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Title: Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Goblin on February 05, 2007, 18:16:23 PM
Is there anything Im genuinely likely to miss in Ultimate if I buy Home Premium. Or at least anything worth the Ã,£45 odd price difference in the OEM versions?
Title: Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Sam on February 05, 2007, 20:54:55 PM
Not from what Ive seen.
Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: funkychicken9000 on February 05, 2007, 21:13:34 PM
Remote desktop and some network tools are only availiable in business or ultimate.

But then media centre is only availiable in home premium or ultimate.  Swings and roundabouts really for business/home premium, but if youre not fussed about offline files & folders etc then go for home premium.
Title: Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Tongy on February 05, 2007, 21:16:00 PM
This "bitlocker" drive encryption could be handy if youre paranoid. Other than that, not really any benefits... my advice: Buy premium, acronis true image and dont download any dodgy pr0n :D

Cheers
Tongy
Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Cypher on February 05, 2007, 22:58:56 PM
Bit locker is the only real tool that I have noticed as usefull.  I have no use for it.

Quote from: BitTechYou can get software to use full-motion video as a desktop background. BitLocker encryption is included, as well as WinSAT, which claims to be a game performance tweaker

For those who dont know.  Bitlocker is...

Quote from: BitTechRather than security for your system, this is security for your data. BitLocker enables you to keep a hard disk volume on your machine permanently encrypted. You can drag and drop files on and off it, and open them from within the Locker, where they are decrypted on the fly. There are a couple of ways of doing this. To generate the key, you will need a Trusted Platform Module inside your machine, which generates a machine specific key which is used to encrypt the data. Should the drive be removed from the system, it will not unlock, since it will lack the key stored on the TPM.

Alternatively, you can encrypt the drive using a key generated by the software and stored on a USB key. The drive will not be readable without the USB key. This seems like a better idea, since it means that having a laptop stolen will not function. However, it does mean that, if you lose the USB key, you are stuffed.

BitLocker is a very, very welcome addition to Vista. Privacy is a growing concern amongst users, and laptop theft is a massive problem. A USB key as a decryption method is simple, yet somehow inescapably cool; James-Bond-Like. However, youll only get it on Business and Ultimate versions of Vista.
Title: Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Sam on February 05, 2007, 23:06:16 PM
Yes get Bitlocker. I have because Im very concerned someone has access to my highly sensitive forum postings.
Title: Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Goblin on February 05, 2007, 23:11:08 PM
Thats pretty much the way my thinking was going too :)

Happy days, Ã,£45 saved and since Im now self employed I can claim the VAT back too :)
Title: Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: knighty on February 05, 2007, 23:20:41 PM
tell us what its like once you get the hang of it ;)

I keep thinking I wont bother upgrading... but then I said the same think about XP when I was on Win98......
Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Ceathreamhnan on February 05, 2007, 23:48:48 PM
Having got fed up with Vista during the beta phase Im now becoming resigned to having to try again because Im going to have to deal with pcs over the next few years that have Vista installed... :?
Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Rivkid on February 06, 2007, 14:58:48 PM
 Ill get it once its patched to buggery and everythings compatible.


So basically when its finished.....
Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: bear on February 06, 2007, 15:17:45 PM
 :stupid:

As long as I do not need vista to do something I cannot do in XP why bother ?
Title: Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Goblin on February 06, 2007, 18:10:37 PM
I prefer the media center front end in Vista :)
Title: Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Goblin on February 07, 2007, 21:28:33 PM
OK, ordered for next day delivery, should be something to play with this weekend.
Title: Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Goblin on February 08, 2007, 15:57:32 PM
Its going well so far, I can see things and hear things and get on teh intarweb. INterface is lovely and fast, looks much nicer and more cohesive than the last beta I downloaded. Indexing is great and nicely integrated, I suspect hitting windows and typing what Im looking for will soon replace my normal well organised folder hierarchy.

Currently downloading FFDSHOW to get DivX etc working.

Will update with bad news when it comes :)
Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 08, 2007, 19:05:03 PM
Ive not used Vista yet, so the longer I can stay away and carry on using WinXP 64, I shall.....

Not got long though, got to build my house m8s PC this week coming and hes ordered Vista Home.  :o
Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 24, 2007, 17:37:13 PM
What a pleasant surprise.  Im really liking Vista, its default theme is way better than XPs.

Having used this Home Edition which is the most basic, I cant see any reason why 90% of people would need any of the other versions.
Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Serious on February 24, 2007, 19:09:15 PM
Most reports are saying its not worth the money just to upgrade to home basic from XP.
Title: Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: knighty on February 24, 2007, 20:19:39 PM
hmmm, might have to bung in my spair HD and install it on that.... see how it gors before I dump XP :o
Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Cypher on February 25, 2007, 13:49:06 PM
Quote from: SeriousMost reports are saying its not worth the money just to upgrade to home basic from XP.

No its not becuase there are no features that seperate the two.  There is little advantage of Home Basic over XP.

Quote from: WalrusbonzoHaving used this Home Edition which is the most basic, I cant see any reason why 90% of people would need any of the other versions.

Strange I would have said eventually 90% would need Home Premium over basic. Home Premium gives you Media Center support built in, as well as HDTV compatability, DVD authoring software and better hardware support.
Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Beaker on February 25, 2007, 15:03:06 PM
Ive spent today ripping Vista Business onto some laptops for a customer.  5 a week for 3 weeks is the plan.  Dont like it, they where actually quite nippy little things (HP NC6220s).  They arent anything like as responsive, though they do boot up faster.  

Ill wait until XP is no longer supported, THEN ill upgrade.

The benefits to the guy who wants these doing as minimal, but he wants new and shiny.  
Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Serious on February 25, 2007, 21:16:09 PM
Quote from: Cypher
Quote from: SeriousMost reports are saying its not worth the money just to upgrade to home basic from XP.

No its not becuase there are no features that seperate the two.  There is little advantage of Home Basic over XP.

You say no and then you dont contradict me at all. All I said was it wasnt worth it, I didnt give any reason. :/

Quote from: BeakerIve spent today ripping Vista Business onto some laptops for a customer. 5 a week for 3 weeks is the plan. Dont like it, they where actually quite nippy little things (HP NC6220s). They arent anything like as responsive, though they do boot up faster.

Ill wait until XP is no longer supported, THEN ill upgrade.

The benefits to the guy who wants these doing as minimal, but he wants new and shiny.

As I have posted elsewhere a 1.6 mobile Celeron with 512mb ram will just about get through basic office apps. With a rating of 1 on M$ scale its probably not going to be able to show a DVD without dropping frames.

Hi-res is going to need something else to run adequately on Vista
Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on February 25, 2007, 21:28:00 PM
Quote from: BeakerIve spent today ripping Vista Business onto some laptops for a customer.  5 a week for 3 weeks is the plan.  Dont like it, they where actually quite nippy little things (HP NC6220s).  They arent anything like as responsive, though they do boot up faster.  

Ill wait until XP is no longer supported, THEN ill upgrade.

The benefits to the guy who wants these doing as minimal, but he wants new and shiny.  

Havent looked at the tech behind it but Ive a feeling itll be based on XPs 30second rule.

If it aint up after 30 seconds, re-attempt on login. Sucks for GPOs as some will fail to load during boot, meaning the machine will be vulnerable at the login screen, and will take longer to login.
Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Cypher on February 26, 2007, 17:03:12 PM
Quote from: Serious
Quote from: Cypher
Quote from: SeriousMost reports are saying its not worth the money just to upgrade to home basic from XP.

No its not becuase there are no features that seperate the two.  There is little advantage of Home Basic over XP.

You say no and then you dont contradict me at all. All I said was it wasnt worth it, I didnt give any reason. :/

"No its not (worth upgrading from home basic)", as in Im nodding my head agreeing with your post, no its not, carry on sentance......

 :roll:
Title: Vista System Rating
Post by: Eggtastico on July 01, 2007, 10:47:40 AM
jkh
Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: neXus on July 01, 2007, 11:53:42 AM
I am not far off getting it, SLI needs to be sorted, and some other stuff, but the interface is cool, not sure which edition I would use though coming from an xp x64 pro
Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Cypher on July 01, 2007, 19:01:58 PM
Home Premium will be suitable 9/10 people.

Dont even bother with basic.

Title: Re:Vista Home Premium or Ultimate?
Post by: Beaker on July 01, 2007, 20:22:37 PM
i just tweaked up my Vista install ive got for testing, rebooted, and its corrupted the entire drive.  The partitions are readable, you can get a file list, but every single file opens as garbage.  I just booted back to the XP install, and it refuses to boot.  It just sits there on the sliding blue bar for about 10 minutes, then turns itself off.  Bloody thing was running beautifully until i put vista on it.  

 :rage: