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Title: Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: Serious on April 19, 2006, 01:03:51 AM
Head on crash test. Guess which wins...

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Title: Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: Binary Shadow on April 19, 2006, 01:14:36 AM
id still rather have a range rover over a renault anything
Title: Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: maximusotter on April 19, 2006, 01:30:36 AM
Not very shocking. A ton of people over here bought SUVs for "safety" even though none were safer than a proper minivan. In fact, they were much more likely to roll over and kill the occupants. Indeed, not only are they not safe, their design makes everybody else on the road less safe due to their mass and bumper design.

Foolhardy and selfish vehicle choice except for the farmer, and person traveling in the bush.
Title: Re:Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: DEViANCE on April 19, 2006, 08:56:28 AM
very impressive
Title: Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: knighty on April 19, 2006, 09:01:53 AM
Quote from: maximusotterNot very shocking. A ton of people over here bought SUVs for "safety" even though none were safer than a proper minivan. In fact, they were much more likely to roll over and kill the occupants. Indeed, not only are they not safe, their design makes everybody else on the road less safe due to their mass and bumper design.

Foolhardy and selfish vehicle choice except for the farmer, and person traveling in the bush.

dont know if youve got them over there, or if they use a difference name, but the "Renault Espace" is claimed to be the safest car there is, full stop.

kinda changes the prespective on the test tbh.
Title: Re:Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: brummie on April 19, 2006, 10:00:39 AM
My dads mate was paralized whilst driving his land rover. A escort i think it was went into the side of him at a set of traffic light and flipped his over.
The other guy apparently walked away with relatively minor injuries.

5t gear:
i saw this on the telly the other night. Didnt surprise me TBH as the land rover isnt in reality a modern design and shouldnt be compared to the latest safest option. Also the 4x4 isnt really designed for everyday usage like the espace.

While i agree the espace proved better there lets see who win if the lived in a snowy or wet place and needed to get out  :roll:
Title: Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: redneck on April 19, 2006, 10:31:47 AM
if i lived in the sticks a disco would be the car of choice imho
Title: Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: Mark on April 19, 2006, 10:57:58 AM
Quote from: knighty
Quote from: maximusotterNot very shocking. A ton of people over here bought SUVs for "safety" even though none were safer than a proper minivan. In fact, they were much more likely to roll over and kill the occupants. Indeed, not only are they not safe, their design makes everybody else on the road less safe due to their mass and bumper design.

Foolhardy and selfish vehicle choice except for the farmer, and person traveling in the bush.

dont know if youve got them over there, or if they use a difference name, but the "Renault Espace" is claimed to be the safest car there is, full stop.

kinda changes the prespective on the test tbh.

Not any more unfortunately - the new owner of that accolade is the citroen C6 - not on sale yet though - first car ever to get full marks in pedestrian crash test
Title: Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on April 19, 2006, 11:00:33 AM
Quote from: BXGTi16V
Quote from: knighty
Quote from: maximusotterNot very shocking. A ton of people over here bought SUVs for "safety" even though none were safer than a proper minivan. In fact, they were much more likely to roll over and kill the occupants. Indeed, not only are they not safe, their design makes everybody else on the road less safe due to their mass and bumper design.

Foolhardy and selfish vehicle choice except for the farmer, and person traveling in the bush.

dont know if youve got them over there, or if they use a difference name, but the "Renault Espace" is claimed to be the safest car there is, full stop.

kinda changes the prespective on the test tbh.

Not any more unfortunately - the new owner of that accolade is the citroen C6 - not on sale yet though - first car ever to get full marks in pedestrian crash test

Didnt the jaguar with the wierd bonnet thing score really high on that?

Where the bonnet would raise to meet the person as they hit it, and would cushion their blow.
Title: Re:Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: Mark on April 19, 2006, 12:08:15 PM
aye - the c6 has the active bonnet too - been on it since the prototype way back
Title: Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: redneck on April 19, 2006, 12:49:12 PM
so welding spikes to your car is frowned upon nowadays.

damn i was going for the 100 kill multiplier bonus
Title: Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: madmax on April 19, 2006, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: redso welding spikes to your car is frowned upon nowadays.

damn i was going for the 100 kill multiplier bonus

damn thats inspired me to install carmaggeddon 2 again  :twisted:
Title: Re:Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: Cypher on April 19, 2006, 13:38:39 PM
Is it  afair test that that used one of the old Range Rovers against the current Espace model?  Though even it was a modern disco Im sure the Espace would still win.  

Not at all suprising. :)
Title: Re:Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: Pete on April 19, 2006, 14:11:38 PM
You still gotta give the Rennie credit for standing up to a ding like that.


Id take the rr over the espace though.
Title: Re:Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: Beaker on April 19, 2006, 16:28:56 PM
if i was buying a 4x4 i wouldnt have any of the fancy ones.  a Defender 110 please, with extra mud  8)

I wouldnt have an full sized MPV either, horrible things.  
Title: Re:Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: mr_roll on April 19, 2006, 20:43:34 PM
Quote from: brummie. Also the 4x4 isnt really designed for everyday usage like the espace.


I disagree, the 4x4 is designed to go offroad more than Tesco car park and the school run, but they are both designed to be used everyday.

Id have the Fiat Panda 4x4 tbh, if I was doing the farmer thing Id probably get a Toyata Hilux with MASSIVE wheels and big chassis :P If I was doing the school run, with a lot of kids Id go for the Grand Espace, as they are MASSIVE :D
Title: Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: knighty on April 19, 2006, 20:53:51 PM
omg Mr.Roll, theres no VOLVO in that list !!!!! :o
Title: Re:Renault Espace Vs Land Rover Discovery
Post by: Serious on April 22, 2006, 01:49:42 AM
Quote from: brummie5t gear:
i saw this on the telly the other night. Didnt surprise me TBH as the land rover isnt in reality a modern design and shouldnt be compared to the latest safest option. Also the 4x4 isnt really designed for everyday usage like the espace.

The point is that people do use it for everyday use and the design basically hasnt changed, even the newest still has the same design flaws. They certainly were not meant to be used as a school taxi but parents think they are safer and so tend to use them for doing that.

How would you tell a farmer he can only use his expensive Land Rover discovery every second day?  :mrgreen: