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Title: New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 29, 2009, 14:33:12 PM
Well my Clio has been officially written off today after an incident on Tuesday that meant I had to kerb it to avoid a car that pulled out in front of me - the subframe is all warped.

So, now Im looking for something to replace it with. Low budget (sub 1k ideally), but I know there are bargains out there as Ive seen a few come and go but keep missing them.

Im also wondering if its worth doing a HP on something better, but what do you guys think to that given the current car climate?
Title: Re:New car
Post by: matt5cott on January 29, 2009, 14:47:34 PM
Im guessing in the current climate you can haggle the hell out of anyone, buyers market for sure.

Whats good for a K though? who knows, but I do know spending a lot of time cocking about on pistonheads sales adds is a good idea :)

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Eggtastico on January 29, 2009, 14:54:36 PM
your now out of pocket.
next time hit the car & claim of their insurance & feign whiplash
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 29, 2009, 15:11:29 PM
Yeah that was my first port of call along with autotrader. I keep getting tempted to pick up another cheap MX-5.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 29, 2009, 15:12:15 PM
Quote from: Eggtasticoyour now out of pocket.
next time hit the car & claim of their insurance & feign whiplash

They didnt pull out of a sideroad, they pulled out from the left lane into my lane right in front of me, giving me no braking distance at all.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Quixoticish on January 29, 2009, 16:11:55 PM
Quote from: Eggtasticoyour now out of pocket.
next time hit the car & claim of their insurance & feign whiplash

Why feign whiplash? Im sick of this, if youre not part of the solution youre part of the problem. If youre genuinely injured then of course, make a claim. Youll probably have a small fortune in medical bills that you need to cover anyway. But if youre not injured why lie just to scam money out of the system? Youre just f**king everything up for everyone and making it a damn sight harder for people who are trying to get back medical expenses to make a legitimate claim.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: soopahfly on January 29, 2009, 17:33:05 PM
http://retrorides.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=FSW&action=display&thread=53881

Tbh./

http://retrorides.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=FSW&action=display&thread=53597
Title: New car
Post by: bear on January 29, 2009, 18:01:17 PM
Something like this :)

http://www.motors.co.uk/VW-Eos-Diesel
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Eggtastico on January 29, 2009, 18:08:17 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0Ne
Quote from: Eggtasticoyour now out of pocket.
next time hit the car & claim of their insurance & feign whiplash

They didnt pull out of a sideroad, they pulled out from the left lane into my lane right in front of me, giving me no braking distance at all.

yes.. so you should have hit them.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Eggtastico on January 29, 2009, 18:24:54 PM
Quote from: Chris H
Quote from: Eggtasticoyour now out of pocket.
next time hit the car & claim of their insurance & feign whiplash

Why feign whiplash? Im sick of this, if youre not part of the solution youre part of the problem. If youre genuinely injured then of course, make a claim. Youll probably have a small fortune in medical bills that you need to cover anyway. But if youre not injured why lie just to scam money out of the system? Youre just f**king everything up for everyone and making it a damn sight harder for people who are trying to get back medical expenses to make a legitimate claim.

because thats now how the system works. People pay so much in, they want to take some out.
have a go at the foreigners & un-insured, they are the reason premiums are so high & a large chunk of the premium goes into that pot that pays out when people have to claim off their own insurance.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 29, 2009, 19:54:25 PM
Quote from: Eggtastico
Quote from: Clockd 0Ne
Quote from: Eggtasticoyour now out of pocket.
next time hit the car & claim of their insurance & feign whiplash

They didnt pull out of a sideroad, they pulled out from the left lane into my lane right in front of me, giving me no braking distance at all.

yes.. so you should have hit them.

If you hit someone from behind its always your fault in the eyes of the insurance companies. I was better off risking the kerb I thought, having thought I might not have done that kind of damage.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: DEViANCE on January 29, 2009, 20:34:24 PM
There are a lot of half decent cars for around a grand.

Depends what your after really. Small, Sporty, Saloon, Hatch, Petrol, Diesel etc?

Some I noticed on ebay:

Pug 306
Rover 400 /45
MGF
Mk3 Golf
Pug 406
Ford Puma (these are meant to be a fun drive)
VW Passat
Volvo 440 / s70
Rover 200


Title: Re:New car
Post by: Bacon on January 29, 2009, 20:54:54 PM
Fiesta Zetec do it! :P or get that B5 Audi tbh, and dont forget to haggle :P
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Eggtastico on January 29, 2009, 21:16:23 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0Ne
Quote from: Eggtastico
Quote from: Clockd 0Ne
Quote from: Eggtasticoyour now out of pocket.
next time hit the car & claim of their insurance & feign whiplash

They didnt pull out of a sideroad, they pulled out from the left lane into my lane right in front of me, giving me no braking distance at all.

yes.. so you should have hit them.

If you hit someone from behind its always your fault in the eyes of the insurance companies. I was better off risking the kerb I thought, having thought I might not have done that kind of damage.

Myth
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Serious on January 29, 2009, 21:40:32 PM
Quote from: Eggtastico
Quote from: Clockd 0Ne
Quote from: Eggtastico
Quote from: Clockd 0Ne
Quote from: Eggtasticoyour now out of pocket.
next time hit the car & claim of their insurance & feign whiplash

They didnt pull out of a sideroad, they pulled out from the left lane into my lane right in front of me, giving me no braking distance at all.

yes.. so you should have hit them.

If you hit someone from behind its always your fault in the eyes of the insurance companies. I was better off risking the kerb I thought, having thought I might not have done that kind of damage.

Myth

Hitting someone from behind when they have pulled out in front of you isnt going to go their way. If there is no room to pass take the chance and go straight into them. The damage from the curb means either you lose your no claims anyway or the value of the car. Hit them instead, use the excuse there was no time or room and you have at least a 50/50 chance they will have to pay for it.

There have been a number of cases where people have reversed into other cars on side roads and then claimed, it wasnt taken as a problem until someone did it to an unmarked police car with a video camera.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 29, 2009, 21:56:32 PM
Maybe. Maybe Im just a nicer person than to think - despite the guy being utter womens bits for pulling out - that I should ram him and his car, possibly causing damage, pain, suffering, injuring their family if they are in the car, etc. when I could avoid hitting anything instead.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: mr_roll on January 30, 2009, 07:05:00 AM
306TD is always a good option. :)
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Beaker on January 30, 2009, 07:22:50 AM
Well youve learnt your lesson with renaults yes?

For ~£1000 Id be looking at Vauxhall/Ford and similar range.  Can pick up 2000 Veccy for that much now.  
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Serious on January 30, 2009, 09:00:47 AM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeMaybe. Maybe Im just a nicer person than to think - despite the guy being utter womens bits for pulling out - that I should ram him and his car, possibly causing damage, pain, suffering, injuring their family if they are in the car, etc. when I could avoid hitting anything instead.

Let me put it another way, woman driving in her car, another car pulls out. She swerves to avoid, mounts the pavement and kills three schoolkids.

Theyre in a car and should be fastened in, personal damage will be minimal and they can claim on their insurance for it.

It was their fault, but if youre a willing and happy to pay for it when you werent responsible.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: matt5cott on January 30, 2009, 13:20:46 PM
Not much you can do with the 0.1 second you have to react though, hardly time for debate  -)  you just do what you thinks best given the scenario.

Nige did what he thought was best at the time, maybe he was wrong, maybe he was right, the only person who knows is Nige.






With this said the debate around hitting someone from behind is an interesting one, but I dont think Nige has a time machine :mutley:
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 30, 2009, 13:49:31 PM
Indeed.

Even with retrospectovision, Im still rather happy to see that foul French piece of sh*t off the road. If only all Renaults had kerb magnets...

So far choices have been whittled down to Audi TDis, BMW TDs and Fords (along with the occasional glimpse of an MX-5, but I keep slapping my wrists and remembering the economy of them). Im going to have to be quick/lucky to catch bargain under 1.5k though.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: soopahfly on January 30, 2009, 14:04:12 PM
Sod economy.  Have some fun!  Plenty of time for economy when your old and karting offspring about.
/me proud to have 2 sub 20mpg cars.  Keeping the economy going all on my own me :D
Title: Re:New car
Post by: matt5cott on January 30, 2009, 14:06:07 PM
Quote from: soopahfly/me proud to have 2 sub 20mpg cars.  Keeping the economy going all on my own me :D

What a sad immature deluded view you have.









Along with me, rock that optimax  :rock:
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 30, 2009, 17:27:30 PM
Id agree with you Nath if I wasnt doing around 700 miles a week some weeks.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Serious on January 30, 2009, 18:33:53 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeIndeed.

Even with retrospectovision, Im still rather happy to see that foul French piece of sh*t off the road. If only all Renaults had kerb magnets...

Every time the latest Renault Megane remember when advert has been on I have automatically shouted at the screen - not a chance in hell!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTthvxpzNDM
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Bacon on January 30, 2009, 19:15:12 PM
We had a Renault 25 2.2 i think it was a GTX or something, to much the same situation it got hit by a car coming out of a side road, chassis got bent, car was written off, 2 months later we got a phonecall asking stuff about the car, it seems someone bought the car and had put it back on the road....
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 01, 2009, 19:31:29 PM
I have just bought this (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/advert+search/N-240,Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236/advert.action?R=200905327815510&distance=9&postcode=S74&channel=CARS&make=&model=&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=1996&vehicleRegLetter=P).

Now to hope its not a lemon.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: DEViANCE on February 01, 2009, 19:36:14 PM
good cars, only common problems on those is the front suspension but its not that expensive to fix.

Not a good sign to see RS badges and after market alloys, could mean its been thrashed but those engine take it well if they are warm and oil changed regularly.
Title: New car
Post by: filbert on February 01, 2009, 19:51:29 PM
err did you see this bit "noisy engine"
Title: New car
Post by: Binary Shadow on February 01, 2009, 19:55:47 PM
hmm 1.9 TDI RS4?
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 01, 2009, 20:15:52 PM
I dont think its been thrashed, the owner certainly wasnt boy racer type and he reckons the guy that had it before him lovingly serviced it too, so should be fine. The RS badges will be coming off. Speaking of which, whats the best way to remove them?

The guy is polish or something, he put "noisy engine" and meant "quiet engine", its quiet as a mouse.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: DEViANCE on February 01, 2009, 20:20:36 PM
hair drier to get the badges off and then white spirit to remove the residue, make sure you polish it after the white spirit though.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: soopahfly on February 01, 2009, 20:30:13 PM
Looks tidy, but whats the 0-60 :D
Title: New car
Post by: Binary Shadow on February 01, 2009, 20:43:10 PM
lol no boy racer owners but they fitted RS4 badges? thats a bit contradictory
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 01, 2009, 20:52:17 PM
The guy was a mid thirties and didnt seem to have boy racer profile at all, I think the badges were probably fitted by a previous owner. 0-60 is probably a few seconds slower than my MX-5.
Title: New car
Post by: Mark on February 01, 2009, 21:17:31 PM
Quote from: filberterr did you see this bit "noisy engine"

Just saw that myself - hope its not knock knock big ends noisy !

Scrub that, just saw post above

Get it on Vagcom ASAP to see if it has been clocked. 95% of A4s have been clocked.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 01, 2009, 21:25:51 PM
What the what?

How do I vagcom it? SHould I just take it to an Audi garage to check?
Title: Re:New car
Post by: DEViANCE on February 01, 2009, 21:26:41 PM
about a tenner on ebay and then use a laptop to talk to your car.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Mark on February 01, 2009, 21:28:04 PM
Not too up on what works with which model in that range, but something like this

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAG-COM-Serial-VW-Audi-Car-Diagnostic-Code-Reader-OBD-2_W0QQitemZ180324098783QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment?hash=item180324098783&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1689|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1308

Its a handy lead to have in any event
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 01, 2009, 21:45:25 PM
I dont have a laptop to hook it up to though sadly :(
Title: Re:New car
Post by: knighty on February 01, 2009, 21:52:24 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeI dont have a laptop to hook it up to though sadly :(

what about the one under your bed for when you cant sleep ?  or the one in the bathroom for when youre on the loo ?  or the one you keep in the car incase you breakdown ?

tell me you have a laptop in the car ?  everyone keeps one in the car.... right ?
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Bacon on February 01, 2009, 22:07:59 PM
Best car for your money, no doubt :D Its Audi its an old B5, nice looking for no money :D
Title: New car
Post by: Cypher on February 01, 2009, 23:28:35 PM
Quote from: filberterr did you see this bit "noisy engine"

Those TDIs get very noisy if thrashed, they also sound horrible in the cold.  Mine fortunately a 55k still sounds reasonabily quiet.

Again, nice little buy there.

VAGCOMs also save you £50 diagnosis fees when you get the odd fault light.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: mr_roll on February 01, 2009, 23:37:53 PM
Damn nige, I was going to msg you about my car... I just got my renewal price through and its blooming expensive.

I might just take my beemer off the road for 3 months or so... this will save me a shed load
Title: Re:New car
Post by: knighty on February 01, 2009, 23:46:53 PM
Quote from: mr_rollDamn nige, I was going to msg you about my car... I just got my renewal price through and its blooming expensive.
I might just take my beemer off the road for 3 months or so... this will save me a shed load

sell it back to me!  I miss it :(

(seriously)
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 02, 2009, 00:35:24 AM
Ahhhh, damn Andy. :lol: Well if this car turns out to have some issues I might be back about the Beemer :drama:
Title: Re:New car
Post by: knighty on February 02, 2009, 00:48:56 AM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeAhhhh, damn Andy. :lol: Well if this car turns out to have some issues I might be back about the Beemer :drama:

too late, Im first in the queue... I sold it to him so I got some sort of magical overpowering first dibs aproval :-p
Title: New car
Post by: Jaimz on February 02, 2009, 07:37:44 AM
Haha vagcom sounds like some sort of cunny computer.

Looks quite tidy though lol at you buying from an ad that says it has a noisy engine.

Jaimz :rock:
Title: New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 02, 2009, 16:15:55 PM
Quote from: JaimzHaha vagcom sounds like some sort of cunny computer.

Tis what I thought too!

Having now driven the car for a bit back from Sheffield, I have to say its only noisy when Mr Turbo kicks in :yarr:

Very smooth, very relaxing drive. Its the first car Ive had that doesnt make me feel like I want to floor it everywhere. Nice and comfortable and seems to be a good car so far!

The only thing I would say is that I noticed a few times when the turbo didnt seem to kick in or seemed underpowered, but that might have just been me or how I was driving, Im not sure since its my first diesel car. On the whole though very happy. I just need to drop in a CD player now. Is it worth getting an official Audi one off ebay?
Title: New car
Post by: DEViANCE on February 02, 2009, 17:18:04 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0Ne
Quote from: JaimzHaha vagcom sounds like some sort of cunny computer.

The only thing I would say is that I noticed a few times when the turbo didnt seem to kick in or seemed underpowered, but that might have just been me or how I was driving, Im not sure since its my first diesel car. On the whole though very happy. I just need to drop in a CD player now. Is it worth getting an official Audi one off ebay?

Itll feel like a brand new car with a new MAF sensor.

Look for the Audi Concert or Symphony on ebay they are on there all the time.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 02, 2009, 17:54:58 PM
So you think its worth switching the MAF sensor anyway?

Oh and which is better, the Concert or Symphony HUs? Cheers Devi
Title: Re:New car
Post by: DEViANCE on February 02, 2009, 17:59:41 PM
Symphony is double DIN and thats what is in mine, its the best OE head unit Ive ever had.

Concert is just single DIN and the basic one I think.

So symphony if your dash will take it easy enough.

here is mine:
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s81/robdav99/audi/DSC00437.jpg)


Flat spots before the turbo kicks in is almost always the MAF sensor.

I just looked on Eurocarparts and its £51 when you give them your old one.

made a huge difference on mine.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Cypher on February 02, 2009, 18:26:31 PM
Oh you can so easily drive them smoothly, but it is just as satisfying to put your foot down at times.

The torque in these engines is rediculous.  Try it up an incline.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 02, 2009, 18:30:15 PM
I might sort out the MAF soon then.

Mine isnt as speccd as yours:

(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9067/02022009235ic8.th.jpg) (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02022009235ic8.jpg)

Looks like single DIN only, so concert. Mine should take any single DIN like the newer 2006 HUs Im guessing.
Title: New car
Post by: Jaimz on February 02, 2009, 18:32:05 PM
Should take any single DIN headunit with the right adapter, assuming it is ISO from the car end of things...

Jaimz :rock:
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 02, 2009, 18:54:26 PM
I asked a seller if my car would take this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUDI-A4-CONCERT-CD-RDS-RADIO-PLAYER-NO-RES-AUCTION_W0QQitemZ200303331741QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Audio_TV_Electronics_In_Car_Entertainment_GPS_In_Car_Audio_Players_PP?hash=item200303331741&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318) and all he replied was "no".

How helpful! Surely it should just plug straight in, there cant be much difference.
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Mark on February 02, 2009, 21:14:40 PM
If youre spending over £100 - dont get a manufacturers HU !
Title: New car
Post by: knighty on February 02, 2009, 21:36:15 PM
dont want to sound like a twat, but if you havnt friven any diesels or turbo diesels before it might justtake a bit of getting used to.... knowing when to drop a gear, or when to hold one so you can shoot out the other side of a corner etc...
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 02, 2009, 21:48:18 PM
Ill see how it goes on my long driving over the weekend, Ive only been out for about an hour in it. Ill play around on my long trip down south this Friday :)

Im thinking Ill just go to Halfrauds and get this fitted tomorrow, once Ive sussed if I have a BOSE speaker setup in the car or not.
https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/HalfordsProductDetailsLiteView?storeId=10001&langId=-1&productId=500617&TB_iframe=true&TB_C_ID=productdetails&TB_C_TITLE=Pioneer+DEH-2000MP+CD%2FMP3+Player&width=800
Title: New car
Post by: Jaimz on February 02, 2009, 21:56:39 PM
Good shout with Pioneer, decent output and plenty of settings to tweak it to your liking.

Jaimz :rock:
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Mark on February 02, 2009, 23:16:19 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeIll see how it goes on my long driving over the weekend, Ive only been out for about an hour in it. Ill play around on my long trip down south this Friday :)

Im thinking Ill just go to Halfrauds and get this fitted tomorrow, once Ive sussed if I have a BOSE speaker setup in the car or not.
https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/HalfordsProductDetailsLiteView?storeId=10001&langId=-1&productId=500617&TB_iframe=true&TB_C_ID=productdetails&TB_C_TITLE=Pioneer+DEH-2000MP+CD%2FMP3+Player&width=800

Do it yourself - it will take maybe 15 minutes as long as the car is ISO
Title: New car
Post by: Jaimz on February 03, 2009, 11:35:37 AM
Depends if it is just a case of release the current one with pins or if you have to rip the whole dash out to get at it..

Jaimz :rock:
Title: Re:New car
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 03, 2009, 11:43:23 AM
I went for this in the end, and let them fit it cos I cant be arsed with the hassle for £20. They did a good job and hooked the iPod connector through to the glove compartment too. Very satisfied!

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8092/03022009237cf3.th.jpg) (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03022009237cf3.jpg)

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_504019_langId_-1_categoryId_165474