http://water-cooling.com/test
I been creating the new site for this seen at the link
I am doing it on an internal server setup but uploaded a fair chunk to the test site for viewings
I know there some things to fix in the browsers etc but asking for looks in one regard here.
Could vista users look at the site in firefox or IE and say if the sharethis, rss and c buttons next to the search and subscribe text fields are next to them - adjacent and not messed up down the bottom in the shop section?
I have been having some odd issues in this regard for different browsers and resolutions and fixed them but then the issue has appeared but only in vista apparently and I wanted to check if it was the case for everyone
If you could post a screenshot if it looks messed up and the resolution you are at on vista that would be cool
If anyone has any ideas why it would do that if it is the case, that would be great as well
think its f**ked
vista 64bit & firefox
(http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5796/64cb8.jpg)
It doesnt work in FF for me on XP in 1680x.
(http://www.palmer934.plus.com/wc1.jpg)
The buttons mess up if the text is enlarged (ctrl+wheel) and the links along the top are in a vertical list. The buttons do look ok if you make the text smaller tho.
Opera is better but still a tad off;
(http://www.palmer934.plus.com/wc2.jpg)
Looks fine in IE6.
I have not touched opera style sheet yet so that is ok
As for the menu thing in xp - ctrl f5, it is a server cache thing I can not fix or replicate and an issue with the CMS that will go away on a clean install when it goes live
Thanks for the pics though, I do not know how to fix the other thing as it is basic code but have an idea to make it even simpler that may work if not a bit fidley but seems to be related to different font generation per software making the font larger
Cant stop site messing up when people scroll unless I read up if you can fix the font size so people make it larger it wont budge in terms of the menu etc.
How are things now, made some improvements, less code
OP styling going in now as I type, just some tweaks to do on that and I know ie needs re-doing again but thought to check ff first
Hopefully the work on the code I been doing should sort that
For me the site works in IE7, 6, ff, opera latest and opera 9.1 and safari on a mac and xp, dunnu about vista but so far all those browsers have their slight differences becuase they are different but the site holds its style, need to tidy up code to speed up but looks fine now
Bloody thing, well hope it does in vista
still not good
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8629/dgeu9.jpg
Got the same problem as Egg, XP/IE7/1680x.
Yeah I noticed, been ill last few days but I created a better code and detection script for OS and Browser so when Paulus is about I can lock down the issues
In terms of the problem with OS and its handing with forms I have fixed it now just need to position things properly.
An issue you get you see is not only browser but it seems OS and vista in the most visual way render differently in terms of the forms causing problems in close spaces and why I can see more ajax and flash forms used in these small areas of sites.
As you can see in this image: http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8629/dgeu9.jpg the width of the form fields is wrong under vista even if your force the issue in the css and the width in the html of the form code so you have to do it OS specific or go nuts with ajax of flash
Thank you all for the help
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2266/2284977475_c76a098c70_o_d.gif
in IE7, 1280x1024
Looks good, if a little misaligned with the blue bar.
why not just place the icons in the jpg where they supposed to be & just image map hot link them?
Likely would fall foul of accessibility guidelines from the W3C. Basically no screen reader software would work correctly, and no enlargement of text using the inbuilt functions of the browser.
Granted the above guidelines arent law, but its nicer to have a site thats compliant, and also has the ability to resize according to the resolution of the persons screen (again not possible using imagemaps reallllly..)
When Im having layout issues this is always the first thing I do:
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwater-cooling.com%2Ftest%2F
Things tend to become more predictable once youre actually using valid code.
Quote from: cornetWhen Im having layout issues this is always the first thing I do:
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwater-cooling.com%2Ftest%2F
Things tend to become more predictable once youre actually using valid code.
I know this and this is not practical or applies to me since I am using a CMS of which does code a bit gay and produces errors, my template is compliant however
I can do clever and amazing things in xhtml and css, more then most. I am like the msn guru with the questions asked me every day, lol
I sorted all the issues out anyway, it is just when you work with a cms and you also trying something a little different even simple stuff causes issues - forms and a cmss way to generate forms is a pain sometimes anyway but vista was being gay and is gay
I can do ajax forms now so next time they will be full my design through css and ajax
I have no doubt in your abilities.... and you have just described one of the main reasons I hate many CMS programs (mambo/joomla in particular) .
Drupal all the way for me and Ive never had an issue making it compliant :)
Yeah Im one of those always asking neXus odd questions, hes always got an answer too 8-)
Our CMS can be just as badly behaved, thats the problem you always have to work around your limitations.
Has Nige says you get some sort of things with all CMS it is just their nature because of the hard coding
I and My friend Richard have had some ideas about doing our own and forums as well in .net and we had some great ideas about how to create them to avoid such problems and offer a lot of control. Sams is very impressive from what I have seen and he has to be very happy of how that has come on but he is not great in terms of the style and what it means to make one with this in mind.
I cant do such things on my tod though and if I get one of these jobs I may pitch some of the ideas I have all the time to them Or do something with someone else
Drupal though I have heard about but will have a closer look at
That also brings me to another thing - joomla is nice But I could improve that by scrapping its table use - it uses far to much code to do things and say if me and nige went through it all we could do a joomla X or something that would be a lot more streamlined but do the same thing and be far less code and far less table use.
I got/get To many ideas for things Me :rofl: