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Title: Locking skewers?
Post by: funkychicken9000 on September 23, 2006, 15:31:56 PM
Like these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRAND-NEW-KF-Performance-Skewer-Set-HUP270-Silver_W0QQitemZ220029188817QQihZ012QQcategoryZ58089QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem).

Any good? Im pretty paranoid about my open pros getting pilfered this term, as my bike may be outside a lot.  Worth investing in a set, or should I just put up with the extra time involved in yet another bike lock?

[edit] Id probably only need one for the front wheel as most of the time my cable lock goes through the back when i lock it to stuff.  And I really dont fancy having any of these flimsy alu skewers holding the back on with my riding style :shock:
Title: Locking skewers?
Post by: maximusotter on September 23, 2006, 15:38:29 PM
Good idea? Sure, QR anything is stoopit on something you commute on. Alternately lock like the Otter: get one of those cables with the loops on either end, noose it through the front wheel, then lock the rear wheel, within the rear triangle to a pole, incorporating the loose end of the cabe, with a compact u-lock. Thieves will roll their eyes and move on.

(http://www.sheldonbrown.com/images/locktechnique1.jpg) (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html)
Title: Re:Locking skewers?
Post by: Serious on September 23, 2006, 15:53:08 PM
I have a thick cable and padlock I bought from Netto for a few quid when they had them in on special a couple of years ago, perfectly adequate for locking up my bike and probably any other one.

(http://www.antarctic-one.com/images/tek3/bike2.JPG)
Title: Re:Locking skewers?
Post by: funkychicken9000 on September 23, 2006, 16:05:35 PM
I CBA to carry around any more cables.  One is enough, my bike may be utilitarian but its still gonna be sleek, dammit  :mrgreen:
Title: Locking skewers?
Post by: maximusotter on September 23, 2006, 16:07:05 PM
^^^gimme 5 seconds with a $35 bolt cutter^^^

Ulocks require a grinding tool, as leveraging the minis is next to impossible. Its easy to conceal a bolt cutter beneath a coat, but throwing sparks for 5-10 minutes at a public bike rack is sure to raise eyebrows. :lol:

Perhaps Ive just got big city mentality, but Ive not had a bike stolen ever that was properly locked. Not even had signs of an attempt. The thieves just move along. Sometimes Ill even leave a ulock at the destination, a cheaper one, and carry my good one. Ill use the cheapie to lock the front wheel to frame or pole in leiu of a cable and the good one within the rear triangle.
Title: Re:Locking skewers?
Post by: maximusotter on September 23, 2006, 16:11:09 PM
Quote from: funkychicken9000I CBA to carry around any more cables.  One is enough, my bike may be utilitarian but its still gonna be sleek, dammit  :mrgreen:

Then a Krypto or OnGuard mini and a locking front skewer. Though Im just talking about an additional little cable for the front wheel, and for use in those cases where you cant find a thin pole and need to use it to get around a bigger object, which isnt as secure but better than nothing.



If you dont have fenders, just pop off the front wheel and lock it with the rear as illustrated in the photo.
Title: Re:Locking skewers?
Post by: Serious on September 23, 2006, 16:12:49 PM
Quote from: maximusotter^^^gimme 5 seconds with a $35 bolt cutter^^^

Ulocks require a grinding tool, as leveraging the minis is next to impossible. Its easy to conceal a bolt cutter beneath a coat, but throwing sparks for 5-10 minutes at a public bike rack is sure to raise eyebrows. :lol:

If your lock is one of the older round key ones then its possible to do open it with a bit of rolled up paper or a pen tube, then again whod want to steal a bie in that condition? ^_^

/puts claws back in
Title: Re:Locking skewers?
Post by: maximusotter on September 23, 2006, 16:16:51 PM
Quote from: Serious
Quote from: maximusotter^^^gimme 5 seconds with a $35 bolt cutter^^^

Ulocks require a grinding tool, as leveraging the minis is next to impossible. Its easy to conceal a bolt cutter beneath a coat, but throwing sparks for 5-10 minutes at a public bike rack is sure to raise eyebrows. :lol:

If your lock is one of the older round key ones then its possible to do open it with a bit of rolled up paper or a pen tube, then again whod want to steal a bie in that condition? ^_^

/puts claws back in

Thats a WWI era Mead Ranger with internal lugwork. Worth quite a bit. ;)
Title: Re:Locking skewers?
Post by: soopahfly on September 23, 2006, 18:50:26 PM
http://www.stif.co.uk/gear/select_options.asp?productid=3140

Like these?
Title: Locking skewers?
Post by: maximusotter on September 23, 2006, 19:01:36 PM
Those skewers are expensive and can easily be defeated, especially in a college town where the thieves are more savvy. Better than nothing. Cable costs 1/4 as much and is super handy, lets say, if you meet a friend on the way and need to lock two bikes instead of one. Takes no place at all in the bottom of my enormous messenger bag. The braided ones are better than the simple spiral winds.
Title: Re:Locking skewers?
Post by: funkychicken9000 on September 23, 2006, 21:41:10 PM
Quote from: soopahflyhttp://www.stif.co.uk/gear/select_options.asp?productid=3140

Like these?
You must be havin a larf, Thats a silly price.  I can get the same set off ebay for half that.

Title: Re:Locking skewers?
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on September 24, 2006, 09:16:56 AM
I use the cable Max has a piccie of, it came with my krypto long shackle D lock, does the job :) I just feed it between the brake cables on the handlebars, loop it back and lock it to the lock for when im riding, its out of the way and does the job.

When parked up I can lasso the front QR wheel on my bike to the frame, then theres enough slack on the cable for me to feed it through my back wheel if needed, but as I lock my bike using the back wheel, I just shove the free end on the lock, again... like max explained :)
Title: Re:Locking skewers?
Post by: soopahfly on September 24, 2006, 12:18:46 PM
Im not saying you have to get them from the shop I work.
We are very expensive, and I still get 99% of my bits from a shop in sheffield.  Its more of an example of what you can get.  KF bits are naff tbh, but also be aware that there are two sets of those skewers.  One that can be released with a normal 6mm allen key and a ones that use a slightly irregular looking allen key type thing.
Title: Re:Locking skewers?
Post by: maximusotter on September 24, 2006, 15:12:28 PM
Quote from: soopahflyIm not saying you have to get them from the shop I work.
We are very expensive, and I still get 99% of my bits from a shop in sheffield.  Its more of an example of what you can get.  KF bits are naff tbh, but also be aware that there are two sets of those skewers.  One that can be released with a normal 6mm allen key and a ones that use a slightly irregular looking allen key type thing.

Or using a flat file and a locking plier, you can open either in 90 seconds. :lol:
Title: Re:Locking skewers?
Post by: soopahfly on September 24, 2006, 15:27:49 PM
true.
Title: Re:Locking skewers?
Post by: funkychicken9000 on September 29, 2006, 13:30:52 PM
Got a set of steel axle Trans-X ones at the LBS, mounted up the front and it looks like itll do the job.  Anyone after a seatpost and rear one?