Those of you in the know... will know that sound.
That is the sound of me stripping the back wheel off, including the rim tape, and removing the remnants of the spoke that snapped.
The noise I complained about in another thread (clanky clanky) appears to have been the same problem.
Decided to degunk my wheel a bit and have a ganders see... revealed that the spoke had infact snapped and was pinging against the broken bit still left in the hub.
But... after stripping the wheel down, I checked the website of my LBS. Its closed on sundays. Arse... so now I have a bike in bits, and im gonna have to walk the 3.9 miles into work now. Grrr..I hate walking.
Bloody arse. Decided may as well go and pay for the rear wheel to be trued up anyway at the same time, as no doubt its gone all wavy from dealing with my weight for the last 2 weeks on bumpy roads.
Quote from: M3ta7h3adThose of you in the know... will know that sound.
That is the sound of me stripping the back wheel off, including the rim tape, and removing the remnants of the spoke that snapped.
The noise I complained about in another thread (clanky clanky) appears to have been the same problem.
Decided to degunk my wheel a bit and have a ganders see... revealed that the spoke had infact snapped and was pinging against the broken bit still left in the hub.
But... after stripping the wheel down, I checked the website of my LBS. Its closed on sundays. Arse... so now I have a bike in bits, and im gonna have to walk the 3.9 miles into work now. Grrr..I hate walking.
Bloody arse. Decided may as well go and pay for the rear wheel to be trued up anyway at the same time, as no doubt its gone all wavy from dealing with my weight for the last 2 weeks on bumpy roads.
How patronising!
You and a select few must spend more time actually talking about bikes, than you do riding!
Quote from: BadabingQuote from: M3ta7h3adThose of you in the know... will know that sound.
That is the sound of me stripping the back wheel off, including the rim tape, and removing the remnants of the spoke that snapped.
The noise I complained about in another thread (clanky clanky) appears to have been the same problem.
Decided to degunk my wheel a bit and have a ganders see... revealed that the spoke had infact snapped and was pinging against the broken bit still left in the hub.
But... after stripping the wheel down, I checked the website of my LBS. Its closed on sundays. Arse... so now I have a bike in bits, and im gonna have to walk the 3.9 miles into work now. Grrr..I hate walking.
Bloody arse. Decided may as well go and pay for the rear wheel to be trued up anyway at the same time, as no doubt its gone all wavy from dealing with my weight for the last 2 weeks on bumpy roads.
How patronising!
You and a select few must spend more time actually talking about bikes, than you do riding!
/me slaps third mimosa out of Dans hand. :lol:
I dont know what about that post is patronizing. :shrug:
M3, get some spokes on monday, throw a couple in your bag with a wrench, as nothings more studly than replacing them on the roadside. :lol:
Er... it is a turn of phrase. Sorry Sir Heffalump shant offend ye in future.
The fact it was a new sound to me and that I specifically mention that I made a thread over it because I had no idea what it was related to seems to indicate that I am one of the ones "not" in the know. So if im being patronising I would be doing myself a disservice.
Oh and for your info: I use my bike on a daily basis to get to and from work and do my shopping, and go to the gym. Im not a person who fanwahs around riding here there and everywhere for the sake of it, or rides down a mountain because hes bored. Its a car to me... I use it for utility purposes.
If you have another break soon, thats the call to totally respoke the wheel, as theyve all been stressed equally and will eventually pop. Chance is always that it was just one that was poorly seated in the hub flange. It *did* break at the flange, right?
So it might be an opportunity to learn how to wheel build. :lol: :w00t:
aye broke right at the flange. the other bit of it fell out and ive lost it.
Got a feeling Ill need to take a whole one to the bike shop to gauge the size.
So rather than undoing it myself all my damn screwdrivers are just a touch too small for the thing, think I may just take the wheel along and get it trued, and the spoke replaced :) let the bike shop faff around with it :D I need it for work and to go to the shops! so cant faff around myself, unless well I have it "semi-working" and then build a rear wheel myself with some crimbo money :)
Shame 48 hole stuff is so hard to source. :/ If you do build, do try and use double butted spokes, as they do great for clydes, tending to flex instead of break, as the middle of the spoke is skinnier. :ptu: If you can find it, the Alex Adventurer (http://www.speedgoat.com/product.asp?part=37860&cat=260&brand=9) is one of the strongest rims you can get for a sane price.
(http://www.speedgoat.com/images/products/RM7513-t.jpg)
Looking at rims and costs now, seems to get hold of a 6spd shimano hub is rare and it costs a bit.
It is alright just servicing the one I already have aye? no rule saying spokes and rims have to be matched to a specific hub is there?
gawd no, unless youre going for $6/per bladed time trial spokes. :lol: Six speed is cheep as chips, just find one used. ;-)
Is it screw on, or a cassette? If the former, its even superer easier to find one for a couple coppers.
Quote from: maximusottergawd no, unless youre going for $6/per bladed time trial spokes. :lol: Six speed is cheep as chips, just find one used. ;-)
Is it screw on, or a cassette? If the former, its even superer easier to find one for a couple coppers.
Cassette I believe. :)
Problem with six speed cassettes is that theyre pretty rare these days. Unlike the standard that fits 7(with a spacer) to 10 speed cogs, the six speed freehub had threading on the outside of the body, the last cog serving as a lockring. If you ebay-it, you might find some really nice quality numbers in this format from the late 80s. Age matters little, but quality and spacing does. Makes sure its 135mm spaced (Im assuming thats what your rear spacing is) which is mtb and hybrid spacing.
Alternately get a rear hub with screw on threads and a 6 speed freewheel. If you shop around, this can be rediculously cheap. You can even ask on Usenet, some kind person might have what you need in their bucket of parts and give it to you. They do make 6 speed freewheels with modern ramps and pins, so the shifting will be great, and being thicker, those cogs will last long. Finally, when you sicken of gears, such a hub will take a track cog and you can go fixed gear. :lol:
Heres what a modern 6spd freewheel looks like, and goes for $20 over here:
(http://www.nashbar.com/nashbar_photos/medium/NS-FW6.gif)
That above picture looks like my one. just mines brown :D and doesnt have a notchy wheel on.
And... Stupid spoke number 2.
Sitting here, I look over at my wheel and go "grrr stupid wheel" and another one goes "PING!" and yes... another spoke bites the dust. 90degrees to the original broken one. but on the damn chainwheely bit side this time so I cant get the rest of it out of the flangey bit.
Does that require a rebuild??
Gotta love cheap-ass, slack as a box of badgers machine built wheels. :D
Buy cheap, buy twice and all that.
Quote from: soopahflyGotta love cheap-ass, slack as a box of badgers machine built wheels. :D
Buy cheap, buy twice and all that.
lol in fairness Ive been riding on the same rear wheel for the last year and a half.
Thats reasonably good going, Id have expected the bike to drop to bits before that.
Nut wrong with machine build wheels. You can often get wheel for less than the price of hub and rim, not to mention you save $75 in labor and spokes. You just gotta give them some love is all. Destress and seat the ends into the flanges, then retrue. An old crankarm or the handle on a 12" crescent wrench is good for this. Then they usually need truing again and almost always another 1/2 turn of more tension.
Im not saying anything is wrong with machine built wheels, but on the particular bike that MH has, the wheels probably cost the same as a normal spoke on its own would cost.
Mavic make some great machine built wheels, but their hubs let them down. And machine built wheels are fine for the majority of riders.
Im looking at getting some mavic 321s on Kings in the new year, hand built by our award winning wheelbuilder :D
Beaut!
Well as I didnt have money and in fact two spokes broke... one on the drive side, and I didnt have a vice around for me to undo the stuck locknut on it... I gave my wheel to my parents and asked them to sort it.
Took it to an LBS. Got told the axle was bent but it was okay, "ive just managed to bend it back into shape".
Now... considering it was bent, but I certainly never noticed it, even when faffing around with it. Its come back with what appears to be a huge kink in it now. It visibly wobbles around when I spin it, and catches because of it.
Spokes have been replaced, and wheel has been trued and tensioned, but all the spokes certainly seem rather free to move.
So unwary about the wheel. Anyhows as I now no longer trust LBSs... how difficult is it to replace a solid axle on a back wheel? and is there anything specific I need to look for?
Id call that shop ASAP and ask for the manager. Then tell him that he/she is full of dookie, and demand a new wheel or at least the price of this bogus "service" be applied to it. If the thing was so bent as to require slack in some spokes, its a dangerous wheel to ride and the shop should have informed you of that, but instead theyre out to make money, not provide a proper service.
BTW, slightly bent axles are par for the course with cheaper bikes as the dropouts are misaligned more often than not, bending the axle slightly when under tension.
Your shop sounds like its staffed by the same assholes as mine. Run away, but complain first. If you have something like a local chamber of commerce or similar or even a national way to complain, do. I report people that deliberately try to rip me off to out Federal Trade Commission. It takes two hands to count the number of automotive shops Ive reported. Some people need an ass kicking. :grr:
take it in again tomorrow mate. keep doing it and say its the same problem, your spokes are lose :/
ugh... to complain would be an arse. its 14 miles in the wrong direction and im too busy for the next few days to go and do it.
Parents say he was a lovely man, and has been in business for years, they admit not noticing a kink in it when they took it in, but say they werent looking for it (which is fair enough considering they were really just dropping it off for me).
At the end of the day, I need the bike working, ive yet to try it on the road yet, so maybe im just seeing stuff that really has no effect. Would like to replace the axle purely for easing my mind of it going "snap!" or something when im riding it, but I just dont have the time to complain.
Thats how shops continue to rip people off. When my Redline ended up having many glaring assembly faults, I wrote a snail mail letter, with freakin diagrams. The store owner was so taken aback that they personally apologized, got me $50 worth of new tires for free, and contacted the manufacturer in Seattle. :ptu:
I complained to spare the next guy that got a crap assembly job from having to pick their teeth out of the pavement. ;)
Thing is... from what my parents say, it doesnt seem like he would benefit from saying its bent and then bending it... as according to them he "fixed it for free".
Bah something about the whole thing just doesnt make sense.