Title: New Car - Want something green
Post by: Sam on March 31, 2006, 11:09:31 AM
Post by: Sam on March 31, 2006, 11:09:31 AM
Need to get a new car next week as my fleet car goes back on Monday. I want something as green as possible - ie as high MPG as is realistic. What cars have silly MPG but are still reasonably priced? Looking for a small hatch really like a Corsa or Almera size.
Title: Re:New Car - Want something green
Post by: Cypher on March 31, 2006, 11:19:27 AM
Post by: Cypher on March 31, 2006, 11:19:27 AM
Something along the line of a diesel Polo perhaps? First small car that comes to mind when I think high mpg.
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new_cars/polo
The 1.4 TDi 75PS of the current model for example....
Urban 47.9mpg - 5.9l/100km
Extra-urban 68.9mpg - 4.1l/100km
Combined 60.1mpg - 4.7l/100km
Even the 1.9 Tdi 130PS does just as well.... with which you get a very decent 0-60 of 9.2secs.
Urban 39.8mpg - 7.1l/100km
Extra-urban 62.8mpg - 4.5l/100km
Combined 52.3mpg - 5.4l/100km
Here is a usefull tool to help you narrow down your choices a bit....
http://www.whatcar.co.uk/car-search.aspx
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new_cars/polo
The 1.4 TDi 75PS of the current model for example....
Urban 47.9mpg - 5.9l/100km
Extra-urban 68.9mpg - 4.1l/100km
Combined 60.1mpg - 4.7l/100km
Even the 1.9 Tdi 130PS does just as well.... with which you get a very decent 0-60 of 9.2secs.
Urban 39.8mpg - 7.1l/100km
Extra-urban 62.8mpg - 4.5l/100km
Combined 52.3mpg - 5.4l/100km
Here is a usefull tool to help you narrow down your choices a bit....
http://www.whatcar.co.uk/car-search.aspx
Title: Re:New Car - Want something green
Post by: dogbert on March 31, 2006, 11:24:07 AM
Post by: dogbert on March 31, 2006, 11:24:07 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4252359.stm
Without going totally electric...these are some of the greenest.
Toyota Prius 1.5 petrol-electric hybrid
Smart car 0.7 petrol
Citroen C2 1.4 diesel
Next level...
Fiat Panda 1.2 petrol
Ford Ka 1.3 petrol
VW Golf 1.9 TDI diesel
Jaguar X-type 2.0 diesel saloon
Without going totally electric...these are some of the greenest.
Toyota Prius 1.5 petrol-electric hybrid
Smart car 0.7 petrol
Citroen C2 1.4 diesel
Next level...
Fiat Panda 1.2 petrol
Ford Ka 1.3 petrol
VW Golf 1.9 TDI diesel
Jaguar X-type 2.0 diesel saloon
Title: Re:New Car - Want something green
Post by: Cypher on March 31, 2006, 11:28:30 AM
Post by: Cypher on March 31, 2006, 11:28:30 AM
My only problem with that list is the prius. Its not as green as it should be for what it is and a joke of a solution to this being green issue with a starting price tag of Ã,£17K.
Title: New Car - Want something green
Post by: Christopher Monkey on March 31, 2006, 11:30:54 AM
Post by: Christopher Monkey on March 31, 2006, 11:30:54 AM
2ltDiesel TwinTurbo Jag..... same mpg as the a number of _green_ cars as i recall
Title: Re:New Car - Want something green
Post by: brummie on March 31, 2006, 11:32:53 AM
Post by: brummie on March 31, 2006, 11:32:53 AM
I nearly fired up FF and looked for Green coloured cars :whoops:
Something less than 1.0 the Aygo or something similar?/
Something less than 1.0 the Aygo or something similar?/
Title: New Car - Want something green
Post by: Binary Shadow on March 31, 2006, 12:15:52 PM
Post by: Binary Shadow on March 31, 2006, 12:15:52 PM
the 1.4 3 Cyl TDI polo.. yeah high MPG but hell to drive and TOTALLY gutless. i know as i have one for work :(
Title: New Car - Want something green
Post by: Sam on March 31, 2006, 12:39:21 PM
Post by: Sam on March 31, 2006, 12:39:21 PM
I couldnt care less about speed or looks. Cars are a money pit as far as I am concerned.
Those ones you posted dogbert have zero car tax too now.
Those ones you posted dogbert have zero car tax too now.
Title: Re:New Car - Want something green
Post by: soopahfly on March 31, 2006, 12:48:02 PM
Post by: soopahfly on March 31, 2006, 12:48:02 PM
Diesel Lupo,
Toyota Yaris D-4D.
Apparently, the D-4D is supposed to be one of the most economical in its class.
Toyota Yaris D-4D.
Apparently, the D-4D is supposed to be one of the most economical in its class.
Title: New Car - Want something green
Post by: Sam on March 31, 2006, 12:48:23 PM
Post by: Sam on March 31, 2006, 12:48:23 PM
Have you seen the MPG on a 1.4 Diesel C2? Thats unbelievable.
Title: Re:New Car - Want something green
Post by: soopahfly on March 31, 2006, 12:52:59 PM
Post by: soopahfly on March 31, 2006, 12:52:59 PM
But it will fall apart if you hit a small pothole.
I also seem to recall the yaris has 20k service intervals too.
But dont hold me to that.
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road_tests/index.htm?id=52
I also seem to recall the yaris has 20k service intervals too.
But dont hold me to that.
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road_tests/index.htm?id=52
Title: New Car - Want something green
Post by: Sam on March 31, 2006, 12:57:31 PM
Post by: Sam on March 31, 2006, 12:57:31 PM
More expensive tho. I could get a s/h c2 for Ã,£5000.
Title: Re:New Car - Want something green
Post by: soopahfly on March 31, 2006, 13:00:40 PM
Post by: soopahfly on March 31, 2006, 13:00:40 PM
That is a good point.
Lynz was looking for a D-4D Yaris, but they are very hard to get for a good price. The closest she got was a 52 plate, 11k miles for Ã,£8k (T3 Spec)
Bank wouldnt give her the money though, so shes waiting to get the Justy back and selling it.
Lynz was looking for a D-4D Yaris, but they are very hard to get for a good price. The closest she got was a 52 plate, 11k miles for Ã,£8k (T3 Spec)
Bank wouldnt give her the money though, so shes waiting to get the Justy back and selling it.
Title: New Car - Want something green
Post by: Binary Shadow on March 31, 2006, 13:47:39 PM
Post by: Binary Shadow on March 31, 2006, 13:47:39 PM
Quote from: SamI couldnt care less about speed or looks. Cars are a money pit as far as I am concerned.
Those ones you posted dogbert have zero car tax too now.
the polo is damn near undriveable its so bad lol
Title: Re:New Car - Want something green
Post by: Ceathreamhnan on March 31, 2006, 13:58:35 PM
Post by: Ceathreamhnan on March 31, 2006, 13:58:35 PM
Since the cost of ownership is your main concern, you want to consider the potential for depreciation rather more than the initial buying cost imho; that would account for certain cars being more expensive s/h.
Title: Re:New Car - Want something green
Post by: Mark on March 31, 2006, 14:31:32 PM
Post by: Mark on March 31, 2006, 14:31:32 PM
If youre looking for high mpg - especially city mpg dont believe the lies that VAG tell - their engines do good mpg on paper because top gear is ludicrously high. Around town theyre rubbish compared to most other diesels. Top gear is virtually unusable unless youre going at a decent speed.
The new C1 diesel is going to do over 100mpg - but it might be a bit on the small side.
The new C1 diesel is going to do over 100mpg - but it might be a bit on the small side.
Title: New Car - Want something green
Post by: maximusotter on March 31, 2006, 14:58:28 PM
Post by: maximusotter on March 31, 2006, 14:58:28 PM
Im only overseas every few years, so Im not as familiar with the market as I should be, but if its as I remember: want an "adult feeling" tiny car? Go polo/lupo. Want utter reliability, and great resale: Toyota Yaris. We have a VW, and its great, but Toyotas build quality when it comes to long term reliability blows European makers out of the water, at the expense of a little panache.
Title: Re:New Car - Want something green
Post by: Cypher on March 31, 2006, 18:12:58 PM
Post by: Cypher on March 31, 2006, 18:12:58 PM
Aye the VW build quality is very good these days, and the inside of the car is a nice place to be with quality materials inside. The inside is more important to me than outside looks.
I spend a lot time in a new VW Caddy Van which practially is the same cabin s the polo/golf and it is a very nice place to be.
They are not the bargain of the century cars but they are very good value these days and they hold their value well.
I spend a lot time in a new VW Caddy Van which practially is the same cabin s the polo/golf and it is a very nice place to be.
They are not the bargain of the century cars but they are very good value these days and they hold their value well.
Title: Re:New Car - Want something green
Post by: DEViANCE on March 31, 2006, 18:23:04 PM
Post by: DEViANCE on March 31, 2006, 18:23:04 PM
Rover 25 2.0litre Diesel.
115hp so pretty nippy
51mpg
Tax Band A
Low Insurance
Get a nice one for subÃ,£3000 so not much money to lose
some very nice trim levels available, all the extras etc.
Example (http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW/CARS_popup.asp?modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&make=ROVER&model=25&min_pr=75&max_pr=&mileage=6&agerange=&postcode=ll115ap&miles=1500&max_records=200&source=0&photo=1&sort=3&ukcarsearch_full=SEARCH&start=2&distance=74&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200611227425679)
115hp so pretty nippy
51mpg
Tax Band A
Low Insurance
Get a nice one for subÃ,£3000 so not much money to lose
some very nice trim levels available, all the extras etc.
Example (http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW/CARS_popup.asp?modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&make=ROVER&model=25&min_pr=75&max_pr=&mileage=6&agerange=&postcode=ll115ap&miles=1500&max_records=200&source=0&photo=1&sort=3&ukcarsearch_full=SEARCH&start=2&distance=74&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200611227425679)
Title: Re:New Car - Want something green
Post by: soopahfly on March 31, 2006, 18:27:45 PM
Post by: soopahfly on March 31, 2006, 18:27:45 PM
Can you haggle for a flat cap, terrier, stick and tartan blanket in the price too?
Title: New Car - Want something green
Post by: maximusotter on March 31, 2006, 18:28:39 PM
Post by: maximusotter on March 31, 2006, 18:28:39 PM
If you do go VW, dont even think about having any work done at a dealership. VW sellers are evil the world over. :lol:
Title: Re:New Car - Want something green
Post by: Cypher on March 31, 2006, 18:32:09 PM
Post by: Cypher on March 31, 2006, 18:32:09 PM
Quote from: soopahflyCan you haggle for a flat cap, terrier, stick and tartan blanket in the price too?
PMSL :lol: :mutley:
Title: Re:New Car - Want something green
Post by: DEViANCE on March 31, 2006, 18:35:04 PM
Post by: DEViANCE on March 31, 2006, 18:35:04 PM
Quote from: soopahflyCan you haggle for a flat cap, terrier, stick and tartan blanket in the price too?
