Been running the new RTM os on a couple of machines over the past few days, and this is my verdict.
Where it looks very nice if you have the hardware, its still very buggy.
I keep getting errors of "Com Surrogate has Stopped Responding", Cant communicate with my NAS via SMB, even when I mess with the settings in Secpol.
Explorer crashes more times than Win95a.
Very quick file searches, has the potential to be very very good.
But just falls short.
Running Bit Torrent seems to get the oss knickers in a twist too.
Shame. Stuck with XP for a while longer I think.
Vista - Mac OS 95 ;)
Cue another 5 Mac/linux fanboy posts :lol:
Ill be switching once I upgrade my system, the full release will work well.
This is the full release. Its the RTM, non beta, posted on the MSDN suscriber website version. Full fat, not abused by any outside source.
Its very buggy still, and shouldnt be considered as a RC.
Ill wait another 4-6 months I think... still waiting on Hauppage to release some decent Vista drivers anyways. (Vista MCE is fantastic imo)
Im sure the final release will be whiz bang and allow for unintentional mayonnaising of young boys underpants, as long as you meet the hardware requirements. Hey I dont even mind XP, once you eviscerate it, and cut out the weak parts, and ones that invade your privacy. But for all of the rectal digital massage that Vista offers, it also seems to promise "to get all up in yo bidness" as we say down here.
Vista offers no compelling and revolutionary changes compared to XP. Whatever, makes no difference. MS will make money from licensing anyway, and MS Office will continue its lumbering across the landscape, surviving soley on sucking the remains of young lovers from Volkswagon Beetles.
To sum up, a small sketch:
Customer: Can this computer run my favorite internet browser?
Tech: Yeah.
Customer: Can I steal porn and watch said porn on it?
Tech: Uh, huh.
Customer: Ring it up.
Quote from: KunalIll wait another 4-6 months I think... still waiting on Hauppage to release some decent Vista drivers anyways. (Vista MCE is fantastic imo)
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Although maxi has a point, itll just be more junk filled than xp.
These days you have to keep up with the times. I for one will look forward to having a legitimate OS that I can keep updated, supports all the latest hardware, 64-bit, applications, etc. and be safe in the knowledge I wont need to bother changing it until post 2010.
Quote from: Clockd 0NeThese days you have to keep up with the times. I for one will look forward to having a legitimate OS that I can keep updated, supports all the latest hardware, 64-bit, applications, etc. and be safe in the knowledge I wont need to bother changing it until post 2010.
Oh, you mean an updated and patched XP? :lol:
Well the past few windows have been awful with both bugs and security flaws until after atleast the first or even second (windows nt) service pack.
I very much doubt vista will be any different, this is how ms works, let the users find the bugs.
I will let it settle until at least the first service pack.
Quote from: maximusotterQuote from: Clockd 0NeThese days you have to keep up with the times. I for one will look forward to having a legitimate OS that I can keep updated, supports all the latest hardware, 64-bit, applications, etc. and be safe in the knowledge I wont need to bother changing it until post 2010.
Oh, you mean an updated and patched XP? :lol:
Indeed, xp 64 people do not give much credit for, 9 months before I needed to re-instal due to just well probably due with some explorer.exe pains.
I have had one driver issue and that was only with my mobile phone software, still the memory card picks up and basically All i have sued it for, Not had any other driver issue, tell a lie, the left right click of the MS mouse no driver for, but these are small things you can more then likley have with vista ^^
xp 64 for a good load of months for me
Quote from: neXusQuote from: maximusotterQuote from: Clockd 0NeThese days you have to keep up with the times. I for one will look forward to having a legitimate OS that I can keep updated, supports all the latest hardware, 64-bit, applications, etc. and be safe in the knowledge I wont need to bother changing it until post 2010.
Oh, you mean an updated and patched XP? :lol:
Indeed, xp 64 people do not give much credit for, 9 months before I needed to re-instal due to just well probably due with some explorer.exe pains.
I have had one driver issue and that was only with my mobile phone software, still the memory card picks up and basically All i have sued it for, Not had any other driver issue, tell a lie, the left right click of the MS mouse no driver for, but these are small things you can more then likley have with vista ^^
xp 64 for a good load of months for me
Been drinking nexus? that was hard work to read
Give it a year or 2 service packs, then ill THINK about it. Until then ill definatly stick with XP. I only moved off 2k when it dropped out of the primary support phase.
Its not gonna be perfect out of the box, but no one expects it to be, knowing Microsoft. Ill probably wait a few months (dx10 card is first on the list) to see how it pans out, but it definitely looks well getting.
Hardware requirements isnt really an issue, the only minor sticking point is the dx9 requirement, but a Ã,£20 gfx cardll do that.
i am going to wait 2 years till after release, so its stable and all my 3d programs have made the switch. aint worth the license if i cant get money from it :)
One of the contracts we have in at work is a well known instant messaging, email and search offshoot of a well known monopolithic software company that produces operating systems, and we have 60 Vista and 60 XP desktops and 20 mac desktops on that contract
We have had boxed vista for several months - due to the contract being for the organisation that developed it, and it has given very few problems so far. Thats even running a famously ropey MS developed CRM utility that hogs all available RAM
The macs are a lot more buggy than the vista and XP machines - the mac support guy has a full time job running after the minority of agents.
Bar one driver issue im having for xp64 its all fine and dandy and support for 64bit and 32bit apps is good :)
(Btw im looking for a driver for my monitor a Hansol 920P)
Drivers for my shuttle where avaliable online in both 32 and 64 that made life very easy :)
Come on, XP is one of the most stable OSs Ive ever used. When was the last time it actually crashed? I cant remember. Obviously dont criticize if youre running pirate ridden trojan filled crap all over your computer. But thats not the fault of MS.
Going OT slightly, I agree 100% with Sam. In fact, Ive never really had any stability issues since Win 95, nothing that a little hardware / driver tweaking didnt fix anyway.
Must admit most problems Ive ever had with XP have been my own fault. I find it really stable and frankly am in no rush to leave it just yet.
Were any of you using xp from release though, I remember when xp was fairly unstable, especially when it came to hardware.
Also xp was pretty much 2k with a new skin and media functions. Most of the operating system bugs had been removed with 2k, which had already gotten a couple of service packs under its belt.
The fact that there are so many bugs in vista considering the amount of stuff they left out is slightly worrying, it isnt that much of an upgrade really, this just is xp with upgraded graphics and media.