Well, my open pro/tiagra rear got nicked the other day. So I need something new.
What should I go for? I was contemplating getting a fw-type so I could fixie it, possibly something with threads to support both a FW and a track sprocket on the same side?
Throw me some ideas here people!
Youre all fricking amateurs.
/points to absence of maximusotter...
/drinks malibu...
/wears grass hat while reclining on deck chair...
Quote from: funkychicken9000Youre all fricking amateurs.
lol well we could google and guess, but I know about as much about SS wheels as I do about which type of tampon I would prefer if I was a woman. So my answers would mean nothing.
Only other guy who rides SS is Badabing, and hes more into MTBs and is probably in a sorta similar position as the rest of us. Soopah works for a bike shop, but its MTBs again... and while may know someone is probably in the same boat.
For once I agree with serious :), Max is the core of the cycling forum. Without him your quite correct, at least on the road side, were all amateurs.
Mostly I know what Im talking about when I spout off, OK I might not get what I mean across but the forums are a limited method of communication.
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TBH if I had thought on and done a picture of what I meant when arguing about the micro filters it would have been obvious....
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Anyway for this I dont know so Im keeping my mouth shut rather than risk putting both feet in it.
Just get gears you homo.
yes. you are right. i am.
Quote from: soopahflyJust get gears you homo.
Toss off. I represent twice has hard with 1 gear, get me.
Quote from: soopahflyJust get gears you homo.
you know nothing...
i will never go back to gears, you weak little puffter....
Quote from: M3ta7h3adQuote from: funkychicken9000Youre all fricking amateurs.
lol well we could google and guess, but I know about as much about SS wheels as I do about which type of tampon I would prefer if I was a woman. So my answers would mean nothing.
The green ones?
http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=180
Yeah, already thought about it. Thing is though it would end up costing a tidy sum and whilst I love on-one as a company Ive got no idea what their rims are like and Im not going to order blind.
Ive got for a set of open pros again, this time laced to SRAM hubs with DT spokes. 1900g the pair and Ã,£41 delivered. Got to buy another set of SS spacers though :evil:
Quote from: funkychicken9000Yeah, already thought about it. Thing is though it would end up costing a tidy sum and whilst I love on-one as a company Ive got no idea what their rims are like and Im not going to order blind.
Ive got for a set of open pros again, this time laced to SRAM hubs with DT spokes. 1900g the pair and Ã,£41 delivered. Got to buy another set of SS spacers though :evil:
order blind?
with the greatest of respect, on-one stuff is superb and its excellent value for money... cant rate them enough, im getting a set of track wheels built from them.
The rims are good, usually re-branded Alex ones.
I had some from the parent company "Planet-X" and couldnt fault them.
And Im still adamant that your of the slightly limp wristed society, due to the fact that im still faster than you :D
Even with Maxxis Minion Super Tackys 2.35 :D
Quote from: soopahflyAnd Im still adamant that your of the slightly limp wristed society, due to the fact that im still faster than you :D
Only when you fall off the side of a hill. Point to point youd be blushing :twisted:
Youd be suprised matey
Go on then, lets hear your PB for a 10 miler :lol:
Would be in the minutes, for a good descent.
No point going along the flat. Thats what cars are for.
Quote from: funkychicken9000Go on then, lets hear your PB for a 10 miler :lol:
lets not start this game, as i could proably do 10 miles on foot faster than you lot could cycle it.
so there.
yes i am faster than you.
Theyve arrived. Turns out that only the rear is an Open Pro (with Double Bd spokes again 8) ), the front is something a bit shabby. Hubs are Coda Performance, which = a bit sucky probably.
Ill keep my current front, so it means colours wont match but who cares. Need to get a longer chain then Ill be running 52x18 8)
Formula flip flop + 32H silver Alex DM18 rim (http://www.alexrims.com/product_detail.asp?btn=4&cat=4&id=96).* Dont know of the prices in the UK, but here the hub is @ $50 and the rim is a steal at $18, and made from stronger, albeit heavier, stoff than an Open Pro. Build it yourself and learn a new skill. 3X is easy if you do it methodically.
Alternately, find a vintage freewheeld wheel, undish, move axle, and add a cog with plenty of locking compound. Dont "engine brake" until youve done one standing climb to torque it down.
And in the future, lock your bike this way (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html), using a cable loop to secure the front, and youll keep your wheels forever.
BTW, you can use pretty much any rear hub, cassette or not if you run across something. Spacers are your friend. :lol:
Sorry for not responding, as I totally missed this thread till it got bumped again. :P
*alternately get a Sun CR18 in silver polish for a couple clams more.
Anyone got any idea where I can source relatively cheap track/flipflop hubs in the UK? Cheapest I can find for a single hub seems to be On-ones doublesided hubs, but theyre out of stock :(
Also rims would be good... no idea where to get these things and ebay seems to be totally dry for track hubs!
You dont *need* a track hub. If youre on a budget, just find a vintage freewheel hub, and recenter the axle as its not getting a full stack. Track cog + locking compound + climb one steep hill, and itll stay put just fine.
Alternately get a cheap prebuilt cassette type wheel and use a Surly Fixxer (http://www.surlybikes.com/parts/fixxer_pop.html) which is probably 2x the cost that it is stateside.
:ptu:
Id ideally like a track hub, as Ive been warned heavily against running a track cog without a lockring!
Ive seen the surly fixxer before and it looks cool, but Im not 100% familiar with how it works. Will I need to redish the wheel, or can you vary the position of the cog thread relative to the centre of the hub?
Quote from: funkychicken9000Id ideally like a track hub, as Ive been warned heavily against running a track cog without a lockring!?
Likely by somebody that doesnt know their ass from their elbow. Lock rings are good for when you first install a track hub. First time you sprint or climb a hill, youll torque it down far harder than you could ever even image applying backpressure. Make sure to use locking compound.
Seriously, this is a red herring, among the messengers Ive ridden with, my old fixie which was set up like that, and the few thousand of us on Usenet that gossip about such things, unscrewing a cog thats been properly torqued is Herculean and extremely rare. I mean its a risk, but Id worry more about getting a flat in a hailstorm with a family of brown bears chasing me, tbqph.
Quote from: maximusotterQuote from: funkychicken9000Id ideally like a track hub, as Ive been warned heavily against running a track cog without a lockring!?
Likely by somebody that doesnt know their ass from their elbow. Lock rings are good for when you first install a track hub. First time you sprint or climb a hill, youll torque it down far harder than you could ever even image applying backpressure. Make sure to use locking compound.
Seriously, this is a red herring, among the messengers Ive ridden with, my old fixie which was set up like that, and the few thousand of us on Usenet that gossip about such things, unscrewing a cog thats been properly torqued is Herculean and extremely rare. I mean its a risk, but Id worry more about getting a flat in a hailstorm with a family of brown bears chasing me, tbqph.
Fair enough :D Locking compound - is it anything special? I have threadlocker stuff used on nuts and bolts, presumably thats the stuff?
Im not sure how Im going to go about this. I have one spare modern wheel, a 28H front with ok-looking kit. I also have a set of very poo steelies at home, one with a normal FW thread. Soooo, I could either:
a) buy a 28H hub off ebay. Learn to build wheels with bits from the 28H wheel I already have, use that as a fixed wheel and keep the 32H open pro as a freehub spare.
or
b) keep the front wheel as a spare. Spend a week in the garage dissassembling and rebuilding the knackered steelies until I get good, then buy a reasonable 32H hub to build on to the open pro.
What ya reckon?
Locking compound like you got will work just dandy.
Heres the $20 solution:
Find an aluminum rim with the same inside diameter as the steelies. Slap it on top, tape together with electrical tape. Transfer spoke by spoke. True in fame of bike with a rubber band and pencil on stay to check true. Ive done it many times. Ghettotastic. :ptu: