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Title: Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: Bacon on March 21, 2007, 15:05:01 PM
Considering

AMD X2
NF550 Mobo?
2GB Ram

Need to know which processor to go for, 3800-4600
Which mobo to go for, i guess nf550 is the equiv of nf5?
2gb ram, again something to run with above, i guess i should buy pc6400 for 800mhz? will there be much difference in performance if i bought 5300 and will it run ok?

I have read some reviews and stuff, just want some feedback from you lot to see if its the same idea

I checked out intel core 2 but the prices incl a half decent mobo seem to be considerably more.
Title: Re:Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: Serious on March 21, 2007, 16:39:05 PM
Go for the 4600 65nm Brisbane core if you can find one cheap.
Go for the 800mhz ram, you need the memory speed.
Title: Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: knighty on March 21, 2007, 18:25:47 PM
are you running dual core at the mo ?

the x2 is a big performance boost over a normal chip....  and you wont really notice the difference between 3800 to 4600 tbh.... so just get the best bang for buck :)

and as serious said, go for some good memory, itll save you a load of problems over cheap stuff :)
Title: Re:Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: Walrusbonzo on March 21, 2007, 18:36:51 PM
Intel Core Duo 2

E4300 and Abit Fatal1ty FP-IN9 SLI NF650i for £190~, E4300 would get to 2.7GHz at least and would wipe the floor with any Athlon X2 running at less than about 3.6GHz.

Of course you may not want to overclock.  But in my opinion its silly not to these days as its so god damn easy to do and the gains are often 40~50% with lower end Core Duo 2s.  And thats with stock cooling and stock voltage!
Title: Re:Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: Bacon on March 21, 2007, 18:39:47 PM
AMD 3200+
1GB Kingston 3200
SN25P

Is my current setup with a

XFX 7600 GT 256MB DDR3 XXX Edition

Runs wow, coh, gw all fine, although it seems to lack performance in LOTRO Beta, there has been mention that another gig of ram might help considerably but i thought i might as well go dual while im at it :)

Usually i dont bother overclocking, i tend to go for stable system as possible, so my purchase would be towards a decent un-ocd setup, the potential to oc would be a bonus.

Also im running a single gpu at the moment, only have enough cash atm to upgrade the cpu, mobo, ram
Title: Re:Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: Bacon on March 21, 2007, 19:46:28 PM
If i did opt for core 2 duo, o amd x2 will this psu handle it

http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=601984

i have this one lying around still, not really been used. Also have the 20-24 pin converter for use with 775 mobo
Title: Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: knighty on March 21, 2007, 19:46:46 PM
the upgrade to an X2 was the only real preformance boost when upgrading that Ive been able to really notice in a long time, I lurv mine : :wub:

maybe the intel could be faster.... but I guess Im just an AMD fanboy after years of doing well with them :o


EDIT: never heard of that make... but that doesenlt really mean anything.... and bth Id go for something a bit better if your going to upgrade to dual gfx later on....  (when I say better, I mean make, 460w hould be plenty)

p.s. ask m3... the post has gone now, but he recomended a make the other day that comes with a lifetime garantee... worth it tbh :)
Title: Re:Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: Bacon on March 21, 2007, 19:55:25 PM
yep im just working to a budget atm :D didnt really consider that would have to buy a psu because i totally forgot about it :D

ps according to reviews that psu kicks out about 400w
Title: Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: knighty on March 21, 2007, 20:56:23 PM
yeah... the main thing is, the closer you run it to its peak output the shorter its life is

last thing I read sais a psu run at 50% output should last ten times longer than one run at 75%

(was awhile ago I read that tho....)

(75% because most PSUs are made to run at about 75% constant load, much over that and your killing it)
Title: Re:Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: Bacon on March 21, 2007, 21:05:13 PM
So next anwser is how much wattage is needed for both of these cpus, the core 2 duo and amd x2, guess thats more searching for me :D
Title: Re:Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: Serious on March 21, 2007, 21:19:01 PM
If you arent going for a dual graphics set up then any decent 460watt one should do, if you are going for dual graphics card then you want to upgrade to dual rail

http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=605562

Handles my brothers 3200+ with a pair of graphics cards and other bits perfectly.
Title: Re:Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: Bacon on March 21, 2007, 21:45:06 PM
No i will stick with a single graphics card for now, budget does not permit anymore at this time, just want to see an improvement to performance in games really
Title: Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: filbert on March 22, 2007, 00:58:04 AM
My x2 3800+ o/c to 2.5ghz 6800gs @ultra and 2gb ram
runs fine with my enermax 360watt, never been a problem in many months.
Title: Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: Bacon on March 22, 2007, 01:42:09 AM
Quote from: filbertMy x2 3800+ o/c to 2.5ghz 6800gs @ultra and 2gb ram
runs fine with my enermax 360watt, never been a problem in many months.

ta for clearing that up :)
Title: Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: JK23 on April 01, 2007, 01:56:31 AM
Quote from: filbertMy x2 3800+ o/c to 2.5ghz 6800gs @ultra and 2gb ram
runs fine with my enermax 360watt, never been a problem in many months.

AM running my Core2 Duo 6600 at 3ghz with stock cooling and voltage and a 6600gt with a standard 400w enermax - No bother... Just fyi ;)

Jase
Title: Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on April 01, 2007, 10:22:28 AM
Quote from: knightyyeah... the main thing is, the closer you run it to its peak output the shorter its life is

last thing I read sais a psu run at 50% output should last ten times longer than one run at 75%

(was awhile ago I read that tho....)

(75% because most PSUs are made to run at about 75% constant load, much over that and your killing it)

Sure its not 1/SQR(2) *100 = 70.71%?

As would make sense, if most cheaper PSUs list PMPO as their rated power output, 1/SQR(2) would result in the RMS value of power which is what the power ratings SHOULD be on the packaging :)

not saying your wrong, just giving some credibility to your figures there :)
Title: Need to upgrade, been out of the loop!
Post by: funkychicken9000 on April 01, 2007, 13:10:01 PM
Quote from: M3ta7h3ad
Quote from: knightyyeah... the main thing is, the closer you run it to its peak output the shorter its life is

last thing I read sais a psu run at 50% output should last ten times longer than one run at 75%

(was awhile ago I read that tho....)

(75% because most PSUs are made to run at about 75% constant load, much over that and your killing it)

Sure its not 1/SQR(2) *100 = 70.71%?

As would make sense, if most cheaper PSUs list PMPO as their rated power output, 1/SQR(2) would result in the RMS value of power which is what the power ratings SHOULD be on the packaging :)

not saying your wrong, just giving some credibility to your figures there :)

Thats a seperate argument.  In power electronics you typically run things below their max capacity, be that an RMS or a p-p value.