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Started by neXus, March 29, 2009, 08:44:44 AM

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neXus

Please Sticky.


WOW, what a race.

GO GO Button, Solid through out.
Well done to Hamilton, That is some good points for a crap car and what not.

Kers Works then.


Maldonado

Didnt see the race, but great results all round - Team Brawn, Hamilton going from 18th to 3rd and Buemi getting a point.

Ceathreamhnan

I bet Honda feel a bit dumb now  :mutley:

Serious

Quote from: neXusPlease Sticky.

superglued in place.

Rivkid

Only just recovered - how freaking amazing was that? Thought Button drove a solid race and Hamilton was quite frankly fantastic. THe new rules have certainly made for an exciting competition - I can see why they made the changes to be fair.
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neXus

Quote from: RivkidOnly just recovered - how freaking amazing was that? Thought Button drove a solid race and Hamilton was quite frankly fantastic. THe new rules have certainly made for an exciting competition - I can see why they made the changes to be fair.

Kers will be a good thing but it really is just a temporary thing. Yes overall funding will be cut but the top teams will re-establish themselves and at some point in time everything will be back to square one when people get to grips with the new rules etc. May be next season when it happens but there are clever people making F1 cars so any rule change will soon get sorted by the boffins that make the cars.

Rivkid

KERS was only offered so that F1 is seen to be contributing to the development of green systems that could one day be used in road cars. Itll have its moment then disappear Im sure - I dont see it lasting. Branson looks set to take over Brawn and label it Virgin F1 which Im all for. Huge for the team and huge for F1 too. We know Buttons a good enough driver to be champion and with Branson cash behind him hell get a great opportunity to do so.

The top teams Im not so sure about. The history of F1 has shown that the teams classed as top teams always changes and that will always be the case. It wasnt that long ago that Williams and Renault were untouchable and I can easily remember when Ferrari were absolutely sh*te.  Add to that the fact that they are trying to enforce a budget cap next year of about 1/4 of what the big teams currently spend and I think theyll have a much tougher time fighting off the smaller teams. Well see a lot more drivers moving teams I think because theyre going to become a much more valuable commodity, as I personally think Lewis proved yesterday.
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Serious

A budget cap would certainly make it far more difficult for the big teams to buy their way to the top via technology.

I tink green systems are going to stay put, they dont want to be seen too environmentally unfriendly. Chances are some will try other fuels.

neXus

Quote from: RivkidKERS was only offered so that F1 is seen to be contributing to the development of green systems that could one day be used in road cars. Itll have its moment then disappear Im sure - I dont see it lasting. Branson looks set to take over Brawn and label it Virgin F1 which Im all for. Huge for the team and huge for F1 too. We know Buttons a good enough driver to be champion and with Branson cash behind him hell get a great opportunity to do so.

The top teams Im not so sure about. The history of F1 has shown that the teams classed as top teams always changes and that will always be the case. It wasnt that long ago that Williams and Renault were untouchable and I can easily remember when Ferrari were absolutely sh*te.  Add to that the fact that they are trying to enforce a budget cap next year of about 1/4 of what the big teams currently spend and I think theyll have a much tougher time fighting off the smaller teams. Well see a lot more drivers moving teams I think because theyre going to become a much more valuable commodity, as I personally think Lewis proved yesterday.

Top Teams have always been the ones with money, even with budget caps that will remain but also the teams with the biggest engine backing tend to be up there. Brawn having a Merc Engine for example has meant they have shot up the ladder. Of course there are all the other factors but that will be a major aspect of it.
Williams were working with BMW with a new engine after quite a few years of engine changes and issues after their top team status which dropped them back. They started to build up again and BMW went solo and set them back again.
The politics of car mechanics and who has what has always been interesting and will always be a part of F1 and who does well and one of the unique aspects of the sport I think should not change.

F1 Is as much about the team around the track and back at the HQs who develop the car to win. If a car is fast because the car is fast and the driver has a good time in it then that is great, the people who built it deserve that credit. That is why the points system matters for me, consistent racing is as important as winning races. (Take Days of Thunder for example, lol or Topgun mind since that is basically the same movie)

Button people tend not to rate and say he is overated but the ones that rate him. I have always liked him and felt bad for him for years. Missed opportunity and bad cars and bad reliability. He has a very smooth driving style which helps him on many tracks and in the race and a plus with the new cars. He can not drive aggressive when he needs to though, he can take it up a gear when under pressure but agaisnt aggressive drivers he does struggle and back at the pack for the last few seasons that has shown through.
Haminton is just an amazing driver, his race was nothing short of stunning. With a car that was probably 0.3 seconds a lap slower then most cars and 0.5+ vs the top cars in the race he drove very well. Yep he had some luck and you need it in F1 but he drove like a champ. He is a lot like shuey with his aggressive driving style but he also knows how to float the car around the track too.

Privateer

5Th for Hamilton, hes so skilled, hell start getting pole soon, he did say ill do a lot better mid season.

Privateer

I hope Ferrari do win in court, that prick Max needs telling hes to powerful hes ruined F1.

Rivkid

Hmm see if we can reignite this thread.

Looks like its going to be one hell of a good end to the season one way or the other. Seems like Red Bull are out of it now so its between Rubens and Jenson. 14 points between the two and 4 races to go - so Rubens needs Jenson to have at least one DNF in my opinion as I cant seem him scoring 3.5 more points than him every race. Rubes is definitely on form but there wasnt really anything between them in Italy they were practically identical the whole weekend it just dropped slightly in Rubens favour this time.  

If RB does win it I will be really happy for him he does deserve a champtionship and hes a great guy - but if Im honest Ill cry for weeks for Jenson! Ive followed the guy for over 10 years through all sorts of sh*t, realistically never believing he would get a championship winning car. Jenson taking it this year would mean a hell of a lot after all this time and I honestly dont think anyone has worked harder and put up with as much sh*t for such an extended period as he has. Fingers crossed he keeps his cool, brings it home every race, and wins it comfortably.

COME ON JENSON!!  :ptu:
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neXus

You seen the new teams for 2010. Bigger grid, Lotus, American Team trying to do F1....

Interesting Season next year as well by the looks of things.

Rivkid

Yeah next season has a lot of promise but they really need to get this 14 team agreement through to allow BMW/Sauber in. It would have been better if all the new teams hadnt been forced to use Cosworth engines too but you cant have everything. Heres to Anthony Davidson getting a Lotus drive  :cheers:
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Privateer

obviously Abu Dhabi paid Bernie millions, whod have a race in a country where drinking is banned, is it fizzy water as champagne.
Quotecelabrate with water
ROSEWATER :mutley: :mutley: :mutley: :mutley:

the Germans lost Hockenheim to him obviously 5 million wasnt enough. we going to loose the British GP because of him.