I was underwhelmed. They seem to have bought themselves back into line with the current S3 and One X generation of Android phones but not moved forward in any aspect.
A standard "bigger, faster, lighter" upgrade to the 4S.
I think you may have missed the maginitude of the updates into the package. And I think you over hyped it yourself in terms of expectation.
Until the first fold screen phone or holo projector phone takes that next big leap all phones are just interational better.
Being as light and thin as it is alone is impresive love or hate it, hardware information for me was not underwealming.
Take things like the wireless charging. Nokia has it baked in - Cool. But the tech watt to charge is not very high so they take a lot longer to charge. No quick blast charge and go in the day etc. It is cool but not practicle.
A lot of the andoid phones have NFC, but where is the real world implementation of that everywhere?
They realy locking down thier form factor and I think you will see Samsung for example do the same, not much to go unless it is just the sake of change. Until materials take the next leaps etc and things like the bendy screens become to that point to be viable, Nokia's new phones are not much visually different etc either.
For at least another 2 years in my eyes phones are not going to be that much different visually from now and be itteration hardware improvements.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=221289454665405&set=a.212949015499449.47205.212944305499920&type=1&theater
It's pretty underwelming but hey do they really care? People will still flock to them.
Retina display = yey... only x640 resolution? Boo.
Lightning Connector = Boo, huge amount of accessories now useless... MicroUSB connectors and old dock converters (forced on apple by EU law) is a small win but extra cost (£15 & £20).
No NFC? I don't see why they didn't. It may not be that much use at the moment but it is getting bigger and there are a huge amount of accessories coming out (speakers are one that comes to mind) that will be using it.
Most things people seem to be happy about are it's thinner and the rest is iOS6 which the 4s is getting the exact same treatment.
But people will get what they like. I'm stuck on Android due to things like all my stuff being on google and MicroUSB, HDMI, Expandable Storage, USB Host, Rooted stuff like terminal, access to edit hosts files for adblock etc... 90% of the consumer base couldn't care less about any of them.
Quote from: neXus on September 13, 2012, 10:07:38 AM
A lot of the andoid phones have NFC, but where is the real world implementation of that everywhere?
It's getting a lot more popular, and it's chicken and egg really if all the manufacturers included NFC, NFC would progress faster than if no one adopted it and relied on separate cards, I guess they are waiting for it to progress before adopting it (new phone will be out in another year anyway)
Obviously the main shout is the 4G, although it'll drain your battery I expect and unless you are in one of the areas they are launching it you wont see the benefit (I am BTW :) )
If states are anything to go by 4G will be silly expensive when it comes out... it's not just a case of "oh I have a LTE phone so now my normal package will be faster" deal.
Quote from: Leon on September 13, 2012, 11:46:42 AM
If states are anything to go by 4G will be silly expensive when it comes out... it's not just a case of "oh I have a LTE phone so now my normal package will be faster" deal.
I think the main thing will be the increased data bundle sizes required if you actually want to use it the same as your wifi..
One of the first things I did when I got the S3 was disable the NFC. Seemed to slightly impact wifi signal, and I figured it was a needless drain on battery, no matter how small - I have nothing that needs to use it.
The screen is very slightly better than the S3 and One X in terms of DPI (312 vs 326) but its also 0.7" smaller.
I expect the lightness in weight is impressive technically but is 18g lighter than a One X impressive considering the smaller form factor? Similarly, 1.0mm thinner than the S3?
It is nice to see Apple still making quality items but I was hoping that they would improve on the current generation of phones, and pending excellent battery life or exceptional performance (Id be surprised if the A6 outperforms the S4 snapdragon) there's nothing new to see here.
Maybe we have spoilt in the past with revolutionary improvements but in my mind that was what helped justify the price tags. When its the same tech as current 'free on contract' phones it doesn't drive market innovation or justify its sky high prices.
Apple have ran out of ideas. When apple released new products in the past it was always the case of 'wow thats a good idea' but now all they can do is make things lighter and thinner.
Not a single interesting or exciting thing about the iphone5, its a longer iphone4s, may aswell be the iphone4gs or somthing.
I'll stick with my N9 :) 16M colors Size 480 x 854 pixels, 3.9 inches (~251 ppi pixel density)
(http://9.mshcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/iPhone-10.jpeg)
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/13/apple-aspect-ratio-patent/
So they won't change their aspect ratio to be 16:9 and instead come up with this to blur the black area so we don't notice it instead :P
Great!
http://youtu.be/rdIWKytq_q4
I know its not everything but a large amount of apple fans are like this... they don't even know what they are holding, its just apple and new so they must own it!
iReligion ?
Bought two this morning at 8.30am :roll:
Will see which one looks the 'nicest' and sell the other on.
Were you drunk?
Expecting a shortage?
Almost certainly the best made phone out there at the moment, and unlikely to be beaten because no one else can command the same prices.
:rofl: No, not drunk!
I do like the iPhone, and think they are the best out there, so bought it :)
Quote from: chrisdicko on September 14, 2012, 19:56:46 PM
:rofl: No, not drunk!
I do like the iPhone, and think they are the best out there, so bought it :)
lolz. You must be high
I just didn't understand why you needed two more than anything! :lol:
Quote from: XEntity on September 13, 2012, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: neXus on September 13, 2012, 10:07:38 AM
A lot of the andoid phones have NFC, but where is the real world implementation of that everywhere?
It's getting a lot more popular, and it's chicken and egg really if all the manufacturers included NFC, NFC would progress faster than if no one adopted it and relied on separate cards, I guess they are waiting for it to progress before adopting it (new phone will be out in another year anyway)
Obviously the main shout is the 4G, although it'll drain your battery I expect and unless you are in one of the areas they are launching it you wont see the benefit (I am BTW :) )
Well you know apple, Wait till something is out there enough, might not be totally everywhere and really taken off but enough to be viable. Do your own thing in that regard, claim your the first and best and then it really becomes huge everywhere as a technology not just from apple.
Never like when they do their claims but at least they do really kick things off.
It is funny how some say it is underwealming, like I said you wiill not see anything WOW in phones for a while now till a peace of tech really becomes viable that is that next leap.
- Very thin and very light, considering what it has in it - pretty big.
- Quite a bit improved camera, front camera now 720 as while both being thinner
- LTE Etc in one chip and not a battery hog, why Apple waited and did not do it when it was a separate chip
- New A6 chip is quite a nice boost
- longer screen for 16/9, not wider for a reason so your thumb in one hand can travel across the screen, wider screen does not really mean better for many, I would agree with this concept.
- New speaker finally
- 3 mic's and improved mic's
- Longer battery life even though bigger screen, LTE, A6 etc..
- Not really announced but from the leaks shown - different built type for the home button, better to press apperently
- New connector, both ways plugin which is always nice
-
I like the look of the new white one and seeing how quick the camera was taking pictures etc... I think it is a good level of polish of things that needed improving, pretty much all of the changes were those little grips that annoyed me with my 4.
Yep it is not WOW OMG! but I think they did the improvements I think are things I would want to see.
what more can a phone do except on impoving what it already has?
Quote from: addictweb on September 13, 2012, 15:53:28 PM
The screen is very slightly better than the S3 and One X in terms of DPI (312 vs 326) but its also 0.7" smaller.
I expect the lightness in weight is impressive technically but is 18g lighter than a One X impressive considering the smaller form factor? Similarly, 1.0mm thinner than the S3?
It is nice to see Apple still making quality items but I was hoping that they would improve on the current generation of phones, and pending excellent battery life or exceptional performance (Id be surprised if the A6 outperforms the S4 snapdragon) there's nothing new to see here.
Maybe we have spoilt in the past with revolutionary improvements but in my mind that was what helped justify the price tags. When its the same tech as current 'free on contract' phones it doesn't drive market innovation or justify its sky high prices.
What revolutionary improvements?
The first iPhone failed to have even ancient 3G tech in it.
The next only brought it up to 3G standards when phones were already up on 3.5G tech
The 3rd brought a subtle upgrade in processor and most of the upgrades were software based which the jailbreak community had already ported to earlier models. Bring capabilities to the iPhone that every other phone already had back years ago "holy sh*t I can record video!"
The 4th brought Siri... Another software upgrade that only worked with network connectivity. My O2 XDA had voice command on windows mobile 5... Years later apple still haven't got it working properly.
The 5th brings us the A6 processor to offer similar performance to phones that were released 6 months ago, and a slightly larger (but still smaller than the competition) screen.
Yeah... Revolutionary. The real Che Guevara of the phone world. Well I suppose fanboi hipsters everywhere are indeed emblazoned with the apple logo, at least that's one thing it shares with the Che.
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on September 14, 2012, 22:39:27 PM
I just didn't understand why you needed two more than anything! :lol:
Well.....I couldn't decide which colour would be best really, so got them both to choose from, then will sell the other on. It's no risk really money wise, as I can either give it back to apple for a refund, or sell it on ebay etc.
Quote from: chrisdicko on September 15, 2012, 15:22:37 PM
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on September 14, 2012, 22:39:27 PM
I just didn't understand why you needed two more than anything! :lol:
Well.....I couldn't decide which colour would be best really, so got them both to choose from, then will sell the other on. It's no risk really money wise, as I can either give it back to apple for a refund, or sell it on ebay etc.
Or trade it in (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/regretting-buying-iphone-5-trade-for-a-10-15-profit-get-540-cash-16gb-615-cash-32gb-1312263) for more than you paid.
Quote from: M3ta7h3ad on September 15, 2012, 13:50:12 PM
Quote from: addictweb on September 13, 2012, 15:53:28 PM
The screen is very slightly better than the S3 and One X in terms of DPI (312 vs 326) but its also 0.7" smaller.
I expect the lightness in weight is impressive technically but is 18g lighter than a One X impressive considering the smaller form factor? Similarly, 1.0mm thinner than the S3?
It is nice to see Apple still making quality items but I was hoping that they would improve on the current generation of phones, and pending excellent battery life or exceptional performance (Id be surprised if the A6 outperforms the S4 snapdragon) there's nothing new to see here.
Maybe we have spoilt in the past with revolutionary improvements but in my mind that was what helped justify the price tags. When its the same tech as current 'free on contract' phones it doesn't drive market innovation or justify its sky high prices.
What revolutionary improvements?
The first iPhone failed to have even ancient 3G tech in it.
The next only brought it up to 3G standards when phones were already up on 3.5G tech
The 3rd brought a subtle upgrade in processor and most of the upgrades were software based which the jailbreak community had already ported to earlier models. Bring capabilities to the iPhone that every other phone already had back years ago "holy sh*t I can record video!"
The 4th brought Siri... Another software upgrade that only worked with network connectivity. My O2 XDA had voice command on windows mobile 5... Years later apple still haven't got it working properly.
The 5th brings us the A6 processor to offer similar performance to phones that were released 6 months ago, and a slightly larger (but still smaller than the competition) screen.
Yeah... Revolutionary. The real Che Guevara of the phone world. Well I suppose fanboi hipsters everywhere are indeed emblazoned with the apple logo, at least that's one thing it shares with the Che.
Facts in the above are quite wrong :)
Also even if the above was true, just be because it had some shortcomings, that doesn't mean that there's no innovation? Typical anti-apple fan boy post to be honest, they basically kicked off the touchscreen smartphone market, I'm not saying they were the first, but they were the first to do it well!
*this statement is not based on fact, this is my own opinion and I'm happy for someone to show me a phone released before that wasn't sh*t to use, I'm also not an apple fan boy, I have both an android and an iPhone and I prefer the iPhone, but I can appreciate the benefits of both and also the drawbacks.
If apple release a new phone they are very quick to post on the net saying how sh*t it is, but when Samsung or htc release one a lot less people feel the need to post, despite that more often than not you'll see less innovation, also strapping a larger screen on the phone doesn't make it better, some phones are starting to look very trigger happy in this respect!
Sorry for the little bit of a rant, but the mac vs non mac argument is getting very old (from both sides not just the anti apple group) often I'm sure that people who have these arguments haven't used both
Quote from: neXus on September 15, 2012, 22:44:34 PM
Quote from: M3ta7h3ad on September 15, 2012, 13:50:12 PM
Quote from: addictweb on September 13, 2012, 15:53:28 PM
The screen is very slightly better than the S3 and One X in terms of DPI (312 vs 326) but its also 0.7" smaller.
I expect the lightness in weight is impressive technically but is 18g lighter than a One X impressive considering the smaller form factor? Similarly, 1.0mm thinner than the S3?
It is nice to see Apple still making quality items but I was hoping that they would improve on the current generation of phones, and pending excellent battery life or exceptional performance (Id be surprised if the A6 outperforms the S4 snapdragon) there's nothing new to see here.
Maybe we have spoilt in the past with revolutionary improvements but in my mind that was what helped justify the price tags. When its the same tech as current 'free on contract' phones it doesn't drive market innovation or justify its sky high prices.
What revolutionary improvements?
The first iPhone failed to have even ancient 3G tech in it.
The next only brought it up to 3G standards when phones were already up on 3.5G tech
The 3rd brought a subtle upgrade in processor and most of the upgrades were software based which the jailbreak community had already ported to earlier models. Bring capabilities to the iPhone that every other phone already had back years ago "holy sh*t I can record video!"
The 4th brought Siri... Another software upgrade that only worked with network connectivity. My O2 XDA had voice command on windows mobile 5... Years later apple still haven't got it working properly.
The 5th brings us the A6 processor to offer similar performance to phones that were released 6 months ago, and a slightly larger (but still smaller than the competition) screen.
Yeah... Revolutionary. The real Che Guevara of the phone world. Well I suppose fanboi hipsters everywhere are indeed emblazoned with the apple logo, at least that's one thing it shares with the Che.
Facts in the above are quite wrong :)
Really? I'm still yet to be corrected.
It's an iPhone. It's in one form factor, it's behind the curve for cutting edge because apple always is and it looks pretty.
Me I own an iPad because I do indeed think apple have cornered the market for tablet devices the ipad3 is done very well indeed.
You can say many things about apple products but there is absolutely diddly squat revolutionary about their iPhone line of products.
It's all been done before, just apple shove it in a very well presented package and market it to the masses.
Quote from: XEntity on September 16, 2012, 13:48:37 PM
Also even if the above was true, just be because it had some shortcomings, that doesn't mean that there's no innovation? Typical anti-apple fan boy post to be honest, they basically kicked off the touchscreen smartphone market, I'm not saying they were the first, but they were the first to do it well!
*this statement is not based on fact, this is my own opinion and I'm happy for someone to show me a phone released before that wasn't sh*t to use, I'm also not an apple fan boy, I have both an android and an iPhone and I prefer the iPhone, but I can appreciate the benefits of both and also the drawbacks.
If apple release a new phone they are very quick to post on the net saying how sh*t it is, but when Samsung or htc release one a lot less people feel the need to post, despite that more often than not you'll see less innovation, also strapping a larger screen on the phone doesn't make it better, some phones are starting to look very trigger happy in this respect!
Sorry for the little bit of a rant, but the mac vs non mac argument is getting very old (from both sides not just the anti apple group) often I'm sure that people who have these arguments haven't used both
Kicked off? The smartphone market was dominated by power and business users, using more capable devices which included HSDPA support, gps and wifi as standard, microSD upgradable storage, etc...etc... What apple did do well though is market it to the general public.
I guess that's one thing revolutionary about the release of the iPhone (and other I devices really) it was the marketing machine behind it.
Apple brand things very well.
Take a look at any of the HTC customised xda's available around the launch of the iPhone, they were pretty damn intuitive and easy to use.
Quote from: M3ta7h3ad on September 16, 2012, 22:18:57 PM
Quote from: XEntity on September 16, 2012, 13:48:37 PM
I'm not saying they were the first, but they were the first to do it well!
*this statement is not based on fact, this is my own opinion and I'm happy for someone to show me a phone released before that wasn't sh*t to use.
Weren't all of the xda's running windows mobile? Sorry but windows mobile at the time was awful, just browsing the web was clunky let alone trying to do anything multimedia, although I do agree that the omission of 3G on the first model was a stupid idea.
To be honest the next "innovation" I want to see on a smart phone is a half decent battery life, apple should have kept the thickness and added extra battery life, to last a weekend without charging would be nice!
Quote from: M3ta7h3ad on September 16, 2012, 22:11:11 PM
Quote from: neXus on September 15, 2012, 22:44:34 PM
Quote from: M3ta7h3ad on September 15, 2012, 13:50:12 PM
Quote from: addictweb on September 13, 2012, 15:53:28 PM
The screen is very slightly better than the S3 and One X in terms of DPI (312 vs 326) but its also 0.7" smaller.
I expect the lightness in weight is impressive technically but is 18g lighter than a One X impressive considering the smaller form factor? Similarly, 1.0mm thinner than the S3?
It is nice to see Apple still making quality items but I was hoping that they would improve on the current generation of phones, and pending excellent battery life or exceptional performance (Id be surprised if the A6 outperforms the S4 snapdragon) there's nothing new to see here.
Maybe we have spoilt in the past with revolutionary improvements but in my mind that was what helped justify the price tags. When its the same tech as current 'free on contract' phones it doesn't drive market innovation or justify its sky high prices.
What revolutionary improvements?
The first iPhone failed to have even ancient 3G tech in it.
The next only brought it up to 3G standards when phones were already up on 3.5G tech
The 3rd brought a subtle upgrade in processor and most of the upgrades were software based which the jailbreak community had already ported to earlier models. Bring capabilities to the iPhone that every other phone already had back years ago "holy sh*t I can record video!"
The 4th brought Siri... Another software upgrade that only worked with network connectivity. My O2 XDA had voice command on windows mobile 5... Years later apple still haven't got it working properly.
The 5th brings us the A6 processor to offer similar performance to phones that were released 6 months ago, and a slightly larger (but still smaller than the competition) screen.
Yeah... Revolutionary. The real Che Guevara of the phone world. Well I suppose fanboi hipsters everywhere are indeed emblazoned with the apple logo, at least that's one thing it shares with the Che.
Facts in the above are quite wrong :)
Really? I'm still yet to be corrected.
It's an iPhone. It's in one form factor, it's behind the curve for cutting edge because apple always is and it looks pretty.
Me I own an iPad because I do indeed think apple have cornered the market for tablet devices the ipad3 is done very well indeed.
You can say many things about apple products but there is absolutely diddly squat revolutionary about their iPhone line of products.
It's all been done before, just apple shove it in a very well presented package and market it to the masses.
Missing versions, missing big features, missing features, wrong features....
I get your point and just with any phone all can be labelled as iterations, true but no point just posting things that are not actually right to make the point. Just say it.
I also hate people that feel Apple is revolutionary, I like their products but I do not think this. Why is every company out there trying to emulate them in lots of ways?
Because they go about the production of something or create the features in the ways that work, they screw customers over like other companies but they do things to push technology forward in a lot of ways.
Why I am sad to see them just sue and hounder other companies who are also trying to push, bad for tech overall recent events have been :(
But still
The apple approach to a lot of things is something to admire and emulate (which companies do). Razer is a PC based company who is ever increasing adopting the same policies. Their products cost more then others but they are dam dam dam nice! I want their new keyboard and mouse for example!
Quote from: M3ta7h3ad on September 16, 2012, 22:18:57 PM
Quote from: XEntity on September 16, 2012, 13:48:37 PM
Also even if the above was true, just be because it had some shortcomings, that doesn't mean that there's no innovation? Typical anti-apple fan boy post to be honest, they basically kicked off the touchscreen smartphone market, I'm not saying they were the first, but they were the first to do it well!
*this statement is not based on fact, this is my own opinion and I'm happy for someone to show me a phone released before that wasn't sh*t to use, I'm also not an apple fan boy, I have both an android and an iPhone and I prefer the iPhone, but I can appreciate the benefits of both and also the drawbacks.
If apple release a new phone they are very quick to post on the net saying how sh*t it is, but when Samsung or htc release one a lot less people feel the need to post, despite that more often than not you'll see less innovation, also strapping a larger screen on the phone doesn't make it better, some phones are starting to look very trigger happy in this respect!
Sorry for the little bit of a rant, but the mac vs non mac argument is getting very old (from both sides not just the anti apple group) often I'm sure that people who have these arguments haven't used both
Kicked off? The smartphone market was dominated by power and business users, using more capable devices which included HSDPA support, gps and wifi as standard, microSD upgradable storage, etc...etc... What apple did do well though is market it to the general public.
I guess that's one thing revolutionary about the release of the iPhone (and other I devices really) it was the marketing machine behind it.
Apple brand things very well.
Take a look at any of the HTC customised xda's available around the launch of the iPhone, they were pretty damn intuitive and easy to use.
Seen plenty of video articles on phones and what phones looked like pre iphone and what they look like now. Maybe companies were developing the next wave as the tech was viable too, Apple released the new format of smartphone first though and set the standard where all phones now try to better or compete with.
Before iphone clamshell etc was hip, physical buttons etc. Many companies even after iPhone said non physical keys would not take off, was going to flop as a concept.
iPhone or others, well it makes long threads and apple is boosting the US economy at the moment :)
(http://imgdaddy.com/upload/8733.jpg)
Quote from: bear on September 14, 2012, 11:34:08 AM
iReligion ?
Peace be upon Steve Jobs (pbuh), our fallen messiah, hipsters everywhere shall praise him forever.
May your devices always be thinner, more expensive (so you can look smug), your jeans freshly-ironed, your dubstep cool and fresh, full of 'donk' and 'wubwub', and your 'patents' secure from the evils of the vile satan known as
'Samsung'*.
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Quote from: neXus on September 15, 2012, 01:10:03 AM
It is funny how some say it is underwealming, like I said you wiill not see anything WOW in phones for a while now till a peace of tech really becomes viable that is that next leap.
- LTE Etc in one chip and not a battery hog, why Apple waited and did not do it when it was a separate chip
More like it would have cost them too much and eaten into their precious massive profit margin!
Quote from: Leon on September 17, 2012, 09:28:40 AM
(http://imgdaddy.com/upload/8733.jpg)
Are you f...ing kidding? Bloody hell.
Quote from: M3ta7h3ad on September 17, 2012, 17:48:59 PM
Quote from: Leon on September 17, 2012, 09:28:40 AM
(http://imgdaddy.com/upload/8733.jpg)
Are you f...ing kidding? Bloody hell.
Yeah, that is what I hate about apple big time, that sort of stuff!
It is ok though because $1 shops etc soon have this stuff for next to nothing anyway and if they only last a few months, who cares, only couple of bucks.
every company that brings out accessories to support their latest gadget massively overprices their stuff.
Their adapters are the same price for the old dock connector - but chinese makers have their versions that cost a 1/4 of the apple price.
Looks like the new Apple Maps app that they have replaced Google Maps with is shocking. Type in London and it takes you to London, Ontario, Canada. They've labelled Airfield Park in Ireland as an actual Airfield, Doncaster has been renamed to Duncaster, some towns are actually miles from where the real town is if you use Apple Maps, most roads aren't labelled, the list goes on. Here is just one report http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/20/apple_fans_slam_ios_6_map_app/ and here is another http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/09/apple-knows-apple-maps-suck-right-now-but-says-itll-get-better/
Apple have also stolen a clock design and now risk being sued http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/09/apple-totally-stole-the-design-of-the-ios-6-ipad-clock/
BBC list few other issues:
Some towns appear to be missing, such as Stratford-upon-Avon and Solihull.
Others, like Uckfield in East Sussex, are in the wrong location.
Satellite images of various locations, particularly in Scotland, are obscured by cloud.
A search for Manchester United Football Club directs users to Sale United Football Club, a community team for ages five and above.
Users also reported missing local places, such as schools, or strange locations. Another screenshot showed a furniture museum that was apparently located in a river.
Museum listed in the middle of the river.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19659736
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(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-28G7ao5cR14/UFuwmf_HZEI/AAAAAAAARpw/w4zkB8H1l_4/s456/ios6maps.jpeg)
I can only assume that the removal of google maps an YouTube is due to the Android vs iOS battle, Apple have kind of shot them self in the foot with this one though! Google need to release google maps as a download though!
I suspect a lot of users won't upgrade to iOS6 until google release an approved mapping app for it. The break away from Google is more than just the Android battle, it's the idea of being dependant on someone else. Which is odd because all they have done is turned to tomtom and branded it as their own.
TomTom are amusingly washing their hands saying they just supply the mapping data.
Not to fussed over the maps as I have a proper turn by turn app that is great already and rarely use the main mapping. Will defo download the google one.
Telling that the youtube app for iphone is the most downloaded. What is dam annoying though is now watching youtube stuff on ipad is now broken, no ipad app, no true full screen etc. VERY ANNOYING, and google did not release an app for it.
Plus side phone wise though is the new youtube app is actually a lot better.
They also pushed me to finally full time use chrome for ipad (which is awesome) as well and as a user Apple really now need to have default options in settings so I can chose my mail client, browser, video player etc. They would find most people set them to 3rd party ones.
Leon, those are absolutely priceless! I just fell off my chair.
Quote from: neXus on September 21, 2012, 23:05:34 PM
Apple really now need to have default options in settings so I can chose my mail client, browser, video player etc. They would find most people set them to 3rd party ones.
Isn't this entirely defeating the point of having an iPhone? :lol: The phone hardware is nothing special as we know, people go on about the apple 'experience' because of the OS and apps, seems like its clear shiny toy syndrome buying one just to start using all the software you would use on any other phone.
YouTube native app was removed as they didn't want to manage it anymore, they basically gave the app development back to google thats why it's now a downloadable app from the store.
Google has also said they are working on a gmaps app for iOS but I haven't seen anything about an ETA.
For those of you on iPads and have ios6 I highly recommend the Jasmine app for YouTube at least until YouTube make one available. It's better than the apple one was.
Loss of google maps isn't too bad (i like the roadworks stuff i can see) but most annoying thing from my standpoint is the lack of street view! I often fired that up to read things like the parking restriction signs outside where I'm going and stuff.
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on September 22, 2012, 11:17:54 AM
Quote from: neXus on September 21, 2012, 23:05:34 PM
Apple really now need to have default options in settings so I can chose my mail client, browser, video player etc. They would find most people set them to 3rd party ones.
Isn't this entirely defeating the point of having an iPhone? :lol: The phone hardware is nothing special as we know, people go on about the apple 'experience' because of the OS and apps, seems like its clear shiny toy syndrome buying one just to start using all the software you would use on any other phone.
Apple shop apps tend to be more polished. Less dross to filter through, android is getting better though.
That said the default mail client is pissing annoyingly crap! I'm with nexus on that one.
I am pleased with most OVI apps but I have nothing to compare with :D