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Title: Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on May 23, 2008, 09:23:10 AM
We dont seem to have one.

Im waiting for the game to install and update and all that, so might as well start one.

What servers and characters is everyone on?


Zpyder: Chrys - Dark Templar - Dagon (PvE)
Chris H: Aelfwine - Bear Shaman - Aquilonia (PvP/RP)
Shaun: Iliena - Demonologist - Dagon
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: neXus on May 23, 2008, 09:28:32 AM
Sort of do:
http://www.tekforum.co.uk/posts/list/12455.page
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on May 23, 2008, 09:44:48 AM
Its a sort of, not an official. People in a month or twos time that decide to start playing and see what servers everyones on might not think to look in a thread abou a preorder cockup?

Plus theres a distinct lack of server/character info in that thread anyway. I intend to keep the top post updated with a list of Forum members, their characters, and the servers theyre on.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Bacon on May 23, 2008, 09:46:27 AM
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Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on May 23, 2008, 09:55:30 AM
I was kind of hoping the servers would be on at midnight last night (IE, the start of the 23rd?)

I was impressed with the account stuff. I expected it to be very slow from demand like LOTRO was. I just hope that if the servers come on at 6pm tonight that theyre not overwhelmed and have shoddy connections etc. I might be tempted to do an all nighter if the connections stable, if not, Ill start on Season 3 of BSG.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on May 23, 2008, 10:08:29 AM
Its installed an updating...the announcement says "EU servers are online" so I guess all is good!
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Bacon on May 23, 2008, 10:15:40 AM
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Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Bacon on May 23, 2008, 11:35:57 AM
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Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Eggtastico on May 23, 2008, 14:39:21 PM
looked at this.. looked good, like the crafting idea that doesnt start until lvl 40, looked around & found the Special Edition version

Looked outside it was sunny.

Thats me done with conan
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Quixoticish on May 23, 2008, 14:45:12 PM
Playing as Aelfwine, a nearly 40 Bear Shaman on Aquilonia, the EU PvP/RP server. Ive got to say Bear Shaman is probably the most enjoyable and rewarding class Ive played, but Ive played a lot of other classes through beta and I wouldnt recommend it as a first choice, there is a lot of micro management to get the most from your heals and dps. For a lot of fun I definitely recommend Barbarian, Ill be rolling another in the not too distant future.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: neXus on May 23, 2008, 14:55:29 PM
How is everyones hands and play times?
In wow you could play for hours and hours, I guess this is not the case here and when people are raiding I suppose you cant do as long or as much as you would in wow through the dynamic combat
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on May 23, 2008, 15:32:02 PM
At about level 8 on my Dark templar now. Not so sure whether I like the class atm, got suckered in by the leaching health, but it doesnt seem that effective tbh, better to just do damage and then rest outside of combat!

Server seems to be doing ok. It seems to get really laggy and then clear up again pretty quickly in cycles, which is annoying, but no where near as bad as Ive seen in LOTRO or WoW when it was just starting up.

The chat will take a bit of tweaking to filter stuff out, and the Tortage quests are starting to wear thin :(

Oh, and Ive just dug out my gel wrist/mouse pad Nexus
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: neXus on May 23, 2008, 15:52:09 PM
First UI mod for people:
http://werik.com/
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on May 24, 2008, 08:24:31 AM
Anyone have a list of the emotes in the game?
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: neXus on May 24, 2008, 09:01:05 AM
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=71103
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Quixoticish on May 24, 2008, 10:40:16 AM
I dont know if any of you are that high a level yet but avoid the Fields of the Dead, lots of people are crashing out in there and getting stuck and unable to log back into the game.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on May 24, 2008, 11:13:22 AM
Level 19...finishing up my quests before following the destiny thing through. Looking forward to getting into the world proper!
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: neXus on May 24, 2008, 12:29:07 PM
Everyone I know MMO and wow wise is playing this, I wish I was and also glad I am not at the same time, Things going on well here and I think I am happier then I have ever been so gg.

I think it is great people are enjoying it so much already and you have all the way to 80 to go and a lot of raiding, mount combat, guild city and advancement and battles and sieges etc.

When you think about it both AOC and More in regard to WAR they are offering a massive amount of content at the start while wow really did not have much and quick players were left waiting a fair while for anything more. Blizzard have been amazing since of course but interesting how these companies have taken note of many of the down points of wow and seemed to take clear focus of those aspects as their main appeal points.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Shaun on May 24, 2008, 16:56:25 PM
Quote from: zpyderAnyone have a list of the emotes in the game?

Type /emote then press tab.

Well I'm having a bit of a nightmare with my Internet connection so I'm stuck at lvl 20 and have not been able to play since Thursday as I get disconnected every 2 mins, which seems to lead to death near enough every time, just glad there isn't durability in the game lol

Im also on Dagon Zpyder :) Iliena - Demonologist.


Title: Age of Conan thread
Post by: Poison_UK on May 24, 2008, 18:08:43 PM
So whats the Grinding like, is it hit beyond go and kill 4,000,000 cute little critters and gratz you hit level 20? Something more clever hopefully?

A few of my friends have picked it up and I aint heard from them all day, so something must be good about this game...

Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Shaun on May 24, 2008, 18:52:42 PM
Its quests based rather than just grinding so far to 20 there has been more than enough quests so not needed to do any grinding at all.

The game has pointers on the map as where you have to go, so it's not running around looking for objectives, which is a really nice touch and improves the gaming experience IMO
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on May 24, 2008, 20:14:43 PM
I finally got out of Tortage woo.

But the City you go to, man...I was getting between 25-90 fps in Tortage, so it was totally playable and looking good. That framerate dropped to 5-25fps in the city. And then there was a mad amount of popping going on. Im hoping its a case of comp overload after a few hours playing etc. Also crashed the game so I took it as a sign to take a break. Will have to see about lowering some settings.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Shaun on May 24, 2008, 20:57:59 PM
Turn shadow off or use lower settings with it thats what seemed to boost my FPS most.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Bacon on May 25, 2008, 02:32:04 AM
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Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Shaun on May 25, 2008, 03:04:55 AM
I can understand what you're saying Bacon.... but I don't know there is just something about the "feel" of the game which wasn't there in WoW at the start.

 Guess we will have to wait till 80 to find out :)
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: neXus on May 25, 2008, 03:19:15 AM
Bacon, I thought you saw the guild cities you can create
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on May 25, 2008, 09:14:53 AM
I dont think there is a lack of content after 20...but the size of the areas getting bigger n all = more running around.

Also the zones arent quite as open as Id hoped, but maybe Im still in fairly newby areas. Its also a little more confusing as to travel and where to go I find :(

Bag space Im not too fussed about considering with WoW you used to start with like 12 slots as opposed to twenty something?

The banks will be working at some point I think?
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Quixoticish on May 25, 2008, 10:38:59 AM
Banks were taken down quickly as someone discovered a way to duplicate items using them. They will be patched back in ASAP I believe.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on May 25, 2008, 11:21:26 AM
Im liking how you can swim down waterfalls ><
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Bacon on May 25, 2008, 23:26:40 PM
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Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on May 26, 2008, 09:32:21 AM
The resources are interesting in being persistant. Quite cool how it makes you hunt for them and then you can place a map marker when you find them...

...but so open to abuse. I give it a week or two before lists are on google of resource locations.

Any idea if the fields of the dead are still bugged? Ive got a couple of quests Im either gonna have to ditch or hold onto until its safe to go in!
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Sweenster on May 27, 2008, 10:03:47 AM
It isnt a lack of content per se

It is the fact you level so fast that you dont really experience anything, I havent been power levelling at all yet am almost 40.

In wow that would have taken weeks, this has been done in less than a week of partial playing.

It just feels like they have made it fast levelling as they realise they havent enough content (quests etc) to keep people going at a level for long.

The fact I cant do any gathering because of the feat fixing bug, I am now playing a character where i can only level, which is beginning to get a bit repetitive.

1) Get quest
2) Look on map where i need to go.
3) Go to area
4) Kill everything in that area
5) Go back to quest giver
6) Go to step 1
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on May 27, 2008, 10:29:25 AM
But isnt the alternative to that to get the quests, do them, and then grind like mad for a week?

Im actually liking the fact that there is a surplus of quests. It means I can choose whether to quest in a group or not. I admit Im a little surprised at how fast im levelling but Im not complaining. Once I hit 40 and get my mount I think Ill ease off playing wise.

Maybe with the levelling theyre focusing on the end-game higher stuff, you get through fairly quickly and then it comes down to some high end instances, gathering resources for your guild, and attacking/defending guilds etc?
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Quixoticish on May 27, 2008, 10:45:28 AM
Quote from: zpyderThe resources are interesting in being persistant. Quite cool how it makes you hunt for them and then you can place a map marker when you find them...

...but so open to abuse. I give it a week or two before lists are on google of resource locations.

Any idea if the fields of the dead are still bugged? Ive got a couple of quests Im either gonna have to ditch or hold onto until its safe to go in!

The Fields of the Dead issue seems to be related to sound, if you disable sound completely from the launchpad you can still get by in there.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Sweenster on May 27, 2008, 11:11:46 AM
Quote from: zpyderMaybe with the levelling theyre focusing on the end-game higher stuff, you get through fairly quickly and then it comes down to some high end instances, gathering resources for your guild, and attacking/defending guilds etc?

ATM there is no end game, other than a bit of PvP which noone can do as noone has enough money to make a full PvE cities yet let alone a PvP keep.

There are alot of high level people who are complaining that they have nothing to do.

Yes they rushed there, but now they are stuck in limbo until something new comes out.

They needed another 6 months dev time, but they realised with WoW:WotLK and Warhammer coming out soon they needed to beat them.

As soon as the 30 days are up they are going to drop players like lead weights atm, yes most of them were probably going to go anyway, but there will be a large chunk who are just bored.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Eggtastico on May 27, 2008, 11:26:13 AM
been reading this thread.. find it quite odd that theres 80 character levels & people are well past 40 already.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: neXus on May 27, 2008, 11:33:49 AM
Quote from: Eggtasticobeen reading this thread.. find it quite odd that theres 80 character levels & people are well past 40 already.

Yeah, it slows down as you get to the further levels in an mmo but it does seem rather to quick and as people seem to be saying with all the bugs and no real end game while a good game they will probably loose a lot of players until they address many bugs and supply a lot of content sooner rather then later.

KOTOR MMO FTW, lol
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Quixoticish on May 27, 2008, 11:35:01 AM
I figured the only reason I was so high was because Id played beta through umpteen times so I could pretty much work through the quest chain blindfolded. Ive been playing quite a bit as well so those who are 80 must genuinely have no life. Thats their prerogative but if they get there quickly and find no other 80s to play with they have no-one to blame but themselves. Once I hit 80 I plan to spend all of my time apprencticing lower people in my guild. Wait.. whats that... doing something that has no personal gain? What an unusual concept in an MMO.

I can see a lot of developers just packing it in soon to be honest, there is so much whining in must be pretty soul destroying at times.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on May 27, 2008, 15:24:33 PM
Quote from: SweensterATM there is no end game, other than a bit of PvP which noone can do as noone has enough money to make a full PvE cities yet let alone a PvP keep.

The thing I see with the resource system is, though the resource areas are chocka with nodes, it wont take much for them to be constantly exhausted by having a single player sat at each node waiting for it to refresh...?

Thinking about it, WoW seems to be the only MMO game Ive played where Ive not really encountered much whining. Im not saying it doesnt happen, just that Ive not seen it. LOTRO and AoC I have had to put up with LOADS of whining (some from me as well I admit)

Im just hoping its early days syndrome and things will get ironed out soon. The combat system is cool and theres great potential if they sort out some of the issues mentioned. Only reason I am at level 35 atm in less than a week is because I finished uni and have been pretty hardcore. I think in WoW if I had spent the same time from scratch Id be at about level 25-30 so theres not that much difference. The main thing though is wow would have had a heck of a lot more needless grinding.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Bacon on May 27, 2008, 23:27:19 PM
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Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Quixoticish on May 27, 2008, 23:32:55 PM
Ive got to disagree with you there Bacon. Ive been around for quite a few MMO launches and this one has been by far the smoothest game to launch and the game with the most content that Ive seen at launch bar none. Obviously that is to be expected as new technology allows developers to push things forward somewhat but it really isnt anywhere near as bad as the whiners make out. Were hoping theyll up sticks and head back to World of Warcraft sometime soon so we can stop muting the OOC channel and get back to enjoying a rather good game that is suffering from a few minor teething problems.

If anyone reading does decide to give it a bash and youre on Aquilonia be sure to drop me a PM and Ill see you in game.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Shaun on May 28, 2008, 01:31:29 AM
I still haven't been able to play due to my connection, but I must say it all sounds a bit disappointing from you guys :(

Which is a real shame, as I thought the game got off to a good start.

I will level a character up to 80 more than likely before making my own mind up on the game, but it isnt looking great at the min :(
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on May 28, 2008, 10:06:59 AM
Resource wise, I am now in a guild, and the guild instance resource zone is chocka!
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Bacon on May 28, 2008, 10:55:30 AM
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Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Quixoticish on May 28, 2008, 15:11:06 PM
Quote from: Bacon
QuoteWere hoping theyll up sticks and head back to World of Warcraft

This is what will ruin the game.

Its going to turn out to be another Lotro, 100-150k subscribers with a niche slice of the market, surely this is not what any company wants.

Its the whiners that pay the bills, that keep the servers up.

Actually Funcom always stated from the word go that they werent looking to take on the big ones like World of Warcraft but instead felt there was a niche in MMOs that they were going to exploit. Of course now that theyve launched to such an astounding success Im sure that the PR people will be singing a very different tune, but that was certainly the initial objective.

At the end of the day World of Warcraft = kids and whiners = dumbing down the game to suit them rather than forcing them to play the game as it was originally intended. To be honest the fact that it has done so well at launch could end up being its downfall, throughout development people were very hesitant to make World of Warcraft comparisons as they are really at opposite ends of the MMO spectrum however now that the media has picked up on it and everyone and their auntie are making World of Warcraft comparisons it is only logical that the next step will be to dumb things down and remove things that make Age of Conan so intuitive in response to the rather vocal crowd whove jumped over from Warcraft in an effort to keep subscriber numbers high.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on May 28, 2008, 16:09:31 PM
Comparison of quest dialogue.

WoW:
"Please help me. We were on our way from xx to xx when we attacked by some vicious thugs. I barely made it out alive but I fear for my family, could you get xx so I can remember them?"

AoC:
"All xx must die. My family and I were on our way from xx when we were attacked. They held me and my partner captive and forced him to watch whilst they raped me. Then they killed him, and I barely escaped, but now I am pregnant...please skin them so that I can never forget their faces..."

Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Bacon on May 28, 2008, 16:46:03 PM
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Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Quixoticish on May 28, 2008, 17:40:32 PM
Quote from: BaconSuccess? As far as ive read, the facts are more, 400k people for EA/AOC Launch. Capped at 500K, however Funcom have been saying 1 million..

400k isnt the aim of Funcom, really if you believe that then..

Im not going to sit here and argue the toss. I could lvl from 1-50 again and document all the bugs, errors, missing content etc, that should have be found during beta, i mean did the beta testers actually do any testing and did funcom actually fix anything?

People are praising funcom for patches in the last couple of days? Praising for stuff that should have been fixed during beta.

It looks better for them to fix stuff now though right? Good publicity.. Sorry im just not living in the Conan dream world...

Bacon, were you there when World of Warcraft  launched? For weeks loads of us were running around with half a quest journal that could not be completed due to bugs, pets that could not be tamed, crashes that locked you out of the game when you zoned, huge lag spikes, but give the developers their due within a few months things had settled down and they had really put a lot of spit and polish into things as well as fixed almost all of the bugs.

Unless you have the same number of testers as you are going to have live subscribers you simply will not get all of the bugs. I have participated in so many MMOs from the first day now that this kind of thing just seems to be how it goes, they all have bugs that affect people to varying degrees, no one is any better than the other in this regard. What matters is whether they actually make an effort to fix the bugs as Blizzard did and as Funcom are trying to do at the moment, or whether they simply carpet over them a-la Star Wars Galaxies.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Bacon on May 28, 2008, 20:00:14 PM
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Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Bacon on May 28, 2008, 20:00:41 PM
Ill tell you what the problem is, the people they take on for beta testing these days are just playing for comparison to wow, they realise how crap these new mmos will potentially be and dont stick around to report bugs. Ive met 1 yes 1 beta tester so far, doesnt that say everything about AOC.
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Shaun on May 28, 2008, 20:14:42 PM
Bacon I think your being a bit unfair on AoC  to be fair you were not at Wow launch, I remember you starting to play, I was 40'ish by then and most of the early problems were sorted.
 I was a bit late in starting WoW myself,  as I wanted to know what other people though before buying the game when I made my mind up to give it a go, I couldn't find a copy after they took it off the shelves,  I ended up having to pay silly money on Ebay for a copy.

When I started the game it was a bit of a nightmare tbh the servers were really unstable, there were lots of bugs.
 
Really think you should give AoC a month or 2 longer to see how they deal with the problems :)
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Bacon on May 28, 2008, 22:17:48 PM
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Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Poison_UK on May 28, 2008, 23:15:50 PM
Quote from: BaconIll tell you what the problem is, the people they take on for beta testing these days are just playing for comparison to wow, they realise how crap these new mmos will potentially be and dont stick around to report bugs. Ive met 1 yes 1 beta tester so far, doesnt that say everything about AOC.

People like what they like. Really Warcraft got of to an amazing start, I played the Beta and still go back, same with DAoC. Hopefully the same with Warhammer, the BETA is currently soooo early on it tho that only one race on each side has been released, I enjoy bug checking always amuses me, a big plus factor on this is Im going to know how to get a head start on all the newbs early on, early money making ;)
Title: Age of Conan thread
Post by: Leon on June 06, 2008, 03:14:06 AM
Hehe going back to the early access to conan being messed up... I only just saw this

(http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20080519.jpg)
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: zpyder on June 15, 2008, 21:49:25 PM
I just cancelled my subs. Its not through any fault of AoC I hasten to add, its really the opposite. I felt myself getting suckered in again, and really, at the end of the day, do I want to be spending my every spare minute grinding in an MMO. No matter how different an MMORPG can be, the quests and content always end up being a mix of:

Go from A to B
Kill xx things
Collect xx items
Escort xx from A to B
Gather Resources
Create Items

I dont see any room for any variation upon this. The same rule applies to all games really, even things like doom etc, which is essentially go from A to B, collect items (keys) kill xx (boss)...

Rather than spend my whole summer playing this one game, I think Id rather play a mix, and maybe have a social life, which I dont think I would with any MMORPG, let alone this beast...
Title: Re:Age of Conan thread
Post by: Shaun on June 15, 2008, 23:39:24 PM
I have cancelled as well, more due to the fact I have had enough of MMO's for the time being.
 If I ever start playing them again I think I will be going back to WoW when the expansion comes out or might not even bother,
been playing MMO's for around 5 years now so maybe enough is enough.