Tablets have always been crap imo, the screens always get grubby and theyve always been a pain to use with Windows ...if Apple could bang one out for £400-500 itd be worth it but £800-1000 for a fancy web browsing machine is rubbish.
http://www.rethink-wireless.com/2010/01/27/apples-tablet-debuts-today-final-rumor-round-up.htm
ive liked the look of these since the rumour about them started..
Id be tempted to get one if they are around the £300 mark
Im interested to see what audience these are targeting. I cant really see a gap, possibly portable media/ebook but i dont think the battery will be long enough and the screen too big.
Whatever it is it will sell like hotcakes and be heralded as the best invention ever.
Bet its £500+ for a base model
Ive had a Fujitsu Tablet PC for work, and while useful it wasnt really much cop to use off the stand it sat on while I was in the office.
Tablet PCs have been around for YEARS, and TBH they arent much good for anything beyond stock-taking and some specialist purposes.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/27/south_african_police_apple_tablet_photos/
forget the iPhone comparisons, I cant find any mentions of using it for calls. So what we have is an oversized iPod Touch. Wonderful, at least itll make it even easier to spot the self-important twats.
Stupid name. k, its a play on iPod but;
(http://www.harringtonvending.com/images/Always.jpg)
if**king hate the i[Product] naming convention.
Quote from: PeteStupid name. k, its a play on iPod but;
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if**king hate the i[Product] naming convention.
Im waiting for iLube, sold as an accessory when you go into the store and buy something. "iLube, eases the pain of the iF*cking were gonig to give your credit card".
Prices for the iPad, a touchscreen tablet computer unveiled by Apple on Wednesday,
will start at $499 and the new device will start shipping worldwide in 60 days, the company said.
The "iPad will be available in late March worldwide for a suggested retail price of 499 dollars for the 16GB (gigabyte) model,
599 dollars for the 32GB model,
699 dollars for the 64GB model," an Apple statement said.
"The Wi-Fi + 3G models of iPad will be available in April in the US and selected countries
for a suggested retail price of 629 dollars for the 16GB model,
729 dollars for the 32GB model and
829 dollars for the 64GB model."
If they do manage to get it out at a REASONABLE PRICE the apple iPad is going to kill most of the ebooks off instantly (to me these have been a dead end product anyway). Its size could make it a definite enemy to most larger portable media players and possibly intrude on the netbooks too, although to do well there it would need some form of integral word processor facility. Definitely interesting, even at £400 I can see them flying off the shelves to apple fans.
BBC item includes video
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8483654.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8484031.stm
But dont rule out other companies doing the same thing this year, I suspect the mini-tablet pc will be the in thing...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8445081.stm
Theyll sell like hotcakes but they should have bundled it with the stand and keyboard imo - anyone whos used a touchscreen/notebook combo knows there are only a few occasions where using the touchscreen is more practical and less annoying than using the keyboard.
Tablet technology is far from new - it hasnt taken off because in practice using a touchscreen isnt that ergonomic except in a few niche cases.
Quote from: PeteStupid name. k, its a play on iPod but;
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if**king hate the i[Product] naming convention.
Nooo, you dont want to use one of those, use an
ipad instead! rather fun IMO...
Course they could end up getting WWF style charity sued by...
http://ipad.org.uk/ipad/index.php
To be honest if the screen is easily visible in sunlight and the thing has enough processing power to handle some graphics and geospatial processing, itd be very very useful in habitat surveying. Ive got a few hundred A4 printouts that I was pretty much drawing on in the field, to be able to draw straight onto the tablet, delete/undo mistakes, and then import it into the proper GIS applications on a desktop would save many, many hours (itd cut at least 50% of the manhours tbh - It took me 2 days to fully digitise 3 days worth of surveying last summer)
Quote from: EggtasticoPrices for the iPad, a touchscreen tablet computer unveiled by Apple on Wednesday,
will start at $499 and the new device will start shipping worldwide in 60 days, the company said.
The "iPad will be available in late March worldwide for a suggested retail price of 499 dollars for the 16GB (gigabyte) model,
599 dollars for the 32GB model,
699 dollars for the 64GB model," an Apple statement said.
"The Wi-Fi + 3G models of iPad will be available in April in the US and selected countries
for a suggested retail price of 629 dollars for the 16GB model,
729 dollars for the 32GB model and
829 dollars for the 64GB model."
All this was quoted earlier by Engadget who were the same people to put a price on information offered on the latest Apple product pre any confirmation they were making it.
I think the offer was $200k for Engadget/Gawker to get their hands on one for a day to look over it, its funny cus in the end Apple slapped them with a cease and desist which indirectly confirmed the products existence.
Quote from: SeriousIf they do manage to get it out at a REASONABLE PRICE the apple iPad is going to kill most of the ebooks off instantly (to me these have been a dead end product anyway). Its size could make it a definite enemy to most larger portable media players and possibly intrude on the netbooks too, although to do well there it would need some form of integral word processor facility. Definitely interesting, even at £400 I can see them flying off the shelves to apple fans.
BBC item includes video
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8483654.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8484031.stm
But dont rule out other companies doing the same thing this year, I suspect the mini-tablet pc will be the in thing...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8445081.stm
HP announced their "Slate" offering several days ago i believe
Im thoroughly dissapointed with it, Its the most pointless thing I could of think off when I asked myself what I wouldnt want them to do with it. But oh yes, its a giant Ipod Touch with a tweaked OS and apps on steroids.
I dont understand the hype? There have been tablets since the 1990s.
Well, essentially there have been tablets since the 1970s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGG1gQiVhCk&feature=sub
Quote from: Peteif**king hate the i[Product] naming convention.
iPaid, iPeed, iPood... iPad! :P
Meh, that is what I thought. I looks great, really cool tech, Really nice gadget but Nah.
Not enough storage space, No camera, 3G stuff is meh and the cost is meh.
3rd version will be really cool and if you not got laptop/smartphone combo then this is something you should really look at. I think some of the pc based ones coming are and will do a better job.
All the "its light" they keep saying made me laugh. The first hands on by people like engadget and they all say it is heavier then they thought it would be. It probably is the weight it would expectantly be along with other similar devices but the label apple put on it giving people the wrong impression.
Quote from: MarkI dont understand the hype? There have been tablets since the 1990s.
Well, essentially there have been tablets since the 1970s
Light weight and relatively low price might make a difference. Main questions are connectivity, memory and processing power, get those right and the price and they will sell fast. Heck, I might even buy one.
Quote from: SeriousQuote from: MarkI dont understand the hype? There have been tablets since the 1990s.
Well, essentially there have been tablets since the 1970s
Light weight and relatively low price might make a difference. Main questions are connectivity, memory and processing power, get those right and the price and they will sell fast. Heck, I might even buy one.
They did not nail it though :(
Very nearly, 3rd gen will be something worth thinking about getting.
No multitasking ... at all.
No flash.
No USB.
No proper OS (iphone 3.2)
No built in stand.
No keyboard.
Not small enought to carry every day.
Not powerful enough to take on holiday.
No 3G on cheaper models.
No thanks.
Quote from: sexytwNo multitasking ... at all.
No flash.
No USB.
No proper OS (iphone 3.2)
No built in stand.
No keyboard.
Not small enought to carry every day.
Not powerful enough to take on holiday.
No 3G on cheaper models.
No thanks.
its been rushed through because of the popularity of the iphone/itouch & somthing to pitch up against Amazon kindle
ah, so theyre marketing it as a white reader.
That makes more sense.
Quote from: sexytwNo multitasking ... at all.
No flash.
No USB.
No proper OS (iphone 3.2)
No built in stand.
No keyboard.
Not small enought to carry every day.
Not powerful enough to take on holiday.
No 3G on cheaper models.
No thanks.
Its a tablet they do not have keyboards. And your wrong here though. You can get a dock and it works with any apple keyboard and has the on screen touch keyboard pop up when you need it.
Stand - Daft to see these on these things, they do not need it built in.
No 3G on cheaper models is not a thing to moan about
Not small enough to carry? The cases at least for it like folders are very nice and certainly something you can carry around very easily.
All the other stuff and other issues are dam right about but those bits are wrong to gripe about.
Quote from: EggtasticoQuote from: sexytwNo multitasking ... at all.
No flash.
No USB.
No proper OS (iphone 3.2)
No built in stand.
No keyboard.
Not small enought to carry every day.
Not powerful enough to take on holiday.
No 3G on cheaper models.
No thanks.
its been rushed through because of the popularity of the iphone/itouch & somthing to pitch up against Amazon kindle
No, it is a label media have put on it. It is to get into the market after the announcement by PC based vendors of tablets coming out soon and to pip them at the post. Acer, HP and a couple of others look very apple like, very nice, windows based and come with a hell of a lot more and all multi-touch as well.
2001 called. They want their tablet pc back.
This is going to make me look like a tool, but whats the point of tablets? Surely a laptop is always going to be better? Or even the iphone for some things?
The graphic/touch screen ability. So for people like me doing surveys in the field its not practical to have a laptop and mouse etc, but if I could use a stylus to sketch survey areas on a tablet, thatd be cool.
I think youre all missing the point. Its not about using the newest or most innovative technology; its about bringing something a bit different to the normal, everyday household. I always use the laptop or netbook to check my e-mails, do a bit of surfing and suchlike whilst sat on the sofa, if I need to google something or check the TV guide, something like that. And its a pain to turn it on and have to deal with either a small screen and small keyboard or something that is incredibly uncomfortable to loaf around with.
Tablets like this a great for bringing the web downstairs as laptops and netbooks are just too fiddly and fussy to be bothered with half of the time. Whilst I wont be picking up the iPad Ill certainly be picking up one of the Windows based alternatives sometime this year.
I see a use for it in my life because its more intuitive, natural, fun and far more comfortable than using a laptop to do exactly the same thing. You guys may not see a use for it and may harp on about it using old technology that has been around for years, but I guarantee it will fly off the shelves and be a future classic like the iPod and iPhone simply on the basis that it enters the collective conciousness of many more people than the less mainstream alternatives.
I agree, i can see its use as a coffee table device. But im not sure that justifies the price nor makes up for its omissions and failings.
It was touted as a revolution by the hype, its not a revolution, the reason being it doesnt make life any simpler. It doesnt replace existing devices, its just another device that does the same thing.
It will sell well because Apple have priced it well (depending on its UK price) but it wont compare to the ipod and iphone sales success.
How long before an interface is made that streams the digital programme planner for your tv to the iPad or whatever it is you use so rather than having to use the fiddly remote controls, you have a touch interface like on phones with the ability to tap in and out of things and scroll by sliding your finger across the screen. THAT would be an instant use, and pretty much guartantee a niche market for the most expensive TV remote...
Sounds a bit like this (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Advanced-Universal-Control/dp/B001M5U5AC/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1264776693&sr=8-7)
I think thats a great idea, would be possible as well, except for the fact the iPad doesnt have an IR port.
Getting the tv guide is easy enough from EPGs then you could just emulate IR button presses to get the set top box to change channel.
A more integrated model would require cooperation from the TV/set top box manufacturers which have so far seemed slow to integrate new technologies.
I still dont know why set top boxes dont integrate network media players. All the hardware is there already.
I must be being thick but what possible use are the cheaper ones without 3G? Is there wifi on these?
If they dont have either then its a bloody expensive digital photo frame tbh.
Yeh, wifi and bluetooth on all models.
Its a media player, ebook reader, web browser, email client, App playing device with a nice interface and long battery life (apparently).
Quote from: zpyderHow long before an interface is made that streams the digital programme planner for your tv to the iPad or whatever it is you use so rather than having to use the fiddly remote controls, you have a touch interface like on phones with the ability to tap in and out of things and scroll by sliding your finger across the screen. THAT would be an instant use, and pretty much guartantee a niche market for the most expensive TV remote...
youre talking about airmouse. it works tother way round, which is far better proposition now ive lashed massive money on a very good tv screen.
ipod as a mouse on your media centre streaming to your hdtv.
erm, scuse me everyone, but wtf has no-one mentioned sensible size high-res pr0n that I can take everywhere?
Quote from: neXusQuote from: EggtasticoQuote from: sexytwNo multitasking ... at all.
No flash.
No USB.
No proper OS (iphone 3.2)
No built in stand.
No keyboard.
Not small enought to carry every day.
Not powerful enough to take on holiday.
No 3G on cheaper models.
No thanks.
its been rushed through because of the popularity of the iphone/itouch & somthing to pitch up against Amazon kindle
No, it is a label media have put on it. It is to get into the market after the announcement by PC based vendors of tablets coming out soon and to pip them at the post. Acer, HP and a couple of others look very apple like, very nice, windows based and come with a hell of a lot more and all multi-touch as well.
except both dell & HP have beaten them to a release date
Quote from: Clockd 0NeI must be being thick but what possible use are the cheaper ones without 3G? Is there wifi on these?
If they dont have either then its a bloody expensive digital photo frame tbh.
book reader, film viewer, music player, etc, etc.
Also should be compatible with most, if not all, the apps in the Apple store. So its got at least one Word Processor, database and spreadsheet available.
The ones with the Nvidia Tegra 2 chip will be better by a mile as long as they look nice and a good size.
Weve all seen it in other guises, but heres Hitler on the iPad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQnT0zp8Ya4&feature=popular
(http://i.imgur.com/oRffH.jpg)
Will they do a magnet mount to stick it in to the fridge?
QuoteApple Tablet
Could someone remind me how we are supposed to swallow it again?
Quote from: SeriousQuoteApple Tablet
Could someone remind me how we are supposed to swallow it again?
Youre not supposed to swallow it, its a suppository, because they like to ream your arse.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/01/ipad-therefore-iwant-why-idunno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEs7Bu9c2GI
http://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2010/2/2/ipad-run-windows-7-thanks-citrix-xenapp/
Quote from: BeakerQuote from: SeriousQuoteApple Tablet
Could someone remind me how we are supposed to swallow it again?
Youre not supposed to swallow it, its a suppository, because they like to ream your arse.
Youre probably right there.
Although they tend to prefer to ream your wallet.
Quote from: Petehttp://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2010/2/2/ipad-run-windows-7-thanks-citrix-xenapp/
I love the fact that in order to make it a useful and productive tool they have to install Windows 7 and welcome multitasking in through the back door :lol:
(http://i.imgur.com/ul3mF.jpg)
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thats the best one Ive seen yet!
I wonder if theres going to be one which shoots fireballs? I would buy an Ipad which shot fireballs! or one which could fly.....
(http://s1.b3ta.com/host/creative/1279/1264637379/blutack.jpg)
Just so you know it may come with a camera when released. IF it gets released mind, FCC still not approved it yet.