I was just thinking not sleeping...
MICROSOFT:
2 Years of the xbox360 this month already and your average lifespan of a gen is 5 years.
I can see Microsoft not rushing to early with their next one so its silly early like the 360 but again launched at a good time earlier for the games to start rolling in.
XNA and the development kit for the next Microsoft console I can see being second to none and developers lapping that up right away
HDDVD as standard?
I just have a feeling that MS may ditch IBM for Intel and go quad core on the next machine with a duel core gpu or just a 9,10,11 series mobile chilp tweaked or duel core
SONY:
They keep going on about the PS3 lasting longer then their past playstations and I think it probably will, I can see number 4 (if it comes at all) being a year after Nintendo and MS machines at least. Sony will need to gain back money from other departments to cover the current losses of the gaming department before then to give a good enough budget for the development.
They are ditching cell chips very quickly and will be some form of quad core IBM chip I am sure and nothing fancy this time.
I do think Sony will learn their lesson with their development kits and coding for the machine but still be the harder of the 3
I think it will have less useless features but as the MS one will have some form of movie playback and download media center elements etc
They will ditch 6 axis for vibration again but not change the controller much in design
Nintendo:
No idea what they are going to do, ATI Graphics IBM chip, probably a 3core or cheaper quad core of some sort
I think they will keep the control system more or less but tweak it with a few more features, not sure what though
What things do you expect and think will happen?
Microsoft - off the shelf parts to around £400. A quieter optical drive and better cooling from the offset. No ring of lights :) A new brand name.
Sony - Cell based but with more/faster bits to go with it. Nu-Ray optical drive thatll put £800 on the base hardware cost.
Nintendo - A revised wii will come 1st I think.
SDP, it wont be cell, sony pulling out of it you know like already, nothing after ps3 for Sony
QuoteSony has decided to pull out of its joint deal with Toshiba and IBM to handle research and development on future processors with the 32nm process. Sony, Toshiba and IBM teams up to create the "Cell" processor that powers the PS3 but those were created with the 90nm and the new 65nm process. Earlier this year, Sony announce a deal that would give Toshiba ownership of the Cell processors manufacturing facilities.
Your probably right about the wii but more like 2 or 3 versions knowing Nintendo ^^
nah... think theyll go another route, I do think nintendo will be the first with non-touch interaction.
So the whole mind control game, or VR type games. Not in the near future... but I think they are the company that will see the use of a system and make games for it.
Both sony and MS are too strongly traditional for games companies to do that kinda thing.
QuoteIts almost two years to the day since Microsoft launched the Xbox 360. So you would expect its successor to be well on its way towards fruition. But Microsoft has dropped only a few subtle hints about what form it could take, and hasnt provided any details.
The most significant statement so far has been about timeframe. Supposedly, the next generation Xbox will arrive next decade, possibly 2011 or 2012.
So heres the bottom line for the Xbox in 2011, based on current trends and what we know is happening over the next few years. Check back here in 2011 to see if we were right!
* CPU/GPU - Integrated chip with 16 x 5GHz processor cores, 32 x 2GHz graphics cores
* Memory - 8GB GDDR8
* Media - Dual-format HD-DVD/Blu-ray drive for backwards compatibility and movies
* Storage - 4TB hard disk for online game (and movie) delivery
* Built-in camera - for gesture-based control
* Built-in microphone - for voice-recognised control
Unlikely.
Nexus that sentance you just posted does not say sony are pulling out of cell processors, its says they are not getting invovled with the 35nm developent and handing manufacturing over to toshiba.
Your reading something that is not there or you have posted a small bit of an article out of context. Either way I dont see why they would not carry on with the cell in one form or another.
I think Sony wiwll almost certainly stay with the cell processor. In fact its got to be a near certainty since theyre deploying it so widely. Theyre just stepping back from fabrication and staying in IP (which is what they do best).
I dont think you can realistically predict the amount of cores etc in the next xbox. The amount of new technologies available in the next 3 years will be huge and theres no reason to believe that multi cored systems will dominate. Id really not be suprised to see only a modest CPU in it. The rest should be in the form of 3 or 4 DSPs responsible for graphics, seperate lighting/shadow engine, a physics engine and an MPEG 3+4 decoder/transocder chip.
Theres no need for a huge CPU in the forseeable future. The physics engine changes in DirectX 11 are better suited to a DSP (or another graphics chip being misused) than a conventional processor.
Quote from: soopahflyCPU/GPU - Integrated chip with 16 x 5GHz processor cores, 32 x 2GHz graphics cores
Almost certainly not integrated. The heat dissipation would be too high on any upcoming architecture. 16 core may be reasonable, 5GHz probably not. Theyd be better having lots of slower cores and shift the fast things into DSPs.
Quote8GB GDDR8
8GB sounds about right. If they start chucking 1920*1088 video through it at 60fps and 6 channel colour (currently 25fps and 3 channel colour) then theyre going to need that kind of ballpark of memory. It probably wont be SDRam by that stage though.
QuoteMedia - Dual-format HD-DVD/Blu-ray drive for backwards compatibility and movies
Wishful thinking but itd probably be HD-DVD only. Although realistically if were looking 5 years from now both will probably have been bypassed. My money would be on network distributed games and no optical drive at all.
QuoteStorage - 4TB hard disk for online game (and movie) delivery
More likely dual memory. A fast access solid state system for run time which will be a lot smaller than 4TB. Then a massive storage capacity using a conventional disk or network storage. I could envisage Microsoft storing everything centrally. If they did local storage and wanted some kind of PVR features then 4TB is probably the right kind of figure. Microsoft can sell a ton of stuff, farm a ton of info and protect their systems from hacking by keeping everything on their central storage farms. It drops the cost of the system, it drops the weight, power consumption and size and makes them a ton of cash. Unless they include PVR in it then theyd be silly to put large solid state storage in the next console.
Im expecting the next Xbox to have an eight core CPU, 2-4GB memory. HD-DVD drive and a 500GB- 1TB storage solution. Agree that the DVD drive may be separate in order to maximise internet downloading use but by then it should be a twenty quid item.
Nintendo are spending too much time counting their Wii profits and making more to bother with designing a new console for the moment.
Sony needs to shoot its management through the head and get some new, and rather more competent, people in.
i believe Nintendo are already in teh r&d phase of a new console, concepting phase only without putting anything on the table.