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Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: Ceathreamhnan on August 06, 2006, 15:27:27 PM
As title. But Id like a volume control/kill button for James Allen  :evil:
Title: Re:Well done Jensen
Post by: Dave on August 06, 2006, 15:30:47 PM
awesome - twas only last weekend on top gear that he was saying something along the lines of how hed exchange all the money/life style etc.. for just one grand prix win

Glad hes finally managed it - hopefully there will be more to come in the future
Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: BigSoy on August 06, 2006, 15:42:25 PM
Quote from: CeathreamhnanAs title. But Id like a volume control/kill button for James Allen  :evil:

Amen. to the second part  :twisted:

Good result for Jenson, comedy race though.
Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: FuMaN on August 06, 2006, 15:42:38 PM
So whos the lucky charity that will inherit his fortune? :P

I understand if hed swap his fortune for a championship but not a single win. Still, credit to the guy and hopefully once Honda sort their act out hell be challenging soon.
Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: Norphy on August 06, 2006, 15:47:52 PM
That was a fantastic race. I have never been on the edge of my seat like that while watching a grand prix before.

Alonsos charge through the field was nothing short of spectacular, just a pity that his car died. Schumacher retiring was just laughable and completely his own fault. De La Rosa was very impressive and well done to BMW and Heidfeld too. Shame about Raikonnen though.

It might not have been if Alonso hadnt retired but that said Button was catching him up very quickly before he fell off the track and Button outdrove everyone else fair and square. Good on him :)

And what the frick was wrong with that director? Just as Heidfeld goes to put a move on Schumacher, he cuts away to a smoking Toyota. On the last lap of the race, he keeps on showing De La Rosa passing Schumacher. I was almost surprised when he showed Button crossing the line. ITV werent much better either when they showed that interview with Buttons Dad while other cars were still racing.
Title: Re:Well done Jensen
Post by: Badabing on August 06, 2006, 16:06:49 PM
f*cking brilliant!

hes finally done it - and not in one of the bigger named cars, like Williams or McClaren, either.
Title: Re:Well done Jensen
Post by: Ceathreamhnan on August 06, 2006, 16:15:39 PM
It is good, but its hardly on outright merit though, is it? Ive been thinking recently that since Honda have decided to micro-manage the ex-BAR team more directly now, that they are going to go backwards. Their biggest mistake was allowing David Richards to go (because clearly hes one of these people who make a difference in any form of motorsport, and likes to run things his own way).
Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: Norphy on August 06, 2006, 16:56:19 PM
The victory was on merit. Yes, the two top drivers on the track both retired but lets examine that: He was already ahead of Schumacher by some margin when Schumacher retired and he was catching up with Alonso very quickly when Alonso went. It is fortunate for Button that Alonso did retire but that takes nothing away from the victory.

The only other driver who could have challenged for the victory today was Raikonnen. However considering that de la Rosa was going faster than him when he smacked into Luizzi suggests that he probably would have finished second or third had he not done that.

Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: neXus on August 06, 2006, 17:03:23 PM
Quote from: NorphyThat was a fantastic race. I have never been on the edge of my seat like that while watching a grand prix before.

Alonsos charge through the field was nothing short of spectacular, just a pity that his car died. Schumacher retiring was just laughable and completely his own fault. De La Rosa was very impressive and well done to BMW and Heidfeld too. Shame about Raikonnen though.

It might not have been if Alonso hadnt retired but that said Button was catching him up very quickly before he fell off the track and Button outdrove everyone else fair and square. Good on him :)

And what the frick was wrong with that director? Just as Heidfeld goes to put a move on Schumacher, he cuts away to a smoking Toyota. On the last lap of the race, he keeps on showing De La Rosa passing Schumacher. I was almost surprised when he showed Button crossing the line. ITV werent much better either when they showed that interview with Buttons Dad while other cars were still racing.

Jesson had him tbh even with that problem.

Jesson 110% deserved that win, worked hard had the right car and tire and tactic and it all went well, veyr happy for him.

Schumacher your 100% right with, was being a bloody idiot again. His tires were screwed and he was to aragont when faster cars easily had him.
Cutting Rosa off like that should get him some minus points or something tbh, cus he went off the track got owned, cut accross to get ahead again, went to let him through then closed the door like an idiot, And then with the next car about to kick his ass he again tried to be stupid and broke his car as a result, He made a cock up with his tires did not change them and he should have lived with it. This season his attitude has been worse then ever and he should see that and note it and learn its time to leave the sport at the end of the season.

Director - agree, was an idiot, some are. It should be one fixed team for all races tbh not these local ones they have now, we would have far better viewing.

As for the race, was very good all the way through, it is just a shame it only happens when its rained or is raining to get such high action races.
Title: Re:Well done Jensen
Post by: Deaths Head on August 06, 2006, 23:07:05 PM
What did we say about not putting spoilers in subjects :D  I am going to assume Jensen has done well or took Alonso out of the race :)  I am waiting for the highlights to come on after being over in York all day.

Bah, TV card just switched on as the news announcer was saying who had won the race.  Sods law. :)
Title: Re:Well done Jensen
Post by: Ceathreamhnan on August 06, 2006, 23:12:25 PM
Its OK Deaths, he just managed to finish the GP thats all. Are you imposing a complete media news blackout on GP days then? No car radios? Do you shout at people in the street to keep away from you in case they give the game away? :P

Actually Im with you all teh way on the second assumption you made ;)
Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: Deaths Head on August 06, 2006, 23:16:24 PM
No, just I live a sheltered life and have few luxuries :)  I think it would be nice if people just considered people may not have watched it yet when making titles :D  Plus the tv coming on exactly when the result is being discussed was just typical.

The exact same thing happened in the world cup, I was trying to avoid the england match result because I had recorded it.  Everywhere I looked/turned/listened to/turned on was announcing the match result.  I turned the tv on to see what was on and it was the news discussing the match result :)
Title: Re:Well done Jensen
Post by: Ceathreamhnan on August 06, 2006, 23:18:58 PM
Well precisely! So whats the point in no spoilers in thread titles if youre going to allow yourself to turn the tv on?  :lol:  Because obviously, during the world cup, theres no other news item but, the world cup.
Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: Binary Shadow on August 06, 2006, 23:39:09 PM
Quote from: CeathreamhnanBut Id like a volume control/kill button for James Allen  :evil:
BRING BACK MURRAY WALKER

oh and the race was epic :D
Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: Norphy on August 07, 2006, 00:18:47 AM
Kubica has been disqualified from the race. Apparently the car has been found to be 2KG underweight. According to some reports, the loss in weight is due to him staying out on intermediates and the tyres shedding a whole load of rubber during the race.

Seems silly really. Youd think theyd take that sort of thing into account.

The net result of this is that Massa has been promoted to seventh and Schumacher has been awarded eighth despite not finishing.
Title: Re:Well done Jensen
Post by: Deaths Head on August 07, 2006, 00:22:23 AM
Quote from: CeathreamhnanWell precisely! So whats the point in no spoilers in thread titles if youre going to allow yourself to turn the tv on?  :lol:  Because obviously, during the world cup, theres no other news item but, the world cup.
To avoid spoiling the result for people who havent watched it. :P

What a race.  Fantastic action all the way.  THE best race in a long time.  And the James Allen sentiments are echoed here.  I was expecting him to burst a blood vessel.  I wish someone would just do the world a favour and get rid of him.

Was there any explanation of why Brundle was not there?  Anthony did well as a commentator, although he also went a tad overboard.  I liked how Barichello tried to get some of the limelight for himself.  "Jensen, great.   Team, Great.  ME!" :)  He also had a good race.
Title: Re:Well done Jensen
Post by: Deaths Head on August 07, 2006, 00:24:35 AM
Quote from: CeathreamhnanIt is good, but its hardly on outright merit though, is it? Ive been thinking recently that since Honda have decided to micro-manage the ex-BAR team more directly now, that they are going to go backwards. Their biggest mistake was allowing David Richards to go (because clearly hes one of these people who make a difference in any form of motorsport, and likes to run things his own way).

Fortunately, we will see David Richards back next year (or 2008) with Pro Drive.  Dave always came across in interviews as someone on the ball.
Title: Re:Well done Jensen
Post by: Ceathreamhnan on August 07, 2006, 00:47:35 AM
I think his only real error in recent years was to buy the TV rights to WRC from Bernie with the idea that he could make the WRC championship (which is rapidly turning into a repeat round of identical events that could practically be held on a gravel oval indoors) into a global media circus as big as F1!

Tbh JB made the best of a daft GP - but this always happens when we get a rain affected race. Didnt Johnnie Herbert win the MC GP one year in a V8 Cosworth under similar circumstances? Id like to take heart that hed win more races in the same way, but what really needs to happen is for the Hungaroring to be ditched from F1 and for him to jump into a McLaren or similar. I feel that the Hondas are destined to be mired mid-grid in the same way as Toyota, because they wont buy into the cutting edge engineering personalities (exclusively based in Britain) that populate the best F1 teams.

Two years ago I posted about Button coming 3rd in the F1 championship behind MS and KR, under Richards control of the BAR team. Last year he was ninth...
Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: Deaths Head on August 07, 2006, 01:00:33 AM
Last season was marred by a few technical gaffs, and without David Richards in charge iirc.

WRC would never become as big as F1 in my opinion.  The races are just too long.  And the coverage over here is dire.  Its relegated to an post midnight slot.  Worse than the F1 highlights programme.  What really surprises me is ITV does not do a preview show on a Thursday or Friday before the GP.  There is a lot that goes on between races but gets next to no coverage from ITV.  In places, the ITV coverage is dire.  A few races ago, Qualifying was dumped to ITV4.  It was like watching a webcast.  If F1 is such an important jewel in the ITV Sport crown, why not drop it to ITV2?  ITV2 gets 2-3 times the bandwidth that ITV4 gets.

It was still a smooth performance from Jensen in testing conditions.  And since Jensen has had so much bad luck so far this season, its only fair he has one race where everything falls into place for him.  What worried me was when Alonso was cutting the field to shreds (Alonso had a very good race, a shame the same cant be said about the mechanic that fitted that rear right wheel), there was absolutely no mention of the times Jensen was putting in.  At least, thats how it appeared in the highlights.  He was obviously moving at similar pace to Alonso because he was overtaking just as often.

Its safe to say that at almost every race so far, the tv directors have been poor.  There was a nice camera shot from the start of the race that focussed on the tyres as the race started.  Apart from that, very poor.
Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: Deaths Head on August 07, 2006, 01:08:54 AM
And oh dear

QuoteIt was a very tough race to make a Grand Prix debut but despite a couple of spins in the very slippery conditions today in Hungary, Robert Kubica brought his BMW Sauber home in a fine seventh position.

Sadly for the Pole, it has emerged this evening that post race scrutineering revealed that his car was 2 kilos under weight. The Stewards have therefore nullified his result and that promotes Felipe Massa up to seventh position with Michael Schumacher taking the final point for eighth.

Should the championship go down to the wire, this single point may prove to be very valuable to Schumacher who was classified initially in ninth, despite not finishing the race.

Fernando Alonso now leads Schumacher by ten points with five races remaining while Renault?s advantage over Ferrari is cut to seven points.

I thought he had a good race.  How did they lose 2 kilo?  Was the other BMW the same?  Thats a pretty big blunder.
Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: Ceathreamhnan on August 07, 2006, 01:30:32 AM
Quote from: Deaths HeadAnd since Jensen has had so much bad luck so far this season, its only fair he has one race where everything falls into place for him.  
But he really needs to lose the beard, hes beginning to look as old as his dad now :lol:
Title: Re:Well done Jensen
Post by: neXus on August 07, 2006, 12:17:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAhkfG6eoBM

Think he was happy?
Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: neXus on August 07, 2006, 12:29:46 PM
Quote from: NorphyKubica has been disqualified from the race. Apparently the car has been found to be 2KG underweight. According to some reports, the loss in weight is due to him staying out on intermediates and the tyres shedding a whole load of rubber during the race.

Seems silly really. Youd think theyd take that sort of thing into account.

The net result of this is that Massa has been promoted to seventh and Schumacher has been awarded eighth despite not finishing.

Well then if a certain idiot in a red car finished the race he would have been as well since those were bold when he went into the pits to retire.
Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: soopahfly on August 07, 2006, 12:31:50 PM
It was stigs training on top gear that allowed this win :D
Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: neXus on August 07, 2006, 15:11:01 PM
Quote from: soopahflyIt was stigs training on top gear that allowed this win :D
Old one was Perry McCarthy, anyone know who the new one is?

Rumor is it is ethier damon hill or some other ex touring car or f1 drive
Title: Re:Well done Jensen
Post by: funkychicken9000 on August 07, 2006, 15:40:54 PM
The old one got his ass fired for admitting he was the stig.

Id rather not know tbh :)
Title: Well done Jensen
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 10, 2006, 08:14:28 AM
Quote from: neXus
Quote from: soopahflyIt was stigs training on top gear that allowed this win :D
Old one was Perry McCarthy, anyone know who the new one is?

Rumor is it is ethier damon hill or some other ex touring car or f1 drive

Who is Perry McCarthy???   :?
Title: Re:Well done Jensen
Post by: Cypher on August 11, 2006, 16:53:16 PM
Not a very well known driver, he was a F1 Test Driver for the Arrows team in 1991.

He only raced in 1992 for Andrea Moda.  After a very poor year and he ended up testing for Williams and Benetton in the 90s.  One of these drivers that never got a proper break.
Title: Re:Well done Jensen
Post by: Penguin on December 29, 2006, 06:52:14 AM
hm, arent most drivers comparatively unknown - outside their own country, at least?

Yes, I am ignorant.



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