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Title: Which one?
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on July 18, 2008, 19:54:01 PM
Okay so I get to get my first car and fortunately my company will be fronting all the costs :)

Ive a choice of:
Ford SMAX - Studio 100
Ford CMAX - Studio 100
Ford Focus - Studio 100
Ford Fusion - Zetec Climate

Im leaning towards the Ford Fusion Zetec Climate as its a decent spec, comes with a 1.6 diesel engine. But then the Ford focus looks a nicer car, and is bigger :)

What would you pick?
Title: Which one?
Post by: Sam on July 18, 2008, 20:08:04 PM
My dad has a focus hes happy with it.
Title: Which one?
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on July 18, 2008, 20:24:56 PM
The focus is the Base spec one however.

Fusion = 1 from top spec.

The quikclear windscreen, the air con and the alloy wheels appeal to me :D
Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: Beaker on July 18, 2008, 20:29:27 PM
What will you be doing with it?  Motorway, Town of a mix of both?  Also, check company car tax and suchlike.  Personally I would sooner be paying a little as possible for the best balance of practical and cheap.  Ive seen someone trying to fit a full set of rackmount servers into the back of a Golf, it wasnt pretty.  
Title: Which one?
Post by: Jaimz on July 18, 2008, 20:31:04 PM
fusion is fugly though id have the cmax myself, get all sorts of stuff in the back

Jaimz :rock:
Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on July 18, 2008, 20:34:10 PM
Quote from: BeakerWhat will you be doing with it?  Motorway, Town of a mix of both?  Also, check company car tax and suchlike.  Personally I would sooner be paying a little as possible for the best balance of practical and cheap.  Ive seen someone trying to fit a full set of rackmount servers into the back of a Golf, it wasnt pretty.  

Id be driving 90 miles a day, 80miles of it on the motorway. 10 Miles of it in traffic jam hell. As for fitting stuff in the back, not really an issue, both cars appear adequate in space for that.

Just looking at the focus, thats a damn sight sexier than the fusion... but totally no frills, I mean they even punt a fuel tank hole that doesnt fit a diesel pump as a prime feature.
Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: BigSoy on July 18, 2008, 21:07:35 PM
all much of a tedious muchness with those engines, so go with the one with the most toys... you drive it from the inside not the outside.
Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: Mark on July 18, 2008, 22:18:46 PM
And get it remapped when you get it - one of the generic ODB flashes will do

Title: Which one?
Post by: matt5cott on July 18, 2008, 22:54:58 PM
Quote from: M3ta7h3adThe focus is the Base spec one however.

Fusion = 1 from top spec.

The quikclear windscreen, the air con and the alloy wheels appeal to me :D

If youre saying the others dont have aircon, get the one with aircon, you must be mental to buy a new car nowadays with no aircon :ptu:
Title: Which one?
Post by: Goblin on July 18, 2008, 23:17:01 PM
The cheapass one button aircon in the Fords is pretty useless anyway. Id go for the S-Max so you can transport seven people to the meet-up :)

S-Max because I love cars you can fit half your house in. If you dont want something that big the Focus because the C-Max and Fusion are ugly as sin.
Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: Mark on July 18, 2008, 23:48:52 PM
and get it remapped
Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 19, 2008, 00:06:07 AM
Quote from: BigSoyall much of a tedious muchness with those engines, so go with the one with the most toys... you drive it from the inside not the outside.

I agree. They are just Fords at the end of the day, the Focus may look nicer, but if you dont need the room definitely get the Climate with all the toys. Air con isnt just for summer, its the best screen demister out there.
Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: El Jacko on July 19, 2008, 09:43:53 AM
Personally, Id get the S-max. My dads got one for work, its supremely comfortable and surprisingly nimble. Also, its got 7 seats or about 6 cu yd of storage. Youd get a rackmount and about 3 children in the back of it. And it looks better than the C-max or fusion
Title: Which one?
Post by: Edd on July 19, 2008, 11:24:01 AM
having a gander on the ford website and it says they dont do a SMAX in the studio spec, the edge spec is the base one and thats got aircon, so if u could double check on the SMAX trim level it might be an Edge and youd be onto a winner
Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on July 19, 2008, 14:33:36 PM
an smax is out because its far too big.
Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: Sam on July 19, 2008, 16:17:01 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0Ne
Quote from: BigSoyall much of a tedious muchness with those engines, so go with the one with the most toys... you drive it from the inside not the outside.

I agree. They are just Fords at the end of the day, the Focus may look nicer, but if you dont need the room definitely get the Climate with all the toys. Air con isnt just for summer, its the best screen demister out there.

You dont really need Air Con in the UK.
Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on July 19, 2008, 16:21:36 PM
Right I got the list completely wrong. lol

Just logged into my companies vpn now and got the right list.

Ford Fusion 1.6ltr Petrol - Zetec Climate
Ford Fusion 1.6ltr TDCi - Zetec Climate
Ford Focus 1.6ltr TDCi - Studio
Ford CMAX 1.6ltr - Studio 100

Focus base model comes with the heated wing mirrors and electric front windows, no air con or quikclear however.

Fusion comes with all the trimmings to be honest, just missing heated wing mirrors and a more sophisticated control for the aircon.

Metallic Paint is offered free on all models - I can possibly spend a certain amount on extras (something like 10% the cost of the car)
Title: Which one?
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on July 19, 2008, 16:25:31 PM
Looking closer... Appears the focus comes with a lot of equipment as standard that the fusion only comes with at the zetec climate level.

the full IPS (intelligent protection system), alarm, PATS, various other bits and pieces... dammit now im leaning towards the focus.

Plus a fusion raises eyebrows from mates for the wrong reasons :D (WTF IS THAT THING!) much prefer to have a somewhat nice looking car to not totally look out of place against their BMWs :D
Title: Which one?
Post by: Edd on July 19, 2008, 16:27:45 PM
got the focus and then the aircon as an option, bargain
Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: El Jacko on July 19, 2008, 18:32:52 PM
To be fair, with the same engine and similar trimmings the focus is easily the better choice because a) its surprisingly spacious and b) looks a hell of a lot better than that fugly fusion
Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on July 19, 2008, 20:08:53 PM
Quote from: El JackoTo be fair, with the same engine and similar trimmings the focus is easily the better choice because a) its surprisingly spacious and b) looks a hell of a lot better than that fugly fusion

Its hearing stuff from current focus owners. They say go for the fusion as the base spec focus is boring.

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Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: Serious on July 20, 2008, 02:19:08 AM
Quote from: Sam
Quote from: Clockd 0Ne
Quote from: BigSoyall much of a tedious muchness with those engines, so go with the one with the most toys... you drive it from the inside not the outside.

I agree. They are just Fords at the end of the day, the Focus may look nicer, but if you dont need the room definitely get the Climate with all the toys. Air con isnt just for summer, its the best screen demister out there.

You dont really need Air Con in the UK.

Exactly, open the window and you will freeze to death quite effectively in summer...
Title: Which one?
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on July 21, 2008, 23:08:55 PM
And your fuel economy hits zero.

Im sold... Fusion it is, went to have a look at a few at a local ford garage. Seems rather nice to be honest inside, and ive seen worse cars outside. Just looks like a more manly fiesta.
Title: Which one?
Post by: El Jacko on July 22, 2008, 08:07:38 AM
Quote from: M3ta7h3ad...seen worse cars outside. Just looks like a more manly fiesta.

I suppose youre right there. Focus still looks better IMO.
Title: Which one?
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on July 22, 2008, 13:19:46 PM
Quote from: El Jacko
Quote from: M3ta7h3ad...seen worse cars outside. Just looks like a more manly fiesta.

I suppose youre right there. Focus still looks better IMO.

Aye true, but then I was sitting at the traffic lights in a mates car the other day.... EVERY car (including my mates one) was a focus. It must be the most common car out there.

The car in front isnt a toyota... its a bloody ford! :D
Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: Shaun on July 22, 2008, 13:43:51 PM
Go for a Focus! ...the Fusion looks like a 4x4 wannabe, only ever seem mums on the school run driving them tbh :P

I have no experience of driving a Fusion tbh but I would imagine the Focus would be a far nicer place to be at motorway speeds. :)
Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: El Jacko on July 22, 2008, 14:42:51 PM
One of my grandparents has a fusion, and even though its fugly it has quite a high driving position and you feel as if youre in a bigger car than you really are.
Title: Re:Which one?
Post by: Cypher on July 24, 2008, 22:52:47 PM
The Fusion is a Fiesta in a hat, literally.  All you are getting is the extra space.  However it has a good ride, comfort and driving posistion and would make a good every day car, despite how ugly it is.

The Max is simply too big unless your planning on running a night club buisness or taxi firm.

The focus has allways been an excellent car with a good choice of engine range.  Its been one of the best all round cars I have driven.  Space is a bit more crampt than it should be.

Just make sure you go for a diesel engine, and I dont mean that because of economy.  They are just usually the best in the range.

Really its either Ford Fusion 1.6ltr TDCi - Zetec Climate or Ford Focus 1.6ltr TDCi - Studio.