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Title: tekforums on my phone
Post by: DEViANCE on January 04, 2011, 19:31:17 PM
since I have upgraded my phone to android 2.2 I have noticed a problem when I browse the forum.

After a couple of thread views the page loading bar comes up with :www.tekforum.co.uk/ping_session.jsp

and it never finishes loading and doesnt let me stop it or navigate away from the page, I have to end the application in task manager.

never had it on 2.1

Anyone know what it is?

Cheers
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 04, 2011, 22:24:46 PM
Its what is called every few minutes to refresh and ping to keep your session active.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: DEViANCE on January 04, 2011, 22:46:15 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeIts what is called every few minutes to refresh and ping to keep your session active.

any idea why it would crash my browser on my android phone?
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 04, 2011, 22:55:50 PM
I have no idea, is the phone using a specific browser?

The only problem might be a small typo in the file, it looks like there is a space in the closing tag, maybe that is causing it to not render properly and crash? I cant fix it from here though.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: soopahfly on January 05, 2011, 11:44:40 AM
Doesnt do it on mine, but it does keep zooming out and moving to the top when this ping happens.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: soopahfly on January 05, 2011, 17:30:58 PM
2011 should be the year that the finger is pulled out, move to something like vBulletin, IPBoard, phpBB or SMF and Tapatalk.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 05, 2011, 17:56:37 PM
Im more than happy to get get moving on it, its getting the db exported or converted that needs the efforts of Mr Samuel but hes got a real job these days so hes always too busy.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: soopahfly on January 05, 2011, 18:18:08 PM
Woohoo.

/me is looking forward to future "f**kdates"
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: shofty on January 07, 2011, 09:55:43 AM
Quote from: soopahfly2010 should be the year that the finger is pulled out, move to something like vBulletin, IPBoard, phpBB or SMF and Tapatalk.

fixed it for you!!!!

I cant see the reliance on sam converting the data, just bin it, most of it is junk.
set some forums on an another server (do i have to offer hosting space again?) and copy and paste the few interesting stickied threads. itd take about half an hour if we all mucked in.

but for gods sake, just get on with it already instead of this fake hope that someone is gonna do something to bin this crappy software and hopefully get tekforums back up there with some decent traffic and interesting threads on a seo aware forum that will advertise itself. or finally admit that you like the fact you know everyone and that this place is small and easy to run.

isnt tapatalk phone software for using ipb forums?
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: Rivkid on January 07, 2011, 10:07:23 AM
Quote from: bytejunkieor finally admit that you like the fact you know everyone and that this place is small and easy to run.


Dont think thats ever been a big secret for most people! Thats EXACTLY why I love this place!
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: soopahfly on January 07, 2011, 10:35:49 AM
Tapatalk can be used on any of the forum software I put above.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 07, 2011, 10:48:56 AM
To be honest bytejunkie, no one really has to lift a finger around here any more because its so quiet, if you really think I prefer it like this as opposed to when I was moderating at the busiest times, running competitions, etc you could not be further from the mark.

Every time we lose all the posts and everyone has to rejoin as a member we lose a flock of people. You probably think that doesnt matter any more but I would rather do it properly or not at all, and not start again with yet another blank canvas for the same 20 or 30 people to fill.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: shofty on January 07, 2011, 20:18:27 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeI would rather do it properly or not at all,

ok then, sam is busy. lets ask on odesk for someone to write a convertor. $50 will get it done. maybe a 100. ill pitch 10% of whatever in... who else is in?
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: neXus on January 07, 2011, 20:43:07 PM
Know dig at Sam but over the years he has not been reliable. When he is in the role of only one who can really do stuff for the forums and doesnt then its not a good thing. Even being legitimately busy, one and a half people with the ability to sort or manage the forum software/server isnt good.

Every instance of the forums getting messed up and we loosing people could have been avoided, even the domain loss.

Giving it under a platform with more support, more of a community behind it and something more people can get at or manage the better. The thing that I have said before that needs to happen though is some marketing to 1. Tell people who left to see if they come back, 2. Get new people in.

Forums in the modern world are dead and not envolved with the rest of the web. Introducing elements like social medium (who here does not have a twitter or facebook?) for example (in the right way) would also take it further.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: Bacon on January 08, 2011, 01:58:03 AM
Twitter and Facebook dont have the organisation of forums, some of us like separated threads and stickies :P I actually prefer forums.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: Sam on January 08, 2011, 02:24:51 AM
Quote from: neXusKnow dig at Sam but over the years he has not been reliable. When he is in the role of only one who can really do stuff for the forums and doesnt then its not a good thing. Even being legitimately busy, one and a half people with the ability to sort or manage the forum software/server isnt good.

Every instance of the forums getting messed up and we loosing people could have been avoided, even the domain loss.

Giving it under a platform with more support, more of a community behind it and something more people can get at or manage the better. The thing that I have said before that needs to happen though is some marketing to 1. Tell people who left to see if they come back, 2. Get new people in.

Forums in the modern world are dead and not envolved with the rest of the web. Introducing elements like social medium (who here does not have a twitter or facebook?) for example (in the right way) would also take it further.

Wow. No wonder you rub people up the wrong way. "he has not been reliable". Yeah Ive been a complete bastard havent I providing hosting for the forum for years for free (not busy now but it once was) with the many multitude of hours that went with that. All youve ever done is bang on about New Zealand and how youre the best web designer in Oceania. I thought you were delusional before but this takes the biscuit. The saddest part is you honestly have no clue how you come across.

Ive got a converter written Nige, and Ill happily muck in and get the data migrated. But were waiting on someone to setup a new forum or at least decide what/where/how were hosting. I dont mind paying for it if someone else monitors it.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 08, 2011, 10:02:46 AM
Cool, lets get it going then, Im happy to host or monitor it either way so really we just need to decide on the software.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: soopahfly on January 08, 2011, 11:00:16 AM
I think if Tekheads want to keep their name at the top, they should put their hands in their pocket too.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: soopahfly on January 08, 2011, 11:01:30 AM
Quote from: Clockd 0Newe just need to decide on the software.

If we want to use Tapatalk :

Q: Which forum system does it currently support?
A: Currently phpBB3 3.0.x, vBulletin 3.7.x/3.8.x/4.0.x, Invision Power Board (IPB) 3.0.x and Simple Machine Forum (SMF) 1.1.x/2.0.x are supported.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 08, 2011, 11:14:45 AM
Okay Im not up to speed, which of phpBB/IPB/vBulletin/SMF is the most practical and secure option? The best ones cost a wedge but then they are the most secure, but if one is free and just as good we should shoot for that.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: soopahfly on January 08, 2011, 11:20:21 AM
I dont think it matters looking at this :

http://www.forum-software.org/forum-reviews?sort=best-rated

Vbulletin and SMF get 10/10, ones free ones commercial.
PHPbb is 9/10

JForum : 7/10
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: shofty on January 08, 2011, 16:28:14 PM
most feature rich - vbulletin

most secure - ipb

smf is a new one on me, phpbb should be avoided at all costs.

Sam, dont take nexus the wrong way, but you wrote the converter in february or some such time. this isnt a dig, cos im with you right now, all spare time is spent on making cash, cos these are tough times. but you are rticky to engage with a mini project like this.

either way, it sounds like we have some momentum now.

so if whoever has control of the domain wants to point testing.tekforums.co.uk at 85.13.251.106 ill make available some hosting.

if anyone else who has spare hosting wants to chip in and offer their server, then paste the ip address and let whoever is in control of the domain choose a LAMP server to put this new syste, on.

Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: soopahfly on January 08, 2011, 16:30:26 PM
Ive got space/bandwidth available.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: Sam on January 08, 2011, 16:32:13 PM
Quote from: bytejunkieSam, dont take nexus the wrong way, but you wrote the converter in february or some such time. this isnt a dig, cos im with you right now, all spare time is spent on making cash, cos these are tough times. but you are rticky to engage with a mini project like this.

Another person commenting on something they dont know about.

I wrote the convertor for Andy @ Tekheads, because he owns the domain, and he told me he wanted to move the site away. Nothing came of that. I dont really care if we move or not, so Im only going to move in response to something telling me its happening.

But I tell you what, Ill step away, happy to let you and Nexus take over. Probably be finished by tomorrow night I imagine. Well done lads.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: soopahfly on January 08, 2011, 16:40:39 PM
Im installing SMF on my hosting so we can have a play if you like.

Im hosting 3 sites on my hosting, and using 0.07% of the space and unlimited bandwidth.


http://www.checkyourbadself.co.uk/tekforum

Can provide admin account on request.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: neXus on January 08, 2011, 22:18:09 PM
Quote from: SamWow. No wonder you rub people up the wrong way. "he has not been reliable". Yeah Ive been a complete bastard havent I providing hosting for the forum for years for free (not busy now but it once was) with the many multitude of hours that went with that. All youve ever done is bang on about New Zealand and how youre the best web designer in Oceania. I thought you were delusional before but this takes the biscuit. The saddest part is you honestly have no clue how you come across.
I do not, Only a few people here who seem to ignore things other then looking for comments that attack them and then return the favour even when they are not there.

Link here exact elements where i constantly go on about New Zealand and show the comments about who I say I am am the best designer. You cant. I sit here and pull countless comments complementing you and your work by ME and comments BY ME stating I have a lot to learn etc. Again Sam please stop fishing and looking for stuff and getting stuff in your head that simply does not exist. Just please STOP THIS! Making sh*t up and getting this stupid mindset in your head about things that never happen or are true is silly!
It is comments like this that people read and ignore actual fact and assume a thought about a person.

Maybe I could have added a whole new paragraph of rubbish to explain that sentence but not reliable does not mean someone or something is useless. If something is not reliable it is not nessarily their own fault and I go on to say that!!!!!!!!!!
You also again neglect ANY other comments about these forums and server and again in these I have paid you complements and praised your efforts! Some people were even having a go at you about the domain loss.
We were still talking on MSN and I even defended you!

Even with you posting on here crap about me for a time you were asking me things and I tried to help you on stuff, thats who I am I like helping people. Even with you trashing me on here.

Just stop it Sam, your a nice guy, do not go any further down the road to a total Dick.

Your not reliable, and its not your fault. Your busy. It is a simple fact (as I stated) that one person with the ability to do something is not enough. If they are not able to do something then it is a simple fact that it does not get done. This is not reliable.

In terms of providing hosting for the fourms... You yea have but Again Just about anyone who is a regular here has and continues to say they can provide hosting or help pay for hosting if need be when there has been major issues or problems in this area. It is not that your the only one wanting to offer help and run the forums because that is simply not true.

Quote from: SamIve got a converter written Nige, and Ill happily muck in and get the data migrated. But were waiting on someone to setup a new forum or at least decide what/where/how were hosting. I dont mind paying for it if someone else monitors it.
And as above - Lots of us here as we have for years have offered to help on this and more.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: neXus on January 08, 2011, 22:33:21 PM
Quote from: Sam
Quote from: bytejunkieSam, dont take nexus the wrong way, but you wrote the converter in february or some such time. this isnt a dig, cos im with you right now, all spare time is spent on making cash, cos these are tough times. but you are rticky to engage with a mini project like this.

Another person commenting on something they dont know about.

I wrote the convertor for Andy @ Tekheads, because he owns the domain, and he told me he wanted to move the site away. Nothing came of that. I dont really care if we move or not, so Im only going to move in response to something telling me its happening.

But I tell you what, Ill step away, happy to let you and Nexus take over. Probably be finished by tomorrow night I imagine. Well done lads.

Anything negative even if its not your fault in something and you have a go at people Sam. Stop it. Why do you ignore every complement or nice thing said to you and anything else you just act and have a go at people?
He is right, talk about a converter and moving away from this software was going pretty much as soon as this forum software had a lot of posts on it. Nige was asking about it and passing info to you about things from what I knew a long while ago. Do not know if you knew they came from me but yep - Still offer help when asked no matter what you think.

Sam just stop it, really PLEASE, you just look a Dick and your not!

You know the converter you wrote as well. You can make money off that. People on the forums for this software have been looking and asking for one for ages.
If you went on there and said you got one and set a simple one page site with paypal to get payments for it you can make quite a bit of money from it. If I was you I would because you wold make a nice bit of cash.

Anyway...

As has been discussed many times..

Vbulletin and SMF.
It is just which one of these.

There are a few people here willing in terms of maintenance and coding that know both of these.
I update and manage both and both have a good community. I would say the SMF addons and extras and temptemplating  is more manageable. Modding addons or writing my own for SMF I have found a lot easier and the server load and code length to be a lot less then Vbulletin. But I have used Vbulletin a lot less.

I still have clients using Invision and since its gone paid their support is terrible when I have had to deal with them and it does seem a mess in terms of addons, support etc. The forums themselves are tight as hell though. The admin is crap! but as mentioned they are secure.

As Others will say if money needs to be put in paypal for something I am happy to throw some mulla in there as well.

Again to Sam....
Having to rely on you and basically only you with Nige doing some things to manage and handle forum with hosting and domain etc is NOT FAIR. Doing it for Free and being busy and with you going to the US etc and perusing your ambitions and just being busy you can not have any form of focus on these forums. And it has shown. You can not deny that. The major cock ups to the forum could have been avoided.
The domain thing was a booboo and If it was me I would even be raising my hand to that one.

Just as with work or any company, you should not have one person holding all the info etc. If they are not around and its needed or something needs to be done - your f**ked!
We store all our clients passwords and info on a secure password management system because as I am sure you have done when you go ask them - they have no clue. Getting clients of existing sites (like me a week before xmas) they just have no clue. I was on the phone to hosting companies (luckily who know us) and managed to get the rest stuff sent to my email as the details were for a person who had left the company and whos email was dead.

When it was on PHP I remember a few people had access to it and could do things on it. And you can not deny that it was nice.

I remember some bugs or some requests came in for some changes or fixes or improvements and you had always got someone who was "yeah, sure i am around I will look into it"

Sam, relying on one person is not reliable. Tell me that is not the case?
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: BigSoy on January 08, 2011, 22:56:30 PM
Another year, and were still small, but threads like this are still the most entertaining place on the web for me  8-)
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 09, 2011, 00:41:21 AM
The new forums are coming soon. An announcement will be made shortly.

Watch this space...
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: Bacon on January 09, 2011, 02:23:55 AM
All i can say is, every time we have these discussions about the forums it turns into a battle of who has the biggest dick.

Nige is on the case, nuff said :P
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: soopahfly on January 09, 2011, 16:57:53 PM
I do, obviously.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: shofty on January 09, 2011, 21:13:56 PM
Quote from: Sam
Quote from: bytejunkieSam, dont take nexus the wrong way, but you wrote the converter in february or some such time. this isnt a dig, cos im with you right now, all spare time is spent on making cash, cos these are tough times. but you are rticky to engage with a mini project like this.

Another person commenting on something they dont know about.
i post, i read, im not inner circle, so enlighten me fella, talk to me, communicate, what dont i know about?

...

thought not. you really know how to twist a comment to play the martyr dont you?

Quote from: SamI wrote the convertor for Andy @ Tekheads, because he owns the domain, and he told me he wanted to move the site away. Nothing came of that. I dont really care if we move or not, so Im only going to move in response to something telling me its happening.

andy owns this domain? i think its time he gave it up. anyone else worried about this site being owned by a corporate entity?

Quote from: SamBut I tell you what, Ill step away, happy to let you and Nexus take over. Probably be finished by tomorrow night I imagine. Well done lads.

i could host, skin and upload a forum in hours, as could you. i couldnt and wouldnt attempt to write a converter. but hey, youve known for ****ing ages how many people want to sort this place out, want cookies, logins, SEO urls, growth, real busy threads without inhouse bickering and bullying, but you still neglected to tell us the converter was done? last we heard youd put phpbb on and was writing it. real team player arent you.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: shofty on January 09, 2011, 21:14:28 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeThe new forums are coming soon. An announcement will be made shortly.

Watch this space...

good work geez.
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: soopahfly on January 09, 2011, 22:16:07 PM
Quote from: bytejunkieim not inner circle.

Who told you about the inner circle??
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 09, 2011, 22:23:40 PM
It really is almost there and with Sams help we hopefully wont lost any posts by doing this. A lot does go on behind the scenes (theres no innner circle beyond me and Sam for most of what has transpired) and a lot of times Sam has come through to save the forums many times when others might have simply let it die - there have been a lot of problems that have gone unnoticed because he fixed them so quickly - I think those jumping on him over the big keelovers in the past should, at this point, just let it go and be thankful weve had such a good forum still with us to this day - despite the cack software.

Now lets drive it forward without all this pissing into the wind; just think about the proper moderation, embedded youtube, spoiler tags, thread notifications that work and all the other lovely things. Its all going to be so good again 8-)
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: matt5cott on January 09, 2011, 22:39:18 PM
Quote from: soopahfly
Quote from: bytejunkieim not inner circle.

Who told you about the inner circle??

Some bad boys.


Ill get my coat.  :w00t:



Amusing thread none the less :lol:
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: DEViANCE on January 09, 2011, 23:02:58 PM
meh bring back bigforums  :rock:
Title: Re:tekforums on my phone
Post by: neXus on January 10, 2011, 04:25:45 AM
I just wanted to say I get really annoyed with the comments about things that just never happend or are true. Sam pulled out the NZ and Im the best designer comments and that was not true.
I lashed out.

I have sent Sam a PM to try and get sorted, he is a great guy and would be good to get on base again and I actually would work with him on some startups / web applications etc that could do well even.
As I keep saying and as can be seen I have a go when I have been had a go at. I do not back down and that does me harm as well as good, it is something you got to take. I was their and backed down and bullied. f**k that. I will stick up for myself and my views, to many people even here back down.
People who get proven wrong or who come across people like me sometimes do not like that so you but heads.

Sam TBH has had some pretty bad digs to me especially and I hope to get to the bottom of it to sort it all out, there are other things you guys are not aware of and actual quite a lot of time by me spent trying or helping Sam out on a few things over the years.

If Sam is up to get things sorted I have always been willing and looking to do that now.

[size=18]Sam cool port code to new forum software - Great stuff, he can make money from that sh*t. Get that going, a few of us here with skills and willing to help get new forum working and looking mint. Have a drive to get some new and old folk back on and lets have a great 2011 forum and kick some ass and carry on with some amazing threads.
I am game if you ar[/size]e.


Matt I am on the MSN if you want to have chats as well and you will see I am a nice guy once you get away from the static text of a forum as well.