Hi all,
Pointed in this direction by an existing member when talking to him about problems I'm experiencing on MW2 at the moment. It would appear its related somewhat to the custom firmware talked about the forum already. Thought i would add to the discussion. Anyway heres what happened:
Signed into PSN last night and started MW2. Had about 3 games where i was getting mullered with like 4 kills and 27 deaths (I'm not great but I'm not that bad either!!!) I thought it was odd but I put it down to being tired and a little off the ball, although now I think about it, I've had some really bad games this week (probably starting monday).
Then, I get into a Domination match and within 20 secs, everybody's game paused. At this point I hear some 13 year old mockney wideboys getting excited and screaming "its 'appening! its 'appening!". A message appears on my screen "unlocking challenges 10/100", then it goes to 20/100, 30/100 etc etc. It gets to 100/100 and then the game resumes. About 5 mins later I'm kicked out of the game and recieve a message saying game terminated as there is security issues with host.
I went into Barracks and ALL my challenges were complete, even Riot shield and I've never even used the Riot Shield!!! It has also levelled me up to 70 on 2nd prestige (i was 69 on 2nd prestige so not too far).
I've had a quick google of the problem and found this post on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/PS3/comments/f031u/cod_mw2_glitched_i_went_from_level_35_to_70_with/.compact?sort=new (http://www.reddit.com/r/PS3/comments/f031u/cod_mw2_glitched_i_went_from_level_35_to_70_with/.compact?sort=new)
It would appear that the hacking with the custom firmware has started and from reading the reddit link its only going to get worse. It makes my P*ss boil, whats the point?! They've ruined a perfectly good game and rendered it unusable for me now because eveytime i get shot I'll be thinking "Cheating B*stard - Using aim bots" whether they are cheating or not.
Is this going to be the norm for PS3 online titles now? Are other titles like black ops going to be affected or is it just because MW2 isnt supported by IW with patches anymore that make it more vulnerable. Will i get away with going back to MW1 (still a great game!) or will that have gone the same way?
Do you think they will have implement anti cheat software like Steam had to with Counterstrike back in the day?
Sorry for war and peace on the first post!!!
Andy
I doubt Sony will use software like Punkbuster, they will iron out this massive crease on their own, just a shame the actions of a few will ruin it for the rest on the older games but unless they are supported/updated regularly i reckon your going to see this happening quite often.
Personally i don't bother playing PS3 online, thats what PC is for. :D
I used to play Counterstrike on the PC loads... Hell It nearly cost me a degree!!!!
But I find the PS3 so much easier to get into quickly. Load times seem to be quicker and getting into servers is easier with them all being hosted by the users and not remote like they used to be on CS. It's a while since i've gamed on a PC so things might have change but it was never possible to have a "quick 15 mins" because it took 10 mins to get into a match!
I also thought up until now that the PS3 might be less influenced by the hackers. It was always a big problem before the likes of Punkbuster (and even then i can remember getting shot through walls from impossible angles) on the PC.
Oh well, it was nice while it lasted. I agree with the comment of a few ruining it for the rest. It's a shame. It's also ironic that the ones that ruined it for me last night didnt sound old enough to have purchased the game in the first place.
Andy
i hope sony stamp this out quick. i'd hate to lose the only stress release i've got!!! i'd have to go back to drinking copious amounts of booze.
I played WOW for around 5 years i know what its like to be addicted to games. :)
The reason i purchased PS3/XBOX360 is for the same fact that you can get into the games quicker and put them down quicker when you need to, but tbh i'm not a massive fan of FPS on consoles cus i can't use the controllers properly, i am more of a Keyboard and Mouse person.
It is ironic and also moronic but these people do not realise a) the harm they are causing b) that there is strong potential they will get banned and their consoles bricked.
I reckon they will use a steam/punkbuster esque system as touched upon that checks files eventually, but evidently they're already too slow, knowing sony they will rush something out that breaks something else :thumbdown:
To be honest they should be able to tell who executed these dodgy codes and just ban the PSN ID, but I doubt they can do much else, if they ban the console ID, a tool will come along probably to change it.
Proper pants down stuff for Sony.
M$ manage to keep majority of live clear so it is possible. Sony just need to pull a finger out.
Quote from: Dooms on January 13, 2011, 12:00:48 PM
M$ manage to keep majority of live clear so it is possible. Sony just need to pull a finger out.
I think a lot of kiddies are going to be very upset soon, it surely can't be hard to check for certain files and then ban the lot in terms with the user agreement.
But yeah, Sony really need to get on with it.
Quote from: Dooms on January 13, 2011, 12:00:48 PM
M$ manage to keep majority of live clear so it is possible. Sony just need to pull a finger out.
Hows that? By initiating a banning wave once a year?
Quote from: Bacon on January 13, 2011, 12:29:25 PM
Hows that? By initiating a banning wave once a year?
Well it works :)
Quote from: Bacon on January 13, 2011, 11:34:31 AM
that there is strong potential they will get banned and their consoles bricked.
I really hope so. Its not fair really. Kids that age have far more time for practice due to not having jobs/a house to maintain so they are all better than me :(.
Quote from: andy100short on January 13, 2011, 12:48:12 PM
Quote from: Bacon on January 13, 2011, 11:34:31 AM
that there is strong potential they will get banned and their consoles bricked.
I really hope so. Its not fair really. Kids that age have far more time for practice due to not having jobs/a house to maintain so they are all better than me :(.
Yeah but they're easy pickings to ridicule, just go straight for the jugular and call their parents irresponsible crackheads and ask them when they're on Jeremy Kyle :D
Quote from: matt5cott on January 13, 2011, 12:53:31 PM
Quote from: andy100short on January 13, 2011, 12:48:12 PM
Quote from: Bacon on January 13, 2011, 11:34:31 AM
that there is strong potential they will get banned and their consoles bricked.
I really hope so. Its not fair really. Kids that age have far more time for practice due to not having jobs/a house to maintain so they are all better than me :(.
Yeah but they're easy pickings to ridicule, just go straight for the jugular and call their parents irresponsible crackheads and ask them when they're on Jeremy Kyle :D
ahahahahaha, thats awesome! Never even thought of that! I have asked a few if it wasnt past their bedtime but never thought of insulting the 'rents!
Although, that could be dangerous now. There is a post on that reddit forum of someone who ended up on rank 1 after sending a hacker a message through the PSN. Dont know how they would do this though? Surely that info is held on the server and is updated when you log in? ???
Quote from: Dooms on January 13, 2011, 12:43:12 PM
Quote from: Bacon on January 13, 2011, 12:29:25 PM
Hows that? By initiating a banning wave once a year?
Well it works :)
I would assume those in the know disconnect their 360s from Online until a new firmware arrives.
Quote from: Bacon on January 13, 2011, 13:26:03 PM
I would assume those in the know disconnect their 360s from Online until a new firmware arrives.
Yes it gets them around the problem for a time but M$ are never very mouthy over when the ban wave is coming - in fact I've never read anything about it until its happened and I follow xbox scene and few other sites often.
Even if they do think "oh its about time to get banned, will disconnect and wait for patch" it means we get a bit of them not online :P
Quote from: Dooms on January 13, 2011, 14:05:46 PM
Quote from: Bacon on January 13, 2011, 13:26:03 PM
I would assume those in the know disconnect their 360s from Online until a new firmware arrives.
Yes it gets them around the problem for a time but M$ are never very mouthy over when the ban wave is coming - in fact I've never read anything about it until its happened and I follow xbox scene and few other sites often.
Even if they do think "oh its about time to get banned, will disconnect and wait for patch" it means we get a bit of them not online :P
November ish, a big update comes and with it comes the Ban Hammer, its widely reported across the net, so its not exactly a secret, just follow Kotaku.
Lets get back to the issue at hand here.
The homebrew that's out there at the moment just isn't advanced enough to do this. All there is pretty much is crappy space shooters, a NES emulator and a half working backup manager.
Something else is afoot.
It appears to be an issue wth Hacked Lobby's on PSN. You can read more here (http://www.community.eu.playstation.com/t5/Call-of-Duty/MW2-lobby-s-hacked/td-p/12196850) or just browse the rest of that forum for plenty more threads.
Makes me kinda glad I have this on the 360 :D
http://channel.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=28458
QuoteSony Computer Entertainment America has filed a lawsuit against a group of hackers it alleges have hacked the PlayStation 3 in order to circumvent its 'protection measures' and subsequently 'trafficked' the ability to do so.
The chief defendant in the suit is George Hotz, otherwise known as Geohot, who became famous for his iPhone and iPod hacking exploits. But there are several others, many of which Sony hasn't specified a name for, but who all apparently collaborated in a group called fail0verflow. You can see the full lawsuit document below.
Speaking to the BBC, Hotz said: "I would expect a company that prides itself on intellectual property to be well versed in the provisions of the law, so I am disappointed in Sony's current action. I have spoken with legal counsel and I feel comfortable that Sony's action against me doesn't have any basis."
It seems Hotz and the group got hold of secret codes that identify software as legitimate to the PS3. These, in theory, could then be attached to pirated software and games, allowing them to run on the system.
According to the Guardian, the group's defence will probably centre on the precedent of 'fair use' established last year. In other words, this is just good, old-fashioned jail-breaking, and thus OK. Sony seems to want to re-establish precedent by making jail-breaking of its PS3 software illegal
Latest on the Sony vs Geohot story
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/14/geohot-wins-round-one-against-sony-we-think-sceas-restrainin/