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Title: Transformers
Post by: Quixoticish on July 22, 2007, 18:43:29 PM
Admittedly Im completely biased due to a childhood love of the subject matter, and Im and almost certain that it wont appeal to many on here, but did anyone catch the advanced screenings of Transformers?

I went in expecting to be disappointed, after all Michael Bay hasnt exactly brought us masterpieces in the past, but I was pleasantly surprised and soon ended up sucked in by the film.

I dont want to say too much in case I spoil it for those who are interested but if you approach it with an open mind Im sure youll find quite a bit worthy of merit. In many ways it was very much in the spirit of the original cartoon but adapted quite well for the big screen. Itll never be cinematic genius given both the source material and the director but if nothing else its by far the best popcorn flick of the summer. Ive certainly never seen such a large audience leave a cinema with such big grins on their faces.
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: SteveF on July 22, 2007, 18:46:22 PM
roll on wednesday is all I can say.

Die Hard 4.0 last week rocked my world and Im hoping for the same from Transformers this week :)
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: Madrocker on July 22, 2007, 18:48:31 PM
transformers was awsome!!!!

But I too am biased.
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: White Giant on July 22, 2007, 23:58:48 PM
I thought it was ace.

Too much of the kid, not enough of the Transformers, but with the cost of the CGI Im not suprised.

One little thing, at times it was difficult to tell which was which.

Has anyone read the prequel book? I saw it in a shop a few weeks ago but couldnt afford it.

AND WHERE WAS SOUNDWAVE?"?"?"?oneoneeleven. He was my favourite from when I was a kid.
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: Quixoticish on July 23, 2007, 00:10:03 AM
Quote from: White GiantI thought it was ace.

Too much of the kid, not enough of the Transformers, but with the cost of the CGI Im not suprised.

One little thing, at times it was difficult to tell which was which.

Has anyone read the prequel book? I saw it in a shop a few weeks ago but couldnt afford it.

AND WHERE WAS SOUNDWAVE?"?"?"?oneoneeleven. He was my favourite from when I was a kid.

I agree with your points, although I imagine the kid was there for the whole human interest angle. I mean, starting off straight from the Transformers view would have been great for anyone who knows about them and grew up with them but it would have alienated joe public who werent children of the 80s. I imagine the next movie will be more Transformer centric now the scene has been set.

I agree with the difficulty telling which is which, moreso with the decepticons than the autobots. The latter were colourful as is the norm so it wasnt too bad, but the bad guys suffered a bit from stormtrooper syndrome at times.

I ordered the prequel comic today, Ill let you know what its like when it arrives.

With regards to Soundwave he was originally planned to be in but transforming into something different (they didnt want mass shifting on the transformers so him turning into a cassette deck would be a bit daft). Eventually they just cut him completely, rumour has it hes in the second one though. There were quite a few cut characters, apparently Arcee was modelled and rendered and everything as a nifty pink sports bike but due to a combination of fan requests and not wanting more rivet counter type questions about why there is a transformer woman when they dont appear to reproduce sexually (believe it or not) they cut her and replaced her with Ironhide. Good trade off if you ask me although like Soudnwave it would be good to see her in the second one.

We can only hope that Hot Rod isnt in the second one. Whiny piece of crap that he is.  8)
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: White Giant on July 23, 2007, 00:57:04 AM
Bring on Rodimus Prime!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: Quixoticish on July 23, 2007, 01:01:35 AM
Quote from: White GiantBring on Rodimus Prime!  :mrgreen:

 :puke:  :evil:
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: twist on July 28, 2007, 05:57:46 AM
Oh man it was amazing...

Could have been a lot better... but i loved every minute of it none the less

and as a side note - JESUS the CGI was absolutely stunning!
Title: Transformers
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on July 28, 2007, 08:35:30 AM
It was alright, but found it far too childish in my view.

I dont know maybe ive just grown up since I last watched this stuff, but the agent trying to be funny just came across as annoying.

The fight scenes, and everything else... AWESOME.. but the annoying "S7" bollocks just took the edge off.
Title: Transformers
Post by: Serious on July 28, 2007, 08:40:12 AM
Quote from: Chris HAdmittedly Im completely biased due to a childhood love of the subject matter, and Im and almost certain that it wont appeal to many on here,

The idea certainly appealed, large robots doing massive damage draws in a lot of us. /remembers someone burning teddies... :twisted:

Scripts though were a tad weak.

I saw one bit where Optimus tears off the roof of a car. If the cgi is up to that standard then its got a lot going for it. All depends on the script though.

Doubt if it will outdo the latest Harry Potter movie.
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: White Giant on July 28, 2007, 11:58:12 AM
Ofc it wont touch the new Harry Pooper, but still its a cracking film.
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 29, 2007, 14:51:01 PM
Pretty damn good IMO! Im no fanboy but I still enjoyed it immensely, the CGI was spectacular, the script was good enough to keep the story moving and even the kid wasnt so annoying. Bay has come up with something pretty special.

What a wasted opportunity for an immense battle at the Hoover dam though...

 :w00t:  :w00t:  :w00t:  :w00t:
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: soopahfly on July 29, 2007, 16:21:22 PM
Why the hell was bumblebee a Camaro? He was a VW Beetle FFS!
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: Quixoticish on July 29, 2007, 16:33:42 PM
Quote from: soopahflyWhy the hell was bumblebee a Camaro? He was a VW Beetle FFS!

IMDB answers all:

QuoteWhy is Bumblebee not a VW Beetle?
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Several reasons have been given for the change.

One of the reasons is because producers couldnt get rights from VW to use a Beetle. VW didnt want their product being associated with a violent film.

In an interview with Wired Magazine, Michael Bay also stated that he made the change because he wanted the mass of the Transformers in robot form to be believable compared to their vehicle form, and thus a VW would have resulted in Bumblebee being much smaller in robot form.

Another reason is that Bay wanted to avoid comparisons to Herbie the Love Bug, and that he felt that Bumblebee needed an updated look. Thus, Bumblebee was changed from a VW Beetle to a Camaro.

We do briefly see Bumblebee next to an old (1971) VW Beetle early on in the film, however, in a nod to his past.
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: soopahfly on July 29, 2007, 16:39:50 PM
So he was changed to a Gay Ass american tank.
What was with the one that was a pontiac solstice?  Thats a small-ish car.
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: Quixoticish on July 29, 2007, 16:42:16 PM
Quote from: soopahflySo he was changed to a Gay Ass american tank.
What was with the one that was a pontiac solstice?  Thats a small-ish car.

Get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: White Giant on July 29, 2007, 18:32:30 PM
I think the pontiac was Jazz?
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: madmax on July 30, 2007, 21:00:18 PM
aye think it was jazz
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: Cypher on August 01, 2007, 22:30:55 PM
Just been to see it.  That was absolutely top notch.  You dont need to know anything about transformers to enjoy it.

Frenzy gets the thumbs up on style.
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: jamieL on August 01, 2007, 23:56:58 PM
Absolutely amazing I thought! I liked the fact they seperated the funny parts with the serious parts. When it was funny, it was bloody funny. When it was serious, it was goosebump-serious.

Loved every minute of it! And the CGI was astonishing.. The amount of detail in everything and how well it all moved and blended in with real life environments..


I want to go and see it again :D It definately wont be the same on DVD as the cinema experience though.
Title: Re:Transformers
Post by: SteveF on August 02, 2007, 03:32:45 AM
That was simply f**king amazing.

There was a point at which I turned to one fo the 6 people with me and comented that this could possibly be a perfect film.  I expected special effects, I expected cheesyness and I expected total destruction.  I didnt expect to wet myself laughing the whole way through the film!

Almost certainly the best film of the year so far but definitely the funniest!

Awesome - if you do nothing else - go see this film!

Die Hard 4.0 is the second best so far this year.


Im actually going to see it again tomorrow night.  And Ive not done that since Se7en.