I knew after 26 yrs of driving on the stupid road, the bastards will get me one day, it used to be 70 through there, its now 30, but its not built up at all, a few very nice detached houses.
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Also the Police assume you know the amount to pay, actually I dont, what is it please ?
snap! got my NIP in my drawer still lol.
Send off the NIP with the correct details etc all filled in, and they will send you an offer of a fixed penalty for you to pay.
Will be a Ã,£60 fine and 3points.
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If you were paying attention youd notice the new limit...
Jaimz :rock:
36 in a 30? Unlucky.
I just got back from a month in France and I got one today too!
But ... i am going to dispute it as i was caught doing 59mph in a 60mph zone. They seem to think that my VW Transporter is classed as a commercial van despite it stating PLG on the V5 document. Commercial vans have to do -10mph of the offical speed limits apparently but my van is for private use and has a rear window.
Quote from: JaimzIf you were paying attention youd notice the new limit...
Jaimz :rock:
I knew they changed it, but 36 in a 30 is hardly speeding is it .
Its still speeding though...
Jaimz :rock:
im pretty sure that vans over 2000kgs GVW still have to abide by the commercial rules
everyone speeds. no big deal, you got caught. Wont be caught there again though ;)
i got done doing 57 in a 40. They sent the photos from the cam to prove it LOL
ill dig it out later
Quote from: JaimzIts still speeding though...
Jaimz :rock:
wasnt you the one that bottomed out there car going over the hump in the road to fast?? Damaged the front or something.
Quote from: brummieQuote from: JaimzIts still speeding though...
Jaimz :rock:
wasnt you the one that bottomed out there car going over the hump in the road to fast?? Damaged the front or something.
sounds very familiar as it was a newer type citreon...
sure google probably has it in its cache even if the evidence aint on here anymore :lol:
Quote from: PrivateerQuote from: JaimzIf you were paying attention youd notice the new limit...
Jaimz :rock:
I knew they changed it, but 36 in a 30 is hardly speeding is it .
True, but speedos under read by nature, chances are you where doing an indicated 40 or so.
Dont get me wrong im no saint, but I dont speed in 30/40 zones.
Quote from: ERUThey seem to think that my VW Transporter is classed as a commercial van despite it stating PLG on the V5 document. Commercial vans have to do -10mph of the offical speed limits apparently but my van is for private use and has a rear window.
Our subbie has a problem with this atm - apparently there is no legal definition of a commercial vehicle that stands up - his Astra van has rear windows but blanked sides, and no seats in the back. His legal advice has been that although strictly a commercial vehicle, because based on a car bodyshell he may get away with it. If you had seats in the back you could be surer...
Quote from: matt5cottQuote from: PrivateerQuote from: JaimzIf you were paying attention youd notice the new limit...
Jaimz :rock:
I knew they changed it, but 36 in a 30 is hardly speeding is it .
True, but speedos under read by nature, chances are you where doing an indicated 40 or so.
Dont get me wrong im no saint, but I dont speed in 30/40 zones.
I thought speedos couldnt legally read under?
They cant, but in this case its reading over. He got done at an actual 36, which means his speedo more than likely said he was doing around 40.
You knowingly broke the law, you got caught. Pay the fine and take it on the chin, dont piss and bitch. Its a fair cop, as they say.
Im not claiming that I dont speed, as you say everyone does. Personally though I stick strictly to 30/40/50 limits and am only occasionally liberal with the national speed limit.
If you get caught you werent paying enough attention to the road to spot the camera TBPH.
Jaimz :rock:
Quote from: CeathreamhnanQuote from: ERUThey seem to think that my VW Transporter is classed as a commercial van despite it stating PLG on the V5 document. Commercial vans have to do -10mph of the offical speed limits apparently but my van is for private use and has a rear window.
Our subbie has a problem with this atm - apparently there is no legal definition of a commercial vehicle that stands up - his Astra van has rear windows but blanked sides, and no seats in the back. His legal advice has been that although strictly a commercial vehicle, because based on a car bodyshell he may get away with it. If you had seats in the back you could be surer...
Ive always Known a van to be having no windows to the rear of the front doors, on the side, it doesnt matter about the back door.
Speeding tickets are simply a revenue generator, not a safety device. Im not saying that in defense of my own behavior, as I usually drive pretty close to the limit, as speeding within urban areas isnt worth it. Its especially silly on local motorways, where theres a 55mph posted limit in the city, but *everybody* does 75. Youd be a fool to drive 55 as it would be dangerous, albeit legal. Authorities who want safer roads should have patrol cars out to ticket people for poor driving habits, egregious speeders (not those that picked up 5mph going downhill by accident), bad lane discipline, dangerous passing, not yielding, blah blah blah. Give people leeway when it comes to speeding. Making the public obsess about being a mere 5mph over makes folks more likely to be looking at the speedo vs. paying attention to the road.
over here we have cameras which watch your every move max.
their bastards.
Quote from: maximusotterSpeeding tickets are simply a revenue generator, not a safety device. Im not saying that in defense of my own behavior, as I usually drive pretty close to the limit, as speeding within urban areas isnt worth it. Its especially silly on local motorways, where theres a 55mph posted limit in the city, but *everybody* does 75. Youd be a fool to drive 55 as it would be dangerous, albeit legal. Authorities who want safer roads should have patrol cars out to ticket people for poor driving habits, egregious speeders (not those that picked up 5mph going downhill by accident), bad lane discipline, dangerous passing, not yielding, blah blah blah. Give people leeway when it comes to speeding. Making the public obsess about being a mere 5mph over makes folks more likely to be looking at the speedo vs. paying attention to the road.
I agree, too many dickwits on the road. Nearly every journey I see idiocy and lunacy on the road and it enrages me. This past month Ive had a car spin out in front of me, a white van man pull out to the right hand lane at 80mph, metres in front of me, with no indication. Cue harsh braking, horn and venomous abuse from me. Then, again on the motorway, contemptible tosspot sat in the outside lane on an empty motorway doing 70mph. I indicate and move across - early - from the left to overtake a lorry and keep to my 75mph to have him pull in 10 seconds later the very moment in next to him and nearly smack straight into the side of me. More horn and swearing.
These people need to be booked, not people doing a reasonable speed on the road for the conditions. You can read the road ahead for dangers and to assess risk, you cant plan for utter dickheads without an ounce of spatial awareness swinging widly across lanes.
I NEVER speed.............. when there are cameras. :evil:
I use my brain to decide a safe speed on a particular road not listen to a bureaucrat behind a desk rubbing there hands together.
Quote from: Eddim pretty sure that vans over 2000kgs GVW still have to abide by the commercial rules
never heard of the weight limit thing before... but it should be under that... a enpty extra high top extra long wheel base transit van with a tail lift on the back is only just over that :)
i wouldnt be bothered by speed cameras if they were outside schools, next to accident black spots etc... but there just there for the money :(
the only good place Ive seen them is on the A1 north of Newcastle (notorious single carriage way).... youll be stuck behind a lorry going up and hill at 35mph, and youll think is there room to overtake ?, youll have a look and think Ill wait a bit longer till I can see beter... then you see the sign saying "376 people died here in the last 12 months" and you decide just to stay behind that lorry :)
im not sure about it, but weve got vauxhall combos at work for most of the "fleet" and theyre 1700kgs fully laden and have the same speed limits as cars
but weve just got some new transit connects which are 2000kgs fully laden and they have the 55 on A roads, 60 on dual carriageway and 70 on motorway restrictions
Quote from: ERUI just got back from a month in France and I got one today too!
But ... i am going to dispute it as i was caught doing 59mph in a 60mph zone. They seem to think that my VW Transporter is classed as a commercial van despite it stating PLG on the V5 document. Commercial vans have to do -10mph of the offical speed limits apparently but my van is for private use and has a rear window.
just realised... PLG just means under the 3500 limit you move to with HGV
my transit vans are all classed as PLG
PLG=Private&light goods
2 of my pet hates relates to speed.
Those who slow right down in national speed limit zoes to 40, 50 MPH (/Edit .....for a speed camera), its just dangerous. Also those who do 40 under national speed limit and continue to do so in a 30.
Im no saint, I dont think anyone will ever claim to be. But I do have a lot of respect for 20 & 30 zones especially. I wont be caught out becuase I was going a speed where I couldnt stop for the kid who came out behind the car or whatever.
Im usually one to sit at the speed limit becuase Im quite happy to do that most of the time. If Im in the mood to get a move on its usaully under 50/60/70 zones and use my own judgement for a safe speed. If Im ever caught itll probably be on a dual carrigeway/motorway.
Bad luck chap.
Quote from: knightyQuote from: ERUI just got back from a month in France and I got one today too!
But ... i am going to dispute it as i was caught doing 59mph in a 60mph zone. They seem to think that my VW Transporter is classed as a commercial van despite it stating PLG on the V5 document. Commercial vans have to do -10mph of the offical speed limits apparently but my van is for private use and has a rear window.
just realised... PLG just means under the 3500 limit you move to with HGV
my transit vans are all classed as PLG
You can drive 7.5 ton trucks on a normal licence.
Quote from: CypherThose who slow right down in national speed limit zoes to 40, 50 MPH, its just dangerous. Also those who do 40 under national speed limit and continue to do so in a 30.
I swear if another person does this to me on a single carriageway I will strap a minigun to the roof of my Clio.
It narks me off especially so because I know the car doesnt have to capacity to overtake lorries effectively, let alone oomph it safely past cars. I could put the hours of my life wasted sat behind these morons to good use.
Quote from: PrivateerQuote from: knightyQuote from: ERUI just got back from a month in France and I got one today too!
But ... i am going to dispute it as i was caught doing 59mph in a 60mph zone. They seem to think that my VW Transporter is classed as a commercial van despite it stating PLG on the V5 document. Commercial vans have to do -10mph of the offical speed limits apparently but my van is for private use and has a rear window.
just realised... PLG just means under the 3500 limit you move to with HGV
my transit vans are all classed as PLG
You can drive 7.5 ton trucks on a normal licence.
Nah you cant mate, you have to do an LGV licence for over 3.5tonne dont you??
Depends when you passed your test. I did mine (car & bike) in 1994, and HGV test in 1999. I didnt have to do a class 2, I went straight to Class 1.
didnt know you could jump right to class 1 :o
anyone who passed there test before june 1998 (iirc) can drive up to 7.5 ton
anyone who passed after that can only go up to 3.5 ton
hence me having to take a test before I can drive my new 6.5 tonner :(
at least i think i did - i dont remember having to do a rigid test first. Did mine through a haulier over the border.
Quote from: Cypher2 of my pet hates relates to speed.
Those who slow right down in national speed limit zoes to 40, 50 MPH (/Edit .....for a speed camera), its just dangerous. Also those who do 40 under national speed limit and continue to do so in a 30.
.....
i hate that as well
theres a road on my way to work, part of it goes past a school plus houses and is a 30, 50% go up that hill at 40.
then on the brow of the hill it changes to a national... 90% stick at the 40 they where just doing :evil: :evil:
glad im on a bike, least i can blow them away downhill easy enough, no junctions on that strech apart from at the end which is a t junction anyhow.... even passed a cop coming the otherway and didnt see them bat an eyelid although i was crapping myself :whoops: :lol:
Quote from: JaimzPersonally though I stick strictly to 30/40/50 limits and am only occasionally liberal with the national speed limit.
Thats the way I do it, in a residential area you are more likely to hit a kid or something - So I dont speed there.
hit a national speed limit B road and ill pay a bit less attention to whether the speedo is floating near a 60 or something else & get one with some driving :)
well itll learn you a lesson.
not to speed and pay more attention to the road signs
yea if u passed after a certain date u can only drive up to 3.5 times
i kept asking the supervisor if i could take an 06 reg LWB hitop tranny for a drive about town today, but he didnt have the key for it :/
Quote from: kinkybiatchwell itll learn you a lesson.
what lesson ?
Quote from: Eddyea if u passed after a certain date u can only drive up to 3.5 times
i kept asking the supervisor if i could take an 06 reg LWB hitop tranny for a drive about town today, but he didnt have the key for it :/
the long wheel base ones are nice, the longer they are the better they corner... plus most of them have the 15inch rims instead of the 14inchers.... much better road holding... its suprising what a difference it makes :)
I learnt a lesson from speeding - Live by the sword, die by the sword :lol:
at first i was furious, but i knew i got caught fair and square so eventually took it like a man.
I was still on probation so for over a year i was *really* good, and didnt speed at all - and it made me a better driver i think.
Now Im over two years, and I always use careful consideration beofre I decide how fast to drive - and I know I will be accountable if im speeding.
Quote from: knightyQuote from: kinkybiatchwell itll learn you a lesson.
what lesson ?
Quote from: Eddyea if u passed after a certain date u can only drive up to 3.5 times
i kept asking the supervisor if i could take an 06 reg LWB hitop tranny for a drive about town today, but he didnt have the key for it :/
the long wheel base ones are nice, the longer they are the better they corner... plus most of them have the 15inch rims instead of the 14inchers.... much better road holding... its suprising what a difference it makes :)
Its not so much the length of the wheelbase - its more the distance of the rear axle to the rear of the vehicle - increase this and you affect the handling characteristic most markedly.
If I dont get a speeding ticket after this weekend I will be shocked.. Huddersfield seemed to be covered in the buggers and Leeds, ive never being on a road in Leeds that doesnt have a Speed Camera on... I was well behaved in Leeds as I could be, but Huddersfield new city no idea of what the limits where so I just went for what I thought was correct and that was 40ish... Most of the traffic seemed to be at that :)