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Title: ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Chris on January 06, 2009, 10:13:13 AM
Got knocked off my sodding push bike on the way to work this morning, and the dozy f**ker who did it didnt even have the courtesy to stop and see if I was OK.  Bastard.  It was on a roundabout, I was turning right, and some git either didnt see me or thought he could go through me.  I had my lights on and was wearing a High-Vis jacket so it wasnt like I was in stealth mode or something.

(http://www.chrisund123.co.uk/pics/bikefubar.jpg)

Hit the back wheel, which buckled it and seized up...  Ironically this acted as a brake and slowed me down sufficiently for it not to hurt too bad when I hit the dirt... No real injuries to speak of, just my pride really - although my hand hurts where I stuck it out to break my fall.

The 5-O will be round later to get a statement, aparently.  Wont hold my breath for them to catch him though, as I didnt get the number plate while I was lying in the middle of the road.
Title: ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: knighty on January 06, 2009, 11:01:54 AM
its bead enough hitting you, but not stopping = major twattishness !

also... yeah the police are pretty much a waste of space tbh :(
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: neXus on January 06, 2009, 11:15:03 AM
Ahh crap, sorry to here that, Far to many people still stuff bikes. To many think there are cars, vans and trucks and nothing else.

I rememember at college I was riding to it and at a crossing at a roundabout which was in front of it. I got waved on by some women in a suit who was doing make up as well. so I ride into the road heading to the centre bit before looking left to cross the other lane and WHACK, she hit me and I got nice scrapes in clothes and bike. I had to ask to go home, explained to teacher as my clothes were ripped.
She thought I had gone as she was not paying attention, I got a "sorry I did not see you, thought you had gone already" from her, I got up moved off road, said I was ok, she got a few beeps from cars behind and said "sorry I need to go" and drove off.

Glad your ok though, shame about the bike damage, that quite bad, your lucky.
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: zpyder on January 06, 2009, 13:26:00 PM
That sucks :( No witnesses or anything either?

Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Eggtastico on January 06, 2009, 14:11:31 PM
with the amount of accidents you seem to chew through, maybe its time you stayed off the road - or at lest learn how to use one correctly.
cant be down to bad luck with all the car & bike crashes youve had.
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: soopahfly on January 06, 2009, 15:48:01 PM
Thats Binary Shadow.  Chris seems to be OK IIRC.
Title: ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Chris on January 06, 2009, 16:18:30 PM
Was gonna say, Ive not had an accident since some idiot woman crashed into my Daewoo Nexia while it was parked and I wasnt in the car... and that was in 2005!
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Chris on January 06, 2009, 16:19:50 PM
Quote from: zpyderThat sucks :( No witnesses or anything either?


Must have been a few, but as I got up pretty much straight away (didnt fancy laying in the middle of a roundabout for too long) I guess everyone decided I was OK and didnt need to stop.
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: DEViANCE on January 06, 2009, 17:15:52 PM
gutted, you alright?

you notice the car/colour?

chances are theyll use that roundabout everymorning at about the same time. Get the Number plate and/or vigilante their ass.
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Quixoticish on January 06, 2009, 17:41:06 PM
Any chance that there was any CCTV in the area they can use to track down the driver?
Title: ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Chris on January 06, 2009, 17:47:14 PM
Well I actually went down the station to report it, so its in their hands now really. I got the colour/size of the car, but not the reg as I was busy laying in the middle of the road.  I go the same way every day, but at differing times so I doubt I will see the car again, but I will keep my eyes peeled for sure.

I Dont think theres any CCTV on the route either, so I wont hold any hopes of the driver getting caught, but you never know.
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: zpyder on January 06, 2009, 17:52:30 PM
It does remind me about when I nearly plowed into a group of cyclists on a dual carriageway roundabout in town. There was a group of them, maybe a dozen. The first few entered the roundabout when it was clear, which was fair enough. It was when the rest followed like sheep that the problems started, I slammed on my brakes and ended up staring at 2 cyclists inches from my front bumper, with a small group about to cycle into the side of my car.

Im all for cycling, but there are some places that they shouldnt go, busy roundabouts being one of them :(

Part of the issue here I guess though is that we have an unusually large number of foreign/english languages schools, and lots of asian students. As a result they are all used to cycling, but not used to the amount of cars or the highway code, and never wear helmets :(
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Serious on January 07, 2009, 01:21:27 AM
Quote from: zpyderIm all for cycling, but there are some places that they shouldnt go, busy roundabouts being one of them :(

And where should they go? Perhaps we should ban dangerous and polluting cars from using roundabouts?

Yes, I know the problem of people coming to the country and just going on a bike, we have them around here too. Some of them rate suicidal.
Title: ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Poison_UK on January 07, 2009, 04:18:06 AM
Glad your okay and in one piece.

Cyclists in Newcastle are crazy, walking from the City Centre to Heaton and one of them comes into the Pedestrian side of the path and full on clips me in the back, he never stopped or anything just kept on riding.
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Beaker on January 07, 2009, 09:03:14 AM
Quote from: zpyderIt does remind me about when I nearly plowed into a group of cyclists on a dual carriageway roundabout in town. There was a group of them, maybe a dozen. The first few entered the roundabout when it was clear, which was fair enough. It was when the rest followed like sheep that the problems started, I slammed on my brakes and ended up staring at 2 cyclists inches from my front bumper, with a small group about to cycle into the side of my car.

God save us from Cycle Club Dickheads, who seem to be in the majority these days.  When I was in my teens I was told that riding in the tha pack is fine, but if youre on a busy road then 2-abreast is the most you should be doing.  These days it seems that there are a bunch of pricks all in a pack that think they can take over the entire road, even when its a 60 limit.  Never mind the danger they are putting themselves in.  I got stuck behind a pack the other day heading up to Windermere, after about 10 minutes making sure i was visible, and that they knew I wanted to get past I gave up and just overtook them on a bit I knew they would all get covered in my spray.  
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Eggtastico on January 07, 2009, 09:14:27 AM
Quote from: zpyderIt does remind me about when I nearly plowed into a group of cyclists on a dual carriageway roundabout in town. There was a group of them, maybe a dozen. The first few entered the roundabout when it was clear, which was fair enough. It was when the rest followed like sheep that the problems started, I slammed on my brakes and ended up staring at 2 cyclists inches from my front bumper, with a small group about to cycle into the side of my car.

Im all for cycling, but there are some places that they shouldnt go, busy roundabouts being one of them :(

Part of the issue here I guess though is that we have an unusually large number of foreign/english languages schools, and lots of asian students. As a result they are all used to cycling, but not used to the amount of cars or the highway code, and never wear helmets :(

should have kept going. cyclists are the biggests c**ts on the road who think they are a rule to themselves.
hope you gave them a blast of the horn & a load of 4 letter abuse.
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Quixoticish on January 07, 2009, 09:53:57 AM
Quote from: Eggtasticoshould have kept going. cyclists are the biggests c**ts on the road who think they are a rule to themselves.
hope you gave them a blast of the horn & a load of 4 letter abuse.

Said the frying pan to the kettle, get away blackbreech!
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: zpyder on January 07, 2009, 10:11:43 AM
Quote from: Serious
Quote from: zpyderIm all for cycling, but there are some places that they shouldnt go, busy roundabouts being one of them :(

And where should they go? Perhaps we should ban dangerous and polluting cars from using roundabouts?

In the instance of roundabouts on busy roads where cars are entering and exiting at 30+ mph, and the cyclists are doing maybe 5-10mph, I would much rather they dismounted (or not) and crossed the road away from the roundabout. It is safer all round. Its what I do if Im on a bike at such a roundabout, as generally in a car you cant see the other side until youre almost there. The issue is made much worse at night when some of these people are not wearing any high vis gear or lights.

Other than roundabouts pretty much the only places I dont think they should go are the same kind of places that apply to scooters, motorways and the such. I know scooters are allowed on dual carriageways, but I dont think they should be either.

And to turn it on the head, the one place bikes arent allowed, which I think they should be, is the pavement on busy roads, when it is clear to see whether any pedestrians are out and no one is going to drive out of their driveway...
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Serious on January 07, 2009, 14:01:56 PM
If you cant see that far ahead you shouldnt be going that fast, your fault. Cars should also give proper consideration to other road users.

Yes, I know that many bike users act like mongs, but just as many, if not more, car drivers do.
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: zpyder on January 07, 2009, 15:12:25 PM
Bah, you know what I meant. Many roundabouts are so shaped and sized etc that unless you go at 5mph it is impossible to be able to look everywhere at once, especially dual or triple-lane roundabouts. Generally around here they occur in non-urban areas where you do not expect to see a bike in the middle of the roundabout moving at walking pace whilst cars are entering it at a considerably faster pace :(

And before you say "you should go at 5mph then", if that were so, the roads in question would be gridlocked given the speed limit and volume of traffic. At least then I guess the cyclists should be a bit safer I guess...
Title: ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: mr_roll on January 07, 2009, 20:34:16 PM
Hope you get some luck and catch the guy that knocked you off your bike!


Quote from: Poison_UKGlad your okay and in one piece.

Cyclists in Newcastle are crazy, walking from the City Centre to Heaton and one of them comes into the Pedestrian side of the path and full on clips me in the back, he never stopped or anything just kept on riding.

Yeah sorry, hope it didnt hurt to much.


j/k wasnt me. :)

Title: ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Serious on January 07, 2009, 21:42:46 PM
Quote from: mr_rollHope you get some luck and catch the guy that knocked you off your bike!


Quote from: Poison_UKGlad your okay and in one piece.

Cyclists in Newcastle are crazy, walking from the City Centre to Heaton and one of them comes into the Pedestrian side of the path and full on clips me in the back, he never stopped or anything just kept on riding.

Yeah sorry, hope it did hurt to much.


Yes, it really was me :twisted: :P


Fixed it for ya ;)
Title: ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: mr_roll on January 07, 2009, 21:47:40 PM
Quote from: Serious
Quote from: mr_rollHope you get some luck and catch the guy that knocked you off your bike!


Quote from: Poison_UKGlad your okay and in one piece.

Cyclists in Newcastle are crazy, walking from the City Centre to Heaton and one of them comes into the Pedestrian side of the path and full on clips me in the back, he never stopped or anything just kept on riding.

Yeah sorry, hope it did hurt to much.


Yes, it really was me :twisted: :P


Fixed it for ya ;)

Thought you would :p
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Walrusbonzo on January 07, 2009, 22:55:18 PM
Quote from: SeriousIf you cant see that far ahead you shouldnt be going that fast, your fault. Cars should also give proper consideration to other road users.

Yes, I know that many bike users act like mongs, but just as many, if not more, car drivers do.

I quite agree, being an avid fan of driving, but now also cycling, I firmly believe that its really down to the drivers to give more consideration to others.

Ive yet to come across a crazy cyclist in all my years of driving, but Ive come across many crazy drivers!
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: mr_roll on January 08, 2009, 00:04:29 AM
Quote from: Walrusbonzo
Quote from: SeriousIf you cant see that far ahead you shouldnt be going that fast, your fault. Cars should also give proper consideration to other road users.

Yes, I know that many bike users act like mongs, but just as many, if not more, car drivers do.

I quite agree, being an avid fan of driving, but now also cycling, I firmly believe that its really down to the drivers to give more consideration to others.

Ive yet to come across a crazy cyclist in all my years of driving, but Ive come across many crazy drivers!

Ive came accross my fair share of both. I think cyclists should take more care of the road laws. I know its quick to jump up onto kerbs and over the zebra crossing or what ever, but it is dangerous.

Ive probably had more run ins with crazy car drivers however, but they are more noticeable when they drive crazy as they do occupy more of the road and they can do a great more damage than a bike.

I think everyone should do the CBT, once you come away from that you REALLY do look for more bikes and I think that the CBT does make people a better driver, or atleast a more aware driver.
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Quixoticish on January 08, 2009, 09:25:19 AM
Quote from: Walrusbonzo
Quote from: SeriousIf you cant see that far ahead you shouldnt be going that fast, your fault. Cars should also give proper consideration to other road users.

Yes, I know that many bike users act like mongs, but just as many, if not more, car drivers do.

I quite agree, being an avid fan of driving, but now also cycling, I firmly believe that its really down to the drivers to give more consideration to others.

Ive yet to come across a crazy cyclist in all my years of driving, but Ive come across many crazy drivers!

Come to York, the place is full of them at every hour of the day. No lights or reflective jackets in the middle of the night, riding three abreast, riding in the middle of the road, hopping across crossings when the lights are green for cars, riding in the middle of the road down a narrow lane and holding up a huge queue of traffic rather than pulling over and letting people past, you name it, they all seem to do it around here. Dont get me wrong, there are plenty of idiot drivers, in fact Id go so far as to say 50% of the people on the roads at the moment are completely incompetent or mentally unstable and shouldnt be trusted with a car. But you do get plenty of idiot cyclists in places as well.
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: zpyder on January 08, 2009, 13:41:27 PM
Ive come across both, but more car drivers I will admit, whether thats just to do with the fact more drivers are on the road I dont know.

The roundabout incident was the single worst "almost" accident of my driving career. generally the only other things Ive seen down here with cyclists other than non-reflective stuff and no helmet, is a disregard for the highway code when it comes to crossings and lights, where as a pedestrian Ive nearly been hit by cyclists ignoring the red light, cycling in no-cycling urban areas, and have witnessed a cyclist cross a junction when his direction had a red light :(

I also agree about doing the cbt, and/or cycling proficiency, just to make people more aware!
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Deaths Head on January 10, 2009, 02:06:38 AM
Quote from: zpyderIt does remind me about when I nearly plowed into a group of cyclists on a dual carriageway roundabout in town. There was a group of them, maybe a dozen. The first few entered the roundabout when it was clear, which was fair enough. It was when the rest followed like sheep that the problems started, I slammed on my brakes and ended up staring at 2 cyclists inches from my front bumper, with a small group about to cycle into the side of my car.

Im all for cycling, but there are some places that they shouldnt go, busy roundabouts being one of them :(

Part of the issue here I guess though is that we have an unusually large number of foreign/english languages schools, and lots of asian students. As a result they are all used to cycling, but not used to the amount of cars or the highway code, and never wear helmets :(
If where they come from is anything like Japan then everything stops for pedestrians/clyclists crossing a road (when the green man is showing/bird cheeping sound).  If they are foreign and in their country thats the norm then they need to learn very quickly that its not the same in the UK.
In japan the pedestrian is king at crossings.  Its a real shock to the system.
Title: Re:ow Ow OWW... Hit and Run :(
Post by: Binary Shadow on January 15, 2009, 23:18:55 PM
Ouch :( that sucks, at least your ok.

Quote from: soopahflyThats Binary Shadow.  Chris seems to be OK IIRC.
Pah it was usually some n00b running into me and iv not had anything for ages now, aside from dropping my bike but thats expected im a learner :P