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Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: White Giant on March 03, 2008, 08:32:14 AM
Wow, dunno whats happened but my net speed is finally decent. Only noticed when a download went to 850kb/s.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/241453264.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Lets hope it lasts.
Title: Re:Decent net speed!
Post by: neXus on March 03, 2008, 08:38:34 AM
Cool
I got 9mb line here in NZ but blasted thing is messed up at the mo with a fixed 50kbps or less download rate although they have fixed my up which is now 860kbps :) Just need my down sorted
Title: Re:Decent net speed!
Post by: Liam on March 03, 2008, 09:16:33 AM
This is my Net speed at work :D

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/241462411.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Liam
Title: Re:Decent net speed!
Post by: filbert on March 03, 2008, 09:18:57 AM
I used to be on virgin 20mb, but they stopped my deal and I couldnt afford the full price, so I went down to 2mb.
I think they forgot to change it, been the same for 2 months now :rock:

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/241462648.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Title: Re:Decent net speed!
Post by: DEViANCE on March 03, 2008, 09:20:02 AM
 :shock:  i thought mine was fast
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: bear on March 03, 2008, 09:31:33 AM
So, so during daytime at home ( with µTorrent and a few pages running though :) )

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/241465208.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/241465451.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Would like to have the speed I have at work though

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/237262375.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)


Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: Mardoni on March 03, 2008, 09:57:22 AM
Just done this test (was on Skype at the time):

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/241470956.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)


Loving NTL 20mb.


Oh btw, I think the Maidenhead server has a 10mb limit as I never get any better than this:
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/241471598.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

and Maidenhead is only a couple of miles down the road :s
Title: Re:Decent net speed!
Post by: Rob on March 03, 2008, 11:57:14 AM
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/241499065.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: bear on March 03, 2008, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: NimrodJust done this test (was on Skype at the time):






Loving NTL 20mb.



Nice download but upload not very good at all  !!!
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: Mardoni on March 03, 2008, 12:13:12 PM
The upload is poop :(
Its a problem with the Cable network, its designed for delivery of information and not publishing; still at least Im not stuck on dial-up :D

Quote from: Rob

Now either thats just plain wrong or your Paintshop skills are fantastic ;) :)

edit:
Just noticed thats probably a SuperJanet connection; god damn I miss being at Uni :p
Title: Re:Decent net speed!
Post by: soopahfly on March 03, 2008, 12:13:14 PM
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/241503070.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

First time ive ever seen that speed!
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: Mardoni on March 03, 2008, 12:16:12 PM
What the hell is that upload :o
Are you on Virigin ADSL ? I didnt think the Cable service had upload lower than 512k ?
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: bear on March 03, 2008, 12:26:04 PM
Quote from: NimrodThe upload is poop :(
Its a problem with the Cable network, its designed for delivery of information and not publishing; still at least Im not stuck on dial-up :D

Quote from: Rob

Now either thats just plain wrong or your Paintshop skills are fantastic ;) :)

edit:
Just noticed thats probably a SuperJanet connection; god damn I miss being at Uni :p

What type is the cable ? is it fibre ? is synchronous or asynchronous ?
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: filbert on March 03, 2008, 12:26:05 PM
  -)
Quote from: NimrodJust done this test (was on Skype at the time):




Loving NTL 20mb.


Oh btw, I think the Maidenhead server has a 10mb limit as I never get any better than this:


and Maidenhead is only a couple of miles down the road :s

I allways use maidenhead as thats the yellow one, never a problem for me,
just done one at london



Not bad for 2mb  -)
Title: Re:Decent net speed!
Post by: filbert on March 03, 2008, 12:28:57 PM
ha sittingbourne, just done that

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/241506896.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

And Im through a router, does that slow it down?
Title: Re:Decent net speed!
Post by: soopahfly on March 03, 2008, 12:50:19 PM
Im yeolde ADSL.
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: Leon on March 03, 2008, 12:58:50 PM
Had to help my neighbour update his tomtom over the weekend... hes still on Windows 95 and Dialup!!! 22mb over dialup is scary slow, forgot how bad it is :P

TalkTalk seem to keep throttling my download speeds, last time I was getting a massive 10ksec :D
Title: Re:Decent net speed!
Post by: soopahfly on March 03, 2008, 13:07:43 PM
Leave talktalk before they introduce PHORM.
Its supposed to be rolling out this month.  All your surfing habits will be fed to a company in china who will serve you with adverts.
Title: Re:Decent net speed!
Post by: Serious on March 03, 2008, 13:30:41 PM
Quote from: soopahflyLeave talktalk before they introduce PHORM.
Its supposed to be rolling out this month.  All your surfing habits will be fed to a company in china who will serve you with adverts.

Not the only one, BT andVirgin are going to use it too. I dont use their site much, perhaps once every couple of months, so I dont have any idea of how they could send me adverts.
Title: Re:Decent net speed!
Post by: soopahfly on March 03, 2008, 13:40:08 PM
Its a few topics down.

All your surfing habits go to this company in china, who claim to ignore any string over 3 digits long.  The company has a history of dodgy spyware.  It isnt based on your computer.  PHORM pay the ISP to put their hardware in their datacentres.  All traffic gets passed through this so they can choice pick words and phrases and send you text based ads to your browser.  Like the intellitxt ones some sites use.  Sure, you can probably block the site on your pc, but because its back end ISP stuff its still getting monitored.  Even when you opt out, your data is still passed but you dont see the ads.

Quote1. All your browsing (URLs, content but not https) is routed via Phorms server. Presumably due to bandwidth requirements its physically there in the ISP datacentre (like a wiretap).

2. Phorms server sends a unique cookie to your browser, analyses your web traffic and "categorises" that browser in real-time based on your surfing habits (actually 3x an hour, maybe). It then associates your browser ID with your assigned "category".

3. The OIX database (ad server?) then watches for that cookie ID and injects "relevant" ads into your http data stream based on your current category - either replacing existing ads or even inserting new ones (not entirely clear on this). It may also pass on your cookie ID and category to third parties to that they can do the advertising directly.

So no, forget any swanky DNS tricks or ad blocking. What the ISPs appear to be doing is allowing a trusted (hah!) third party access to all your surfing content. Phorm claim this "cannot be used to identify you because its anonymous and we ignore phone numbers and email addresses and IP addresses". Bo||ox. Just one snapshot of a non-https gmail session is enough to identify anyone...

example.
The anonomisation of IP addresses refers to the intention (yes, intention, not fact) that the ISPs and Phorm will not deliberately produce a dataset that states Serious has been looking at leather underwear websites (as a hypothetical example).

On the automated injection servers, website requests from the IP address associated with your account will be injected with ads for leather underwear and associated items. They will also produce statistics (for future planning) which say things like only 2% of customers look at leather underwear sites, and then only on Friday evening.

This is all perfectly reasonable from a perspective of running and planning the business. See the final paragraph however.

Even if you are on dial-up and get a dynamic IP address, the ISP associates that IP address with your account. Do a DNS lookup on your IP address and youll find something like customer-xyz-townname-region-node.ISP.com. This record is maintained (with time and date stamps) associated with yoru unique account number, so the ISP can provide it to the authorities if they want to track criminal activities.

A mate has cable broadband and his router (on 24/7) has kept an IP lease active and constant for over a year now on the same IP address. It doesnt matter, the ISP knows who has had which IP address at what time and date.

So, your web surfing activities are associated with your account id and the targeted ads are sent to whatever IP address is assigned to you at the time. Which is why your kids may get ads for adult entertainment or sports cars or whatever. Also if the authorities ever make it illegal to be in possession of leather underwear, they will know who to go looking for.


I ask you.  How can it be anonymous and targeted?
BT are hiding it under webwise, saying it cuts down on fraud.  So does any internet security package worth its salt.
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: Leon on March 03, 2008, 13:48:40 PM
Hmmm thats interesting, doesnt really bother me as all I actually go on webwise these days is Tekforums, Band Forums, Guild Forums, WoW and other game site sites :)

Off to Oz in a week and will be gone for upto a year, once Im back I might have to look into moving anyway as the slowness is driving me nuts (and they keep threatening to cut me off). Shame I cant get cable :(
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: White Giant on March 04, 2008, 08:19:07 AM
Just tested again, and got a similar result, looks promising.

Shame about the limits on torrents though :(
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: Beaker on March 04, 2008, 09:06:12 AM
Quote from: White GiantJust tested again, and got a similar result, looks promising.

Shame about the limits on torrents though :(

Limits? what are limits?  

*BePro User with not even an FUP*  :rock:
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: neXus on March 04, 2008, 09:30:29 AM
Quote from: White GiantJust tested again, and got a similar result, looks promising.

Shame about the limits on torrents though :(

Open up your ports
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: White Giant on March 04, 2008, 10:59:12 AM
Ports are open, everything is configured as it should be. Eclipse throttle torrents, plenty of info out there about them doing it.

Im just glad I can finally download normal things at a reasonable speed.
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: knighty on March 04, 2008, 11:10:14 AM
be unlimited....

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/241962526.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

but Ive had much better download speeds than that in the past... 2400k isnt a big deal if Im downloading multiple files.... plus i can hit 2000k in bit torrent :o
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: Leon on March 04, 2008, 11:14:32 AM
Cant get Be where I live :(
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: Maldonado on March 04, 2008, 16:05:35 PM
Encrypt your torrent traffic and disallow legacy connections if your ISP uses some funky ellacoya shizzle. Change your ports, Roberts your mothers brother.
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: Leon on March 04, 2008, 16:11:06 PM
Keep meaning to get round to doing this but always forget by the time I get home :P
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: White Giant on March 04, 2008, 22:29:46 PM
Quote from: MaldonadoEncrypt your torrent traffic and disallow legacy connections if your ISP uses some funky ellacoya shizzle. Change your ports, Roberts your mothers brother.

Doesnt help Im afraid.

http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Bad_ISPs#United_Kingdom
Title: Re:Decent net speed!
Post by: filbert on March 05, 2008, 09:47:33 AM
Just done another check

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/242384180.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Not bad for a 2mb line, thats almost free, I pay £19.95 for phone line, free 24/7 calls to 01/02 numbers, some deal for international and mobiles, and medium tv.
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: knighty on March 05, 2008, 20:58:29 PM
^^^

19282kb/s ~ 20mb line :o
Title: Re:Decent net speed!
Post by: filbert on March 05, 2008, 23:55:33 PM
^^^
 See my first post.


Quote from: filbertI used to be on virgin 20mb, but they stopped my deal and I couldnt afford the full price, so I went down to 2mb.
I think they forgot to change it, been the same for 2 months now :rock:

Title: Re:Decent net speed!
Post by: Porch Monkey on March 20, 2008, 16:45:10 PM
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/248824979.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: Mardoni on March 20, 2008, 16:53:24 PM
^ lol

Gotta be in the office, surely ;)
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: White Giant on March 20, 2008, 17:05:34 PM
Still looking good with my new ADSL24 connection.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/248833797.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Downloaded a torrent at over 500k/s earlier, nearly passed out.
Title: Decent net speed!
Post by: bear on March 20, 2008, 19:03:29 PM
Quote from: White GiantStill looking good with my new ADSL24 connection.



Downloaded a torrent at over 500k/s earlier, nearly passed out.

I get 1200 Mb/s :) on my ADSL 24  well I have set the limit in µTorrent to that so I should be some leftover to other machines  :D


With µTorrent running :