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Title: ive got a feeling, its going to be englands day...
Post by: Badabing on July 01, 2006, 15:25:09 PM
im not overly bothered about the national side - id be happy to see them win, i wouldnt cry if they didnt, but i reckon they could sneak it today and maybe get to the final. Theyre hardly a brilliant side, tactially or techincally, but neither were Greece in Euro 2004...  :!:
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Post by: Pete on July 01, 2006, 16:48:49 PM
Not with an Argie ref by the looks of things.
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Post by: Deaths Head on July 01, 2006, 16:51:51 PM
I get the feeling we are going to lose 1-0 :(
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Post by: Serious on July 01, 2006, 17:29:52 PM
England down to 10 players after Rooney stamps on someones bits...

Quote from: Graham Taylor, BBC Five Live Sport"Im not so certain what he was sent off for. Was it for pushing Ronaldo who became involved quite unecessarily or was it for stamping on Ricardo Carvalhos private parts? I think England are still capable of winning."
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Post by: Mardoni on July 01, 2006, 17:52:33 PM
Ronaldo always pisses me off, whether its playing EPL or an International he is a whining like prick who needs a good hard slap.

I hope he gets loads of sh*t when he is back on UK soil.
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Post by: bear on July 01, 2006, 18:12:23 PM
Quote from: SeriousEngland down to 10 players after Rooney stamps on someones bits...

Quote from: Graham Taylor, BBC Five Live Sport"Im not so certain what he was sent off for. Was it for pushing Ronaldo who became involved quite unecessarily or was it for stamping on Ricardo Carvalhos private parts? I think England are still capable of winning."
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No red card if he had held his temper and not told the referee off.
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Post by: maximusotter on July 01, 2006, 18:47:48 PM
Thats that, then. :P

Dem Portuguese got them quite a keeper. :lol:
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Post by: Eagle on July 01, 2006, 18:51:00 PM
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Man of teh matchos.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Eagle on July 01, 2006, 18:52:06 PM
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Man of teh matchos.  :mrgreen:
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Then again I think its probably more to do with England being wholesale crap at everything they do.

Outclassed, out-gunned and out of the World Cup...  :roll:  :twisted:
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Post by: Pete on July 01, 2006, 18:55:23 PM
Same old england, wtf was Lampard doing taking a penalty.. sorta glad its over tho.

Rooney got himself sent off, now theres a surprise :roll:  


10 v 11 for an hour. Who outclassed who?
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Post by: bear on July 01, 2006, 19:00:12 PM
Quote from: sdpSame old england, wtf was Lampard doing taking a penalty.. sorta glad its over tho.

Rooney got himself sent off, now theres a surprise :roll:  


10 v 11 for an hour. Who outclassed who?

Sorta felt the same Swe - Ger germany did not get any more goals when
sweden went down to ten.
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Post by: Serious on July 01, 2006, 19:06:07 PM
Quote from: Eagle
Quote from: EagleMan of teh matchos.  :mrgreen:
 
Then again I think its probably more to do with England being wholesale crap at everything they do.
 

Not true and you know it, they were good enough until they had to do the penalties.
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Post by: maximusotter on July 01, 2006, 19:06:58 PM
Quote from: sdp10 v 11 for an hour. Who outclassed who?

Portugal.

Playing with a man down isnt the huge hardship some claim it to be, Ive seen it open up the field and tighten up the team more often than creating much of an empty spot on the field.

Portugal took more shots on goal and had more posession time AND they had a better keeper.

England put a wild man onto the pitch, whose temper is legendary. Red Card? No sympathies here.

They played fine, but not as good as Portugal, its the score in the end that counts.

The English fans, at least from what they showed here, were disgusting. :lol: At least the white and red greasepaint went well with their jiggly angry complexions. :lol:
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Post by: Serious on July 01, 2006, 19:13:59 PM
TBH the English manager did make some bad decisions and his overall performance was rubbish. The players had to carry him all the way  :P
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Post by: maximusotter on July 01, 2006, 19:18:51 PM
Quote from: SeriousTBH the English manager did make some bad decisions and his overall performance was rubbish. The players had to carry him all the way  :P

Har, thats one way of putting it.

What would have made the game a little better would have been allowing a fourth substitution when you go into overtime. Both sides were looking pretty rough near the end.
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Post by: Pete on July 01, 2006, 19:38:51 PM
Quote from: maximusotter
Quote from: sdp10 v 11 for an hour. Who outclassed who?

Portugal.

Playing with a man down isnt the huge hardship some claim it to be, Ive seen it open up the field and tighten up the team more often than creating much of an empty spot on the field.

Yeah youre right mate, he was only the (allegedly) best striker England had left -whats an hour without one of the few players we got thatll run at people?


Portugal can hold their heads up high and say they never cheated, dived, bitched at the ref or rolled around on the floor looking for a fk. Best of luck to them :)
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Post by: maximusotter on July 01, 2006, 19:43:51 PM
Quote from: sdpYeah youre right mate, he was only the (allegedly) best striker England had left -whats an hour without one of the few players we got thatll run at people?

Fair. Rooneys a great player and a liability at the same time. :P
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Post by: Pete on July 01, 2006, 19:46:06 PM
Ahs, heres to a England v USA final in 2010  :cheers:
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Post by: maximusotter on July 01, 2006, 19:49:01 PM
Nah, Im hoping for Iceland vs. Nicaragua. :lol: :cheers:
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Post by: BigSoy on July 01, 2006, 19:57:45 PM
We lambaste our players for not showing enough heart, then condemn them for getting sent off showing heart.

Nothing in life can be more contrary than being an England fan.

 :cry:
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Post by: maximusotter on July 01, 2006, 20:00:23 PM
Being a gay American Republican comes close. :lol:
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Post by: Eagle on July 01, 2006, 20:01:36 PM
Quote from: BigSoyWe lambaste our players for not showing enough heart, then condemn them for getting sent off showing heart.
I wouldnt call grinding someones wedding tackle into the dirt showing heart...  :shock:  :?:
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Post by: BigSoy on July 01, 2006, 20:06:14 PM
Quote from: Eagle
Quote from: BigSoyWe lambaste our players for not showing enough heart, then condemn them for getting sent off showing heart.
I wouldnt call grinding someones wedding tackle into the dirt showing heart...  :shock:  :?:

Other than the fact he cant see where hes putting his foot down, and hes just been massacred by the two defenders, absolutely....
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Post by: Eagle on July 01, 2006, 20:10:15 PM
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Nah, hes just a sore loser.

When youre leaning forward, you dont put your foot down behind you to steady yourself...
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Post by: Deaths Head on July 01, 2006, 20:35:19 PM
No, watching it in slow motion he deliberately stepped on his nuts.  Having said that, how was it not a freekick to England?  The 2 portuguese players were all over him, grabbing, pulling yet not a freekick.  Rooney is his own worse enemy.  

Nice clip of Ronaldo putting his head into the back of Rooneys before kick off.  Almost a headbutt.  Looks like Ronaldo was not a popular member of the Man Utd team.  Ferdinand gave him a bit of a push and a mouthful himself after Ronaldo told the ref to send Rooney off.  Ronaldo is an underhanded player and a spoilt brat.  I dont see him being welcomed back to Man Utd, especially not by the fans.  Almost as if he wants to leave and join another club (Real Madrid perhaps? :evil:)

We could have nicked it and didnt.  The players did themselves proud with that 10 man display.  This time I dont think it was Scolari out thinking Sven, more the players were just better at converting penalties.

We did not have sufficient backup with enough strikers on the bench.  If only Defoe had gone.  Surprised me that they didnt just move Joe Cole into that role and save the sub for 5 minutes to see how it well it worked.   You cannot play long ball with Crouch, hes not good enough.

No surprise that Theo was not used at all.  What was he doing there?

We like to do it the hard way...
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Post by: Serious on July 01, 2006, 20:47:17 PM
Blame the Ref! Hes an Argy anyway and they always have it in for England  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Deaths Head on July 01, 2006, 20:56:43 PM
I thought he had a reasonably good match.  He had no choice but to send Rooney off in my opinion.  For the stamp or for the push.  You cant do that in Sepp Blatters Fifa now.
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Post by: brummie on July 01, 2006, 23:49:38 PM
Quote from: EagleNah, hes just a sore loser.

When youre leaning forward, you dont put your foot down behind you to steady yourself...

your obviously the worlds biggest knob if you cant see you nned to put your foot down to stand up  :roll:
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Post by: brummie on July 01, 2006, 23:51:14 PM
Quote from: Deaths HeadI thought he had a reasonably good match.  He had no choice but to send Rooney off in my opinion.  For the stamp or for the push.  You cant do that in Sepp Blatters Fifa now.


what ????  :disappointed: the fact that rooney was fouled 5 secs before the incident isnt obvious eh???
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Post by: Eagle on July 01, 2006, 23:54:06 PM
Quote from: brummie
Quote from: EagleNah, hes just a sore loser.

When youre leaning forward, you dont put your foot down behind you to steady yourself...

your obviously the worlds biggest knob if you cant see you nned to put your foot down to stand up  :roll:
Read what I said.
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Post by: brummie on July 01, 2006, 23:56:12 PM
i did read a wrong statement,   :roll:
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Post by: Mardoni on July 01, 2006, 23:57:02 PM
You need to watch the challenge again tbh, he was trying to drive himself forward not stand still.

Besides which, given the level of cheating from every other team in the competition I say good luck to the bloke. Especially if it helps slow the natural reproduction of a nation of cheating, greasy tards.
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Post by: Deaths Head on July 02, 2006, 01:26:29 AM
Quote from: brummie
Quote from: Deaths HeadI thought he had a reasonably good match.  He had no choice but to send Rooney off in my opinion.  For the stamp or for the push.  You cant do that in Sepp Blatters Fifa now.


what ????  :disappointed: the fact that rooney was fouled 5 secs before the incident isnt obvious eh???

Brummie, I really wish you would read my posts.  This one specifically.  In the first paragraph I question why a freekick wasnt given to him because the two Portuguese players were all over him like a rash.  He was fouled by them but the freekick was not given and Rooney did what he did.  

Rooney had to be sent off for stepping on Carvalho deliberately.  He had to be sent off for violent conduct against Ronaldo.  It was a small push but the way FIFA have the refs dishing out cards at the moment the only decision would be a red card.  Beckhams kick in France 98 wasnt vicious yet he got sent off.
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Post by: Dave on July 02, 2006, 04:34:23 AM
blimey - rooney deserved a free kick before that incident even took place tbh.. ref was asleep - dont know what game some of you peps were watching but you need new glasses - certainly didnt appear to be deliberate stamping - the push on ronaldo was silly however though tbh.. ronaldo is rooneys team mate at Man U FFS & rooney appeared to be (rightly) telling him to stay out of it - still figo gets a yellow card for a headbutt in the holland game - rooney gets a red card for pusing his mate back :roll: not exactly consistent - he deserved a yellow at best - though if the ref had been on the ball the incident wouldnt have happened anyway.

twas fecking stupid putting an argie ref in anyway - the team we were playing were basically a bunch of spaniards as are the argies + the argies have a bit of history with us anyway so hardly going to be an unbiased game - might as well get an american catholic from boston to ref next time we play Ireland at anything :roll:

oh good to see the opposition wasnt diving in anyway too - bunch of mincers the lot of em
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Post by: FuMaN on July 02, 2006, 09:15:46 AM
Well I cant believe the FA paid Sven so much money, hes easily made Ã,£20m over the past 5 years with nothing to show. Hell probably be best remembered for the 5-1 Germany win and his fling with Ulrika.
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Post by: bear on July 02, 2006, 13:30:47 PM
Quote from: Daveblimey - rooney deserved a free kick before that incident even took place tbh.. ref was asleep - dont know what game some of you peps were watching but you need new glasses - certainly didnt appear to be deliberate stamping - the push on ronaldo was silly however though tbh.. ronaldo is rooneys team mate at Man U FFS & rooney appeared to be (rightly) telling him to stay out of it - still figo gets a yellow card for a headbutt in the holland game - rooney gets a red card for pusing his mate back :roll: not exactly consistent - he deserved a yellow at best - though if the ref had been on the ball the incident wouldnt have happened anyway.

twas fecking stupid putting an argie ref in anyway - the team we were playing were basically a bunch of spaniards as are the argies + the argies have a bit of history with us anyway so hardly going to be an unbiased game - might as well get an american catholic from boston to ref next time we play Ireland at anything :roll:

oh good to see the opposition wasnt diving in anyway too - bunch of mincers the lot of em


Tuff luck, Swedens Ljungberg shouldve had a penalty just second before Lucic got his red card that he did not deserve.

But Rooney wouldve only gotten a yellow card if had shut his mouth and behaved.
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Post by: brummie on July 02, 2006, 13:53:27 PM
Rooney did nowt wrong, he was fouled. Ref wasnt even gonna give anything till ronaldo come over and rooney pushed him.

Figo head butts some one he gets a yellow. Rooney pushes someone he gets a red. Whole insident doesnt even come close to any sweedish descision TBH

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ronaldo deserves anything he gets on his return to manchester
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Post by: BigSoy on July 02, 2006, 14:27:24 PM
Quote from: brummieronaldo deserves anything he gets on his return to manchester

Would very much surprise me if there was a return to Manchester for Ronaldo. Hell be in a Real shirt next season.
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Post by: Deaths Head on July 02, 2006, 14:34:55 PM
Brummie, I thought the same until I saw the replay and watched his foot.  Unfortunately, he definitely did it deliberately :(

If you dont believe me, watch this (http://www.fluffyfunk.net/files/Rooney_Stamp.avi).  Me moves his left foot backwards with intent.  The headbutt by Ronaldo, the Ref is right there with the ball.  How did he not see that?!?
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Post by: brummie on July 02, 2006, 16:47:31 PM
did it or not the ref didnt see it and sent him off for pushing ronaldo.

Yet figo got a yellow for head butting another player. No way was it a red card and ronaldo deserves everything he gets on his return to england.
Its not the first time hes caused trouble either, he does it all the time.
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Post by: Deaths Head on July 02, 2006, 21:00:30 PM
The ref never saw the Figo incident.  If he had then it would have been instant red.  He should have left it unpunished so Fifa could retro-actively give Figo a 4 match ban!

I dont understand your first sentence.  The ref only decided to brandish a card when he pushed Ronaldo, but its not been made clear what the card was actually given for.  It may have been the push or the stamp.
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Post by: brummie on July 02, 2006, 21:07:54 PM
Quote from: Deaths HeadThe ref never saw the Figo incident.  If he had then it would have been instant red.  He should have left it unpunished so Fifa could retro-actively give Figo a 4 match ban!

I dont understand your first sentence.  The ref only decided to brandish a card when he pushed Ronaldo, but its not been made clear what the card was actually given for.  It may have been the push or the stamp.

sven spoke to the ref after the match accordoing to his news conference. The ref said rooney hit ronaldo and deserved the red card.
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Post by: bear on July 02, 2006, 21:34:50 PM
It is possible that Ronaldo knew pretty much how to tuch a nerve in Rooney so he would make that misstake.

Rooney need to learn how to hold his temper, wasnt there a count somewhere of how many times he told a referee to fock off.
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Post by: DEViANCE on July 03, 2006, 13:35:59 PM
Quote from: bearRooney need to learn how to hold his temper, wasnt there a count somewhere of how many times he told a referee to fock off.

yeah that was quite a while ago though, he has improved alot since then.
i think he would less of a player if i didnt play with the passion he does, i also think he didnt know much about the stamp and should have got a free kick for being fouled before then anyway.