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Title: adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: DEViANCE on June 20, 2008, 21:51:40 PM
just realised that my internet disconnects when my phone rings, what does that mean?
Title: adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: addictweb on June 20, 2008, 21:56:23 PM
Id think that your adsl filter isnt doin its job. New one should only be a few quid.
Title: adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: knighty on June 20, 2008, 21:56:57 PM
^^^ what he said ;)
Title: Re:adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: Eggtastico on June 20, 2008, 22:00:20 PM
^^^^What they said
Title: Re:adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: Eagle on June 20, 2008, 22:04:08 PM
Its a conspiracy!
Title: Re:adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: DEViANCE on June 20, 2008, 22:07:42 PM
Quote from: EagleIts a conspiracy!

yeah i think the fbi have tapped my phone
Title: Re:adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: Eagle on June 20, 2008, 22:08:25 PM
Yip yip.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/pbr/Yipyipphone.jpg)
Title: Re:adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: DEViANCE on June 20, 2008, 22:13:30 PM
lol.

could a faulty filter also cause an intermittent connection?
Title: adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: addictweb on June 20, 2008, 22:15:42 PM
yep!


(First again Woop!)
Title: adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: Maldonado on June 20, 2008, 22:35:33 PM
Your problem is likely to be caused by filters, but to narrow it down do the usual checks. Assuming your connection stabilises, reverse them one by one to find out whats causing the problem:

(1) Move router to master socket
(2) Unplug everything else from the phone line
(3) Swap the filter
(4) Swap the router
Title: Re:adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: DEViANCE on June 20, 2008, 22:36:41 PM
cheers ill get a new one tomorrow.

feel quite bad as ive been give the tiscali staff some serious ear bashing about my connection being on off on off all day, i told them the filter would be fine :P
Title: Re:adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: addictweb on June 20, 2008, 22:52:06 PM
Quote from: DEViANCEcheers ill get a new one tomorrow.

feel quite bad as ive been give the tiscali staff some serious ear bashing about my connection being on off on off all day, i told them the filter would be fine :P

I did the same a while back with Bulldog. My connection had been fine for ages so I didnt suspect anything my end. Turned out to be the cheap phone extension i had bought had randomly decayed. Bulldog had me on the phone insisting nothing was wrong my end.

Hopefully your problem is as simple. Maldonados steps (1 in particular) should prove it one way or another.
Title: Re:adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: Pete on June 20, 2008, 23:31:08 PM
Mine used to do this all the time til I replaced the filter. Buy a good one. Theres a shop that does them for about £7 and theyre good. The cheap ones are crap and aint worth saving 50p over.

Title: Re:adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: DEViANCE on June 21, 2008, 00:00:51 AM
Quote from: sdpMine used to do this all the time til I replaced the filter. Buy a good one. Theres a shop that does them for about £7 and theyre good. The cheap ones are crap and aint worth saving 50p over.


anywhere on the high street that does good ones?

maplin?
Title: Re:adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: Pete on June 21, 2008, 00:53:43 AM
iirc the best ones replace the faceplate on the socket.
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Post by: Serious on June 21, 2008, 09:45:29 AM
If you have another phone on the line try taking it off and switching filters.

TBH I have had the same problem, for months, but the line quality was bad too and there was irregular drops. I got the same thing from Talktalk, its a line filter.

Last week the whole lot went off, not even a dial tone. Despite complaining it took them nine days to get a BT engineer out and he fixed the line fault this morning!

Were still moving to Sky though :D
Title: adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: Maldonado on June 21, 2008, 13:22:16 PM
Id say 90% of the intermittent connection problems that i deal with are resolved by my 4 checks listed earlier. People always go in with the attitude "my equipment was fine before, so it must be fine now".

The best filters are a fitted faceplate, but youll have to fit this yourself. BT wont do it unless your line rate is <400kbit/s.
Title: Re:adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: Serious on June 21, 2008, 15:43:50 PM
yes, but occasionally the customer on the phone actually knows what they are talking about, unlike the service list monkey in India... ;)
Title: adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: Quixoticish on June 21, 2008, 16:06:46 PM
Quote from: MaldonadoId say 90% of the intermittent connection problems that i deal with are resolved by my 4 checks listed earlier. People always go in with the attitude "my equipment was fine before, so it must be fine now".

The best filters are a fitted faceplate, but youll have to fit this yourself. BT wont do it unless your line rate is <400kbit/s.

Wont BT charge you anyway for fitting a faceplate? My understanding was everything behind the master socket was their responsibility, but everything on the other side of it falls to you and if its a fault anywhere past the master socket you get charged.

Besides, you can pick up a fitted faceplate for £15.00 or less these days and it takes two minutes to install.
Title: adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: Maldonado on June 21, 2008, 16:10:43 PM
Quote from: Chris H
Quote from: MaldonadoId say 90% of the intermittent connection problems that i deal with are resolved by my 4 checks listed earlier. People always go in with the attitude "my equipment was fine before, so it must be fine now".

The best filters are a fitted faceplate, but youll have to fit this yourself. BT wont do it unless your line rate is <400kbit/s.

Wont BT charge you anyway for fitting a faceplate? My understanding was everything behind the master socket was their responsibility, but everything on the other side of it falls to you and if its a fault anywhere past the master socket you get charged.

Besides, you can pick up a fitted faceplate for £15.00 or less these days and it takes two minutes to install.

For ADSL Max, BT will accept a speed fault if your throughput is <400kbit/s. As part of the normal fault resolution procedure, they will fit one if they deem it necessary (and tbh most engineers will fit one anyway if theyre called out and you supply the necessary cups of tea and biscuits).

You are right in saying that everything behind the master soc ket is BTs responsibility, but that includes the master socket (if you have no test socket).
Title: adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: Quixoticish on June 21, 2008, 17:08:00 PM
Quote from: Maldonado
Quote from: Chris H
Quote from: MaldonadoId say 90% of the intermittent connection problems that i deal with are resolved by my 4 checks listed earlier. People always go in with the attitude "my equipment was fine before, so it must be fine now".

The best filters are a fitted faceplate, but youll have to fit this yourself. BT wont do it unless your line rate is <400kbit/s.

Wont BT charge you anyway for fitting a faceplate? My understanding was everything behind the master socket was their responsibility, but everything on the other side of it falls to you and if its a fault anywhere past the master socket you get charged.

Besides, you can pick up a fitted faceplate for £15.00 or less these days and it takes two minutes to install.

For ADSL Max, BT will accept a speed fault if your throughput is <400kbit/s. As part of the normal fault resolution procedure, they will fit one if they deem it necessary (and tbh most engineers will fit one anyway if theyre called out and you supply the necessary cups of tea and biscuits).

You are right in saying that everything behind the master soc ket is BTs responsibility, but that includes the master socket (if you have no test socket).

Ive been told in the past by BT that they wont service anything to do with the internet outside running a line check as long as the line is capable of working for voice communications, apparently they dont make any guarantees that it can be used for data. Admittedly this was 12 months ago now so things may have changed but the only time Ive ever seen BT fix anything relating to the internet is if you happen to use BT as your ISP, miraculously lines get installed quicker, engineers appear and you dont get charged, and the whole quality of service is far better.

Im a little paranoid about BT admittedly, once bitten twice shy.
Title: adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: Maldonado on June 21, 2008, 19:36:22 PM
Quote from: Chris H
Quote from: Maldonado
Quote from: Chris H
Quote from: MaldonadoId say 90% of the intermittent connection problems that i deal with are resolved by my 4 checks listed earlier. People always go in with the attitude "my equipment was fine before, so it must be fine now".

The best filters are a fitted faceplate, but youll have to fit this yourself. BT wont do it unless your line rate is <400kbit/s.

Wont BT charge you anyway for fitting a faceplate? My understanding was everything behind the master socket was their responsibility, but everything on the other side of it falls to you and if its a fault anywhere past the master socket you get charged.

Besides, you can pick up a fitted faceplate for £15.00 or less these days and it takes two minutes to install.

For ADSL Max, BT will accept a speed fault if your throughput is <400kbit/s. As part of the normal fault resolution procedure, they will fit one if they deem it necessary (and tbh most engineers will fit one anyway if theyre called out and you supply the necessary cups of tea and biscuits).

You are right in saying that everything behind the master soc ket is BTs responsibility, but that includes the master socket (if you have no test socket).

Ive been told in the past by BT that they wont service anything to do with the internet outside running a line check as long as the line is capable of working for voice communications, apparently they dont make any guarantees that it can be used for data. Admittedly this was 12 months ago now so things may have changed but the only time Ive ever seen BT fix anything relating to the internet is if you happen to use BT as your ISP, miraculously lines get installed quicker, engineers appear and you dont get charged, and the whole quality of service is far better.

Im a little paranoid about BT admittedly, once bitten twice shy.

Go with a decent ISP then mate. BT were broken up and its enforced that BT Wholesale (who provide the lines) do not favour BT Retail (who you buy your broadband from, if you go with BT). BT will do a lot more than you think with regards to line faults, so long as it is actually a line fault.
Title: Re:adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: DEViANCE on July 02, 2008, 18:31:36 PM
tried 3 new filters, cheap ones, but still new and it still disconnects when the phone rings and intermittently drops the connection for no reason.
Title: Re:adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: Beaker on July 02, 2008, 18:33:33 PM
Quote from: DEViANCEtried 3 new filters, cheap ones, but still new and it still disconnects when the phone rings and intermittently drops the connection for no reason.

odd question, are you using a DECT phone?
Title: Re:adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: DEViANCE on July 02, 2008, 18:43:45 PM
Quote from: Beaker
Quote from: DEViANCEtried 3 new filters, cheap ones, but still new and it still disconnects when the phone rings and intermittently drops the connection for no reason.

odd question, are you using a DECT phone?

whats one of those? a cordless one? no, just a basic wired one with built in answer machine
Title: Re:adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: soopahfly on July 02, 2008, 23:47:31 PM
Crack open that socket and remove the ring wire!
Title: adsl disconnects when phone rings
Post by: White Giant on July 03, 2008, 01:37:58 AM
Aye, ADSLWorld or something? Google should find it for you.