As Apple released adverts on comparisons between PCs and MACs lately on the TV and net, almost everywhere to think of, I would like to see your opinions on which is better - PC or MAC.
Im intending to get a MAC soon too when the OS X Leopard is released. Seen the sneak peek pages of it on the Apple website and looks great!
Never used a Mac personally, the demo I was given of a laptop seemed to be more about the nice icons than if it did anything.
PC no question.
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Tongy
If funds where unlimited then MAC, as it is I use a PC.
PC, more versatile, more upgradeable, less expensive.
PC.
Postgrad in my house has a mac, and is of the same opinion of me. A PC when it breaks is piss easy to fix, if you have driver issues, or a program missing a dll or similar, you know what to do to fix it, and so you do.
A mac... if it breaks you just restart and hope that it isnt serious, cause if it is, itll have to be sent away and repaired at insane cost.
A mac looks pretty but ultimately now offers no benefit over a windows machine except for hardware standardisation.
if i didnt use 3d applications i would use a mac.
so much nicer to be on, better built.
Everyone I know who has a Mac also has Windows installed on their Mac. Thats enough to tell me that its not worth it.
If you are just doing the basics then it doesnt matter. A lot of people are buying notebooks which are expensive to fix despite who you buy them off.
Otherwise the PC does have the advantage of familiarity and low cost replacement parts, this really should not apply any more as the latest MAC OS works on what is basically a PC. Its a damn shame that Apple just dont admit the truth.
The PC though, as in M$ operating system, has an advantage of more software and especially games.
Really the Apple computers are Personal Computers, so there is technically no difference in the question. If you were to be a bit more specific then you would put IBM compatible PC, but IBM dont make them any more. As Apple now use Intel CPUs there is no difference there either.
So the real question is between M$ OS or Apples OS. With some fidgetting you can get the Apple one to run on alternate hardware. I havent used the Apple one enough to decide yet.
A totally different question is how much do you trust them? considering Apples DRM over its itunes, and previously, I dont trust either.
If you are just starting think of Linux as an option.
From a strict hardware standpoint: PC. Depending on the manufacturer you can do a lot better by the environment than the filthy Apple as well.
Quote from: maximusotterFrom a strict hardware standpoint: PC. Depending on the manufacturer you can do a lot better by the environment than the filthy Apple as well.
they are all as bad as each other, there are no companies that dont use some of the "Nasty" chemicals. Lead for instance is probably the best material for some high-dependancy components. They have decided to ban its usage in many countries, despite the alternatives not being as good.
Im going to get a Mac when the new OS X Leopard is released. As for what Id be using it for....well, have better net access than the PC (IE and other browsers apart from Firefox are slow!), use it to play music on, chat to friends via iChat or the Mac version of MSN Messenger and also store my photos on.
I think compared to Windows, the environment or UI of Macs shown in both OS X Tiger and the upcoming OS X Leopard, are much more user friendlier than Windows.
Quote from: BatchIm going to get a Mac when the new OS X Leopard is released. As for what Id be using it for....well, have better net access than the PC (IE and other browsers apart from Firefox are slow!).
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Hey guys, it just dawned on me that Batch is the PS2 loving fanboy, guess he might be a Mac fanboy too :P
ive voted PC, as i guess most people that use a computer for general internet, office, games, music, video etc would. but i beleive if you are doing things like webdesign, jorunalism etc macs are better.
2 completly different animals imo, but it seems apple are trying to lessen that.
I aint a fanboy of the mac or the ps2. Just into the PS2 but not a fanboy of it. Im considering getting a 360 soon along with the PS3. I got a laptop with windows and am getting a Mac computer too. I aint no fanboy at all.
Quote from: BatchIm going to get a Mac when the new OS X Leopard is released. As for what Id be using it for....well, have better net access than the PC (IE and other browsers apart from Firefox are slow!), use it to play music on, chat to friends via iChat or the Mac version of MSN Messenger and also store my photos on.
I think compared to Windows, the environment or UI of Macs shown in both OS X Tiger and the upcoming OS X Leopard, are much more user friendlier than Windows.
Except the use of the apple key for functions normally attributed to the ctrl key in windows, the use of non-standard keyboard layouts on the apple keyboards, the use of confusing menu bar and task bar systems leaving first time users wondering where options are.
The hiding of vital program menu items under the little "apple" sign.
No easy direct way of opening applications except from shortcuts on the desktop, or navigating through a finder window (akin to having to open all of ones programs using only windows file explorer).
Its a shoddily laid out and thought out operating system. Ive used it for basic surfing of the net, (safari is sh*tE!) and Ive used it for programming, and Ive used it for graphics and image editing, and web publishing.
All tasks I can achieve in a seemingly less convoluted way using a PC.
PC, I dont care how good Apple are their marketing really gets on my tits and the whole iThing winds me up.
edit: Podcast too, I hate that word.
Quote from: sdpedit: Podcast too, I hate that word.
Whats wrong with "podcast"?
Id go for Mac...
purely because their OS is absolutely superb, not that XP is bad, just that OS X is light years ahead in every way.
And i adore my Mac Mini (G4) - tiny, quiet, no heat and stable as a rock.
anyone commenting on this argument, who hasnt used both a mac and a windows PC for a decent length of time should do before commenting.
I be waiting for Leopard. Reason is that more new features and dont wanna have to upgrade a month or so after getting the Mac with OS X Tiger on.
Quote from: BadabingId go for Mac...
purely because their OS is absolutely superb, not that XP is bad, just that OS X is light years ahead in every way.
And i adore my Mac Mini (G4) - tiny, quiet, no heat and stable as a rock.
anyone commenting on this argument, who hasnt used both a mac and a windows PC for a decent length of time should do before commenting.
On the subject of stability, not necessarily the operating system, but I find that applications running upon it (G4 Tower thing) were flaky as hell, saving in photoshop caused a crash for example. That said it never randomly rebooted, well XP hasnt either except when theres something wrong with the hardware in the PC.
They are quiet though :)
I love the sound of quietness. I hate PCs making a big fan noise when you try do something on it.
lol yeah, I want a mac mainly for the smallness of it. Nice 12inch ibook, and a macmini (Yomp!) and the fact they are silent.
Dont want one cause they are better than a PC, cause in my experience and opinion they arent :) lol, but they look pretty.
Quote from: M3ta7h3adQuote from: BatchIm going to get a Mac when the new OS X Leopard is released. As for what Id be using it for....well, have better net access than the PC (IE and other browsers apart from Firefox are slow!), use it to play music on, chat to friends via iChat or the Mac version of MSN Messenger and also store my photos on.
I think compared to Windows, the environment or UI of Macs shown in both OS X Tiger and the upcoming OS X Leopard, are much more user friendlier than Windows.
Except the use of the apple key for functions normally attributed to the ctrl key in windows, the use of non-standard keyboard layouts on the apple keyboards, the use of confusing menu bar and task bar systems leaving first time users wondering where options are.
The hiding of vital program menu items under the little "apple" sign.
No easy direct way of opening applications except from shortcuts on the desktop, or navigating through a finder window (akin to having to open all of ones programs using only windows file explorer).
Its a shoddily laid out and thought out operating system. Ive used it for basic surfing of the net, (safari is sh*tE!) and Ive used it for programming, and Ive used it for graphics and image editing, and web publishing.
All tasks I can achieve in a seemingly less convoluted way using a PC.
thats horsesh*t, mac osx is the only real operating system to use natural layout ergonomics in their design, so its just your damn silly way of thinking where options should be had. dont think where it is, just go with your gut instinct, and PRESTO!!! its there.
thats why its good for creatives, they have little or no computer experience nad they can work it fine, AND churn out fantastic pieces of work.
every single piece of graphics, photography, media you see is generated on, wait for it....
MAC!!!! (sweeping gesture, there are exceptions)
Hi Im a mac and Im for fun. But you cant play any games really. So Not much fun.
Hi Im a PC, and get stereotyped as a boring git. But look. I can run a million times more cool stuff than the mac! Whos for fun now?
Macs never have to restart or freeze up compared to Macs :D. Also, I want the mac to not have a slow computer.
PCs dont freeze up unless your a n00b and click everything on the net that pops up and says "Click me"
And it seems you bought into the nonsense that Macs were quicker despite being proved otherwise time and time again.
Quote from: BatchI love the sound of quietness. I hate PCs making a big fan noise when you try do something on it.
My PC doesnt..... Besides, Macs are just the same hardware now anyway, so this ia a mute point.
Depends on what PC it is walrusbonzo. I used to have an eMachines 420 before it got burnt out and unrepairable! So now I have a spare monitor (CRT 17") and accessories.
I will be posting a FS thread for the monitor and the accessories now.
LOL.
Ah, things are becoming clearer.
I couldnt possibly try and convert the buyer of off the peg PCs.
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I see the problem here
If youd said which is better Macs or eMachines, I think the poll would have come out somewhat differently
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FTW!
I agree :stupid: Its better than a MAC anyway! :twisted:
Ive got an Acorn Electron kicking about somewhere....
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I thought this was quite funny
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2006031,00.html
This (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5687841345102464662&q=mac+spoof) sums up my experience with Macs
After 2 years of supporting them in a company I never want to touch one ever again.
edit: Some swearing in video
Lol @ Macs
Quote"So when you see the ads, you think, "PCs are a bit rubbish yet ultimately lovable, whereas Macs are just smug, preening tossers." In other words, it is a devastatingly accurate campaign."
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QuoteA. I dont hate Macs. I personally have no use for them, but that doesnt mean I hate Macs. I do, however, dislike annoying Mac fanboys who cant take a joke about their precious computer, and enjoy seeing them get all bent out of shape..."
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