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Title: joli
Post by: Eggtastico on March 10, 2011, 15:28:17 PM
http://www.jolicloud.com/

going to give this a bash on my netbook - as it really struggles with windows.
Anyone use it?
Title: Re: joli
Post by: Eggtastico on March 10, 2011, 18:48:15 PM
This is great. Has tons of Potential. Supported my mini 700 netbook without any trouble. Just had to pick my network to connect.
It comes with apps already installed & adding apps is as easy clicking add.
Theres apps for a torrent client, Boxee, Spotify, Skype, Gimp, VLC, plants v zombies, freeciv,  nes box, drobox, googlemaps, bbc iplayer, etc.
oh & theres WINE of course.

This along with its support for Boxee (soopha's guide http://www.tekforums.net/guides-projects/soopah%27s-alternative-htpc-guide/ (http://www.tekforums.net/guides-projects/soopah%27s-alternative-htpc-guide/))
really does open up a load of possibilities for a proper HTPC that can do everything you want + more.

Im really considering putting it on a spare PC I have here & connecting it to my TV

Can see a lot of use from a business point of view as well as a basic machine for non tech users.
Title: Re: joli
Post by: DEViANCE on March 10, 2011, 19:04:52 PM
looks smart might give this a play later.

Do you think it would be able to run a wireless PCMCIA card that I use in the older laptops?
Title: Re: joli
Post by: Eggtastico on March 10, 2011, 19:31:52 PM
Quote from: DEViANCE on March 10, 2011, 19:04:52 PM
looks smart might give this a play later.

Do you think it would be able to run a wireless PCMCIA card that I use in the older laptops?

It runs Ubuntu under the hood.. so maybe check if its supported with that first.
Title: Re: joli
Post by: Mardoni on March 11, 2011, 17:06:57 PM
Is it just a bunch of shortcuts to web services ?  :dunno:

[edit]
Just spotted that it's either an OS or a kind of launcher app.
Title: Re: joli
Post by: XEntity on March 11, 2011, 17:50:03 PM
I could see it being really good if it included XBMC, or at least if you could add it as an 'App' on the OS version, obviously the web based version it would be less useful...
Title: Re: joli
Post by: XEntity on March 11, 2011, 18:26:17 PM
Just had a thought I've got one of these sitting around doing nothing, might see if I can get it running on this, it's an old school tablet (2000!)

Could be a 'good' iPad replacement :) and for free!


(http://pencomputing.com/images/fujitsu3500.jpg)
Title: Re: joli
Post by: Eggtastico on March 11, 2011, 18:59:44 PM
Quote from: Nimrod on March 11, 2011, 17:06:57 PM
Is it just a bunch of shortcuts to web services ?  :dunno:

[edit]
Just spotted that it's either an OS or a kind of launcher app.

basically... yes! but its almost idiot proof.
Title: Re: joli
Post by: Eggtastico on March 11, 2011, 19:00:03 PM
Quote from: XEntity on March 11, 2011, 18:26:17 PM
Just had a thought I've got one of these sitting around doing nothing, might see if I can get it running on this, it's an old school tablet (2000!)

Could be a 'good' iPad replacement :) and for free!


(http://pencomputing.com/images/fujitsu3500.jpg)

good idea.. I have one of them
Title: Re: joli
Post by: Eggtastico on March 11, 2011, 19:00:24 PM
Quote from: XEntity on March 11, 2011, 17:50:03 PM
I could see it being really good if it included XBMC, or at least if you could add it as an 'App' on the OS version, obviously the web based version it would be less useful...

It can run Boxee - is there that much difference?
Title: Re: joli
Post by: XEntity on March 11, 2011, 19:03:28 PM
Quote from: Eggtastico on March 11, 2011, 19:00:24 PM
Quote from: XEntity on March 11, 2011, 17:50:03 PM
I could see it being really good if it included XBMC, or at least if you could add it as an 'App' on the OS version, obviously the web based version it would be less useful...

It can run Boxee - is there that much difference?

I expect that would do it! I'm finding it difficult to find the apps you can run?
Title: Re: joli
Post by: Eggtastico on March 11, 2011, 19:32:41 PM
there isnt a list :o(
Title: Re: joli
Post by: bear on March 11, 2011, 21:39:43 PM
I am running ubuntu on my travelmate :) works great :D
Title: Re: joli
Post by: XEntity on March 11, 2011, 22:19:07 PM
Turns out Joli is a bit too much for the Fujitsu, and the touch screen doesn't work :S

Nevermind, back to the back of the cupboard it goes then!
Title: Re: joli
Post by: Shaun on March 12, 2011, 01:59:41 AM
Had a play with it on my old laptop which I guess is still above Netbook spec, it had a XP/Ubuntu install on it which works fine, but Wifi doesn't work on Joli and was slower to boot, I was a bit surprised at the Wifi as it is Intel and was still used until 2007, I couldn't find a fix for it so give up on it pretty quickly tbh.   

I currently use Mediaportal to transmit TV and media across my network ...if it was supported I would give it another look as I'm really into the concept   But currently it looks like a ginger half-brother to me :P     
Title: Re: joli
Post by: Eggtastico on March 14, 2011, 13:48:45 PM
well im loving it enough to get some cash together & build a HTPC.

found out ctrl+f1 brings up a terminal window & the menu key (on the right side of your keyboard next to the windows key)
brings up the menu - im a bit of a linuxnoob :D  -  managed to get ubuntu-tweaks installed.

Everything on my Compaq mini700 was supported straight out of the box. Wifi, Video, Bluetooth, etc.
Wanted to try installing XBMC & some hacks to access Hulu but didnt get around to it.

Potentially this will give me a frontend thats easy to navigate & launch different programs for my media.

Im even tempted to sell the popcorn hour to part fund my HTPC project.
Title: Re: joli
Post by: soopahfly on March 14, 2011, 14:47:48 PM
Depending on the power you want, I'd recommend the Zotac HD-22.

Better performance than the Atom, and Nvidia Ion based.
Title: Re: joli
Post by: Eggtastico on March 14, 2011, 15:14:17 PM
Quote from: soopahfly on March 14, 2011, 14:47:48 PM
Depending on the power you want, I'd recommend the Zotac HD-22.

Better performance than the Atom, and Nvidia Ion based.
motherboard wise I'll prob go for AMD Asus deluxe http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=9BmKhMwWCwqyl1lz&templete=2 (http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=9BmKhMwWCwqyl1lz&templete=2)
Finding a case is proving difficult. I'd love to design my own if it was cost effective.
Pity nobody has developed a stacking system like you used to get with hifi's.... Computer in one stack with room for an optical drive & some external ports.
Then another stack for a bunch of hard drives.. another stack with a display, some media control buttons & maybe more outputs, card reader, etc.
Title: Re: joli
Post by: XEntity on March 14, 2011, 19:23:09 PM
Pretty much what rack mount is, with the exception of a "ports" rack, but expect you could get a rack with some 3 1/2 in bays and mount the ports in there? connected to a USB hub?

In terms of my preference for a MC case it would be the Antec Fusion, although isn't SFF, only MATX.. Which has pretty much everything you are asking for, and works with the MCE remote, including power on and off, will take 3 HDs I believe... and the HDs I either have connected to USB or via NAS

It's quiet as hell and I'm running an AMD x2, but has 2x120mm fans running at a slow speed

(http://www.cluboc.net/reviews/cases/antec/fusion_black/front.jpg)
Title: Re: joli
Post by: Eggtastico on March 14, 2011, 19:36:41 PM
rack mounts are to big though. Pity they wasnt done 1/2 size.

Im 1/2 tempted to build a custom case, but not sure what the costs will into.
http://www.schaeffer-ag.de/ (http://www.schaeffer-ag.de/) make custom panels. just need to hard work re measurements,etc.
was thinking of going with
(http://static.scan.co.uk/images/products/1352660-a.jpg)
for 2.5" storage (6x drives in a 5" bay)
(http://edge.shop.com/ccimg.shop.com/230000/237600/237637/products/-%21Antec%20VERIS%20Multimedia%20Station%20Premier%20Infrared%20receiver--389332855.jpg)
(http://static.letsbuyit.com/filer/images/fr/products/original/74/59/antec-veris-multimedia-station-premier-rcepteur-infrarouge-7459155.jpeg)

Thats already pushing me up to 3x bays in height + another for an optical drive & some media ports, a bit higher than I want - at least with a stack, I can seperate on the shelves of my Plasma stand.
(http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/pa/panasonic-ty-s50pz80w-plasma-tv-stand-for.jpg)
Title: Re: joli
Post by: XEntity on March 14, 2011, 19:55:04 PM
Ok if you are looking at "seperates" have you thought just about building a media PC, then re-cycling an older PC just to run as NAS, then you don't even need to put it in sight?

Also would you really want to run 2.5" drives? 3.5 would give you a lot more bang for the buck? Looking at some caddies online you appear to be able to fit 4 drives in 3 5 1/4 bays..

If you really want HD space then just get one of these :P

(http://www.pc-look.com/boutik/images/Plus2/700817-055_p001.jpg)
Title: Re: joli
Post by: Eggtastico on March 14, 2011, 20:12:22 PM
I totally agree about bang for buck. Atm all my media is spread across 9 hard drives.
I need to consolidate into a few 2TBs. Just cant find some nice caddies - Ideally I would want at least 4.
Any other drives, I can do what I do now & use a USB/Esata Dock

Ive got my eye on a case from chenbro
(http://www.homeserverland.com/forum/uploads/cs/14/0574.es34069.jpg)
looks ideal except they dont come with a card reader - thats an optional extra - but impossible to find!
may just get one of them... though I really want something that can stack.
Title: Re: joli
Post by: XEntity on March 14, 2011, 20:33:23 PM
This will stack :P

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4U-SERVER-CASE-RACKMOUNT-19-iNCH-/200426005190?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item2eaa5222c6 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4U-SERVER-CASE-RACKMOUNT-19-iNCH-/200426005190?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item2eaa5222c6)

Will have a look at that case looks pretty cool
Title: Re: joli
Post by: XEntity on March 14, 2011, 20:35:51 PM
Also If you did want to maximise available bays... from chenbro 5 drives in 3 x 5 1/4 bays

(http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/images/imgB107040.jpg)
Title: Re: joli
Post by: Eggtastico on March 14, 2011, 21:24:19 PM
rackmount case is to big. I still need to fit in my 3 consoles, sky box & dreambox.
Think I'll end up with the chenbro case. If I adjust the shelves, It should fit
Title: Re: joli
Post by: XEntity on March 14, 2011, 21:28:53 PM
Will you run the chenbro as a media centre and storage then, when I mentioned the rack I meant as having a separate NAS, not sitting under your TV :)
Title: Re: joli
Post by: Eggtastico on March 14, 2011, 21:32:14 PM
rackmount case is to big. I still need to fit in my 3 consoles, sky box & dreambox.
Think I'll end up with the chenbro case. If I adjust the shelves, It should fit


or maybe I stick to plan A & have a home media server under my stairs serving the house.