they not getting back to me today i bought a universal lamda sensor , about 10 min after i paid for it they rang me and did it free of charge . i now have a spare
It happens that way far too often. Great news that they fixed their gaff for you.
How is the exhaust?
performance is a lot smoother and more responsive , drives like a different car twice its size . it suprises me how much different it is 8-) , now for the down side - in total including the fuel for the repeated trips to the garage it has cost me £263 . but thats is still cheaper than the dealer which wanted £283 just for the exhaust
Did you consider that the full Powerflow system is considered to be a performance upgrade by insurers :P unless this has changed :P
i asked before i had it fitted , its classed as a standard exhaust system (no noisy bigbore boxes fitted) just made of stainless steel
edit : it says powerflow standard on the invoice , should i check with my broker ?
Cost is a phonecall. Price difference will depend on insurer.
Im only thinking if you have an accident where the car will most likely be inspected for insurance purposes, afaik they can void the insurance. I know many people dont tell their insurance company, but im not one of those people :P
i think i will check with them tomorrow/later just to be on the safe side ;) , dont want to ruin my full protected no claims bonus
i asked at the brokers and they rang my insurance company , they asked about it being a powerflow system . they said cause it says powerflow standard its classed as a normal exhaust , just made in stainless steel so no change needed 8-)
Quote from: chaotic_uki asked at the brokers and they rang my insurance company , they asked about it being a powerflow system . they said cause it says powerflow standard its classed as a normal exhaust , just made in stainless steel so no change needed 8-)
Thats good to hear, definately worth covering your own arse :D
you can say that again , they made a note on their system at the brokers also
had to take it back twice cause it was knocking on the rear of the car
Sorted now tho mate?
Quote from: chaotic_ukyou can say that again , they made a note on their system at the brokers also
you may want to get confirmation of that in writing. if you do claim they can easily say you didnt notify them of the change and youd have no proof to back that up