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Title: was caught speeding.... ish.... now properly :(
Post by: knighty on March 11, 2009, 21:49:39 PM
copper in an M5 hiding in the bushes on my way home.... he was well back so I didnt see him....


luck for me I was going too fast for him to get my speed as I passed him and I overtook someone just after passing him... by the time he caught up I was parked outside my house....  so got off with a verbal warning....

tho it stays on my "record" (or whatever) for 12 months.... so if I do it again theyll know about it :-s
Title: caught speeding.... ish
Post by: Goblin on March 11, 2009, 22:07:04 PM
Go on, tell us the real reason you got off. You gave him the Knighty look, didnt you? Like putty in your hands.
Title: Re:caught speeding.... ish
Post by: Eggtastico on March 11, 2009, 22:42:33 PM
he cant put anything "on your record" if he doesnt have proof.
Hes talking sh*t.
Title: Re:caught speeding.... ish
Post by: zpyder on March 11, 2009, 22:46:27 PM
Heh, so thats why all these police chases you see on TV happen. If they can make it home before the cops catch up, they get off with a warning!
Title: caught speeding.... ish
Post by: knighty on March 11, 2009, 23:11:17 PM
its not on a proper criminal record... he was blabbing on and I didnt want to interupt... basically if I get pulled again when they put my name into the computer itll come up about being pulled this time....

best not to argue with them if youre not getting done tbh.... theyll just make your life miserable if you do :-o
Title: Re:caught speeding.... ish
Post by: neXus on March 12, 2009, 00:23:04 AM
Means nothing. Stupid.


"hey this guy was possibly speeding on the [date] so take that into account here"

If your stopped for speeding and they have proof then your going to get punished, and the "he may have before" note means nothing and should mean nothing with no proof and if you get a fine more then the standard because of that the it is the courts you should go.
Title: caught speeding.... ish
Post by: knighty on March 12, 2009, 00:57:29 AM
^^ exactly


Im suposed to get something in the post... if it says something I dont like the sound of then Ill complain#


its kinda obvious I was speeding when the car I overtook (which he got stuck behind) was speeding too !

but they have no proof !
Title: caught speeding.... ish
Post by: Jaimz on March 12, 2009, 06:48:28 AM
Hang on youre from near Newcastle so if you got spotted on the M5 which runs from Birmingham to near Exeter, good going to keep ahead for all that time back to the NE!

?!

Jaimz :rock:
Title: Re:caught speeding.... ish
Post by: soopahfly on March 12, 2009, 09:50:16 AM
In an M5, so I presume that means the car, not with his head poking out the tarmac....
As nice an image as that might be.
Title: Re:caught speeding.... ish
Post by: Mark on March 12, 2009, 10:21:21 AM
The police are quite capable of, and can legally book you in that case.

A policeman (Certainly traffic branch) is treated under road traffic laws to be a calibrated instrument - an expert witness.

If he says you were doing 100mph, you get done for doing 100mph.


Title: caught speeding.... ish
Post by: Cypher on March 12, 2009, 10:34:57 AM
Quote from: knightyhe was blabbing on and I didnt want to interupt...

Usually best, youll just dig yourself into a hole.
Title: Re:caught speeding.... ish
Post by: mr_roll on March 12, 2009, 21:49:37 PM
I got a letter of caution from the time I drove through a no car lane. Youll get a similar thing
Title: Re:caught speeding.... ish
Post by: Edd on March 13, 2009, 01:59:01 AM
Quote from: MarkThe police are quite capable of, and can legally book you in that case.

A policeman (Certainly traffic branch) is treated under road traffic laws to be a calibrated instrument - an expert witness.

If he says you were doing 100mph, you get done for doing 100mph.



I always thought it required 2 officers as just having one could cause all kind of problems
Title: Re:caught speeding.... ish
Post by: Serious on March 13, 2009, 03:27:41 AM
Quote from: Edd
Quote from: MarkThe police are quite capable of, and can legally book you in that case.

A policeman (Certainly traffic branch) is treated under road traffic laws to be a calibrated instrument - an expert witness.

If he says you were doing 100mph, you get done for doing 100mph.



I always thought it required 2 officers as just having one could cause all kind of problems

Doesnt matter how many officers saw it, if they dont have actual evidence in the form of video or speed gun then its not going to be put in court.
Title: Re:caught speeding.... ish
Post by: knighty on March 13, 2009, 11:32:43 AM
Quote from: SeriousDoesnt matter how many officers saw it, if they dont have actual evidence in the form of video or speed gun then its not going to be put in court.

exactly......

but guess who would be waiting for me outside my house every day and outside work every night if I annoy him ?
Title: Re:caught speeding.... ish
Post by: Edd on March 13, 2009, 16:52:10 PM
Quote from: SeriousDoesnt matter how many officers saw it, if they dont have actual evidence in the form of video or speed gun then its not going to be put in court.


No thats wrong. if 2 police officers think someone is speeding then they can give them a NIP

Im not sure about Marks statement that 1 traffic officer can hand out a NIP but i definitely know that 2 can
Title: Re:caught speeding.... ish
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2009, 17:37:22 PM
Police officers are classed, under the rules of evidence, as expert witnesses as to speed of vehicles on a road. Which means their opinion of speed is admissible in a court of law. The courts however require some form of corroboration to this opinion. This can be lasers, radar, another police officer, video etc.

Another police officer could almost always materialise in these cases.


Title: Re:caught speeding.... ish
Post by: Eggtastico on March 13, 2009, 17:46:01 PM
Quote from: knighty
Quote from: SeriousDoesnt matter how many officers saw it, if they dont have actual evidence in the form of video or speed gun then its not going to be put in court.

exactly......

but guess who would be waiting for me outside my house every day and outside work every night if I annoy him ?

then you make a complaint about harrasment.
I got a mate whos been through a simlar process, so cop buddies started giving him problems instead, he reported each of them & eventually got no more hassle.
Title: caught speeding.... ish
Post by: knighty on May 15, 2009, 01:16:35 AM
same road... same time.... different copper.... 3 points :(


oh well.... at least he told me the 6 points i thought I had are 3+years old now and so not on my licence anymore :)
Title: Re:was caught speeding.... ish.... now properly :(
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on May 15, 2009, 08:25:24 AM
Wow, lucky escape there then. My points dont start coming off my licence until next July.
Title: caught speeding.... ish
Post by: shofty on May 15, 2009, 09:12:33 AM
Quote from: knightyits not on a proper criminal record...

no, its called a section 59 and its a note against the car reg that at that time you were being a naughty boy and were told to calm down.

its just evidence that can mount up against you over time if youre a bad lad. and you keep the car.

Matt
Title: caught speeding.... ish
Post by: Grey M@a on May 15, 2009, 09:45:26 AM
Quote from: knightysame road... same time.... different copper.... 3 points :(


oh well.... at least he told me the 6 points i thought I had are 3+years old now and so not on my licence anymore :)

Aye not on the licence but insurance keeps it on record for 5 years :/ I had a right ball ache with my insurers just to get them to remove the notes on my points on the 6th year as they said it didnt matter but when I got my renewals through it was stating the points on the licence :/ They will try anything to get a few quid out of you.
Title: Re:was caught speeding.... ish.... now properly :(
Post by: Cypher on May 17, 2009, 16:14:22 PM
Im starting to think speeding is one of the most hypocritical things people can have a go at you for.  Even more so from the speeding camapigners and experts more so these days,

One of the these days Im going to get some points, a lot of major roads in my area have had the limits scrapped, some dual carigeways to 50.  I have a lot of respect for the 30 limit in urban areas, its the only one I openely give a damn about, i wont be testing my brakes for the sake of a child, but some of these new limits feel absolutely rediculous,  I aim to drive for a balance of safetly and progress, you sit there feeling like you might as well be on horse and cart.

Theres a reason we have the best record in Europe and that the training and strict tests, not the nanny state speed brigade.

What I find amusing is the country roads that I know that run parralel to roads like the A5 that are still 60.  I wonder which local counciller got a back hander to knock the limits down.
Title: Re:was caught speeding.... ish.... now properly :(
Post by: zpyder on May 17, 2009, 16:41:12 PM
On my trip up to the lakes, I found that generally on the motorways people stuck to the limits a lot more than around town down here. Its a shame as around uni way it seems that 9/10 people want to play magnetic bumpers. One of these days Im gonna slam my breaks on to see what happens, proclaiming that the person behind obviously didnt see the fox run out in front of my car.

Whats worse is the worst point for this is next to a park where theres craploads of cars parked on the side of the road, prime place for kids to run out into the road...
Title: Re:was caught speeding.... ish.... now properly :(
Post by: mr_roll on May 17, 2009, 21:33:00 PM
I chose smooth radio to calm my driving. It really does work and rarely speed, even getting to the speed limit feels like a chore.