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Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Mark on February 08, 2008, 22:54:48 PM
Had it installed for a while, just noticed on my Laptop I can now see the whole 4GB of RAM in vista 32 bit.

I still cant believe this laptop runs crysis, with settings set high

Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Jumpsy $$$ on February 08, 2008, 23:05:06 PM
Must be a good laptop, right?
Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: neXus on February 09, 2008, 03:44:22 AM
They sped up copying in vista finally, problem is it breaks a fair few things people are saying
Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Mark on February 09, 2008, 09:31:21 AM
everything still works for me, except one thing (my ecu software) has started working.
Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Cypher on February 09, 2008, 18:50:42 PM
The finished SP1 isnt out till march.

http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/02/04/announcing-the-rtm-of-windows-vista-sp1.aspx

Im presuming your using the Beta.
Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Mark on February 09, 2008, 18:55:05 PM
aye, the release candidate
Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Cypher on February 09, 2008, 19:05:12 PM
Where can you download that? Ive been meaning to test it.
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Sam on February 11, 2008, 15:19:22 PM
why would you want to test it? Vista works as it is, let other people break their computers with beta service packs and then install it once its ready
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: neXus on February 11, 2008, 20:25:39 PM
Quote from: Samwhy would you want to test it? Vista works as it is, let other people break their computers with beta service packs and then install it once its ready

So your fine with the slowest file copying known to man? kk  :rofl: to name but one problem
You will see xp life extended to 09 and windows 7 in 09 very much confirming vista as me2
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Sam on February 11, 2008, 20:28:46 PM
Quote from: neXus
Quote from: Samwhy would you want to test it? Vista works as it is, let other people break their computers with beta service packs and then install it once its ready

So your fine with the slowest file copying known to man? kk  :rofl: to name but one problem
You will see xp life extended to 09 and windows 7 in 09 very much confirming vista as me2

Seems fine for me. Not that I regularly move about 20000 gig files.
Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Mark on February 11, 2008, 21:20:14 PM
Quote from: CypherWhere can you download that? Ive been meaning to test it.

I searched for it on microsoft.com/downloads

It was a link under the what others are downloading section

I turned off remote diff comparison and it sped up file transfer.

Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Mark on February 11, 2008, 21:21:29 PM
In fact, I would go so far as to say Vista is working better than XP for me - but this laptop is 5,000,000 times faster than my old one.
Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: neXus on February 11, 2008, 21:28:48 PM
Quote from: MarkIn fact, I would go so far as to say Vista is working better than XP for me - but this laptop is 5,000,000 times faster than my old one.

You cant really judge in that regard then, if your a xp pro x64 person you cant beat it on speed, vista cant
The fact that leaked stuff about windows 7 shows most of the features in vista are gone for more xp like stuff with modern improvements and a complete re-do of the ui due to the fact they changed the team who are doing it and it being more streamlined with planned stuff scraped for me shows they also know vista is crap
The team that did the new office interface are on the new windows, While it takes a while to get used to it is actually good that interface
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: knighty on February 11, 2008, 22:35:18 PM
vista64ult is faster than xp64 for me :p
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: neXus on February 11, 2008, 22:44:43 PM
Quote from: knightyvista64ult is faster than xp64 for me :p

vista 64 is terrable, already known for less support then x64 and also actually slower then the 32bit vista. vista 32 is better to go for if your on 64 bit ^^
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: knighty on February 11, 2008, 23:08:05 PM
pah!

vista64 is defenatly way faster than xp64 for me...

plus, I had xp running as fast as possible.... in vista ive only done the most. pbv preformance stuff (windows classic desktop, cancle all the other fancy gfx. etc)

my gfx drivers arnt 100%... but theyre not far off :o
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Cypher on February 11, 2008, 23:45:33 PM
Quote from: knightyvista64ult is faster than xp64 for me :p

Agreed.  Vista 64 is not a patch on what was a nightmare with XP 64.

Absolutely no driver issues, it works a treat.  There is much more of a performance difference with Vista 64 then there is XP 64.

If you have a choice, go for Vista Home Premium 64bit, minimum.
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Beaker on February 12, 2008, 00:29:37 AM
Quote from: Cypher
Quote from: knightyvista64ult is faster than xp64 for me :p

Agreed.  Vista 64 is not a patch on what was a nightmare with XP 64.

Absolutely no driver issues, it works a treat.  There is much more of a performance difference with Vista 64 then there is XP 64.

If you have a choice, go for Vista Home Premium 64bit, minimum.
im running a mix of OSen on the desktop machines as the moment.  The XP64 absolutely eats the Vista Business x64 install for speed and reliability.  Regardless what people think, XP64 and Vista64 are the same platform, but with a different UI.  They are both based off Win2k3 SP1.  Ive had zero driver issues with XP64 as well, ve had more issues with Vista x64 BSODing and locking up because it doesnt like the RealTek HD Audio chip on my motherboard.  
Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 12, 2008, 09:25:12 AM
Im finding it concerning how much the mileage seems to vary for people here - people I consider technical enough to know its not user error causing grief with the OS as I naturally assume when most people talk about Windows being crappy and bug-ridden.

Ive yet to switch over to a 64 bit OS, and Ive been seriously considering Vista as the next OS platform in stead of XP64, but at the moment its too hard to decide with the problems people talk about and Windows 7 being just around the corner. Oh yeah Alan you said its possible to go back to classic mode in Vista and turn off all the Fisher Price menu system right?
Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Rivkid on February 12, 2008, 09:28:59 AM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeOh yeah Alan you said its possible to go back to classic mode in Vista and turn off all the Fisher Price menu system right?


IT IS??! For the love of christ tell me how!! :bounce:
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: knighty on February 12, 2008, 11:10:38 AM
right click on the desktop / personalise / theam / classic in the drop down menu ;)

for classic start menu, right click on the task bar / properties / start menu tab / classic button ;)

Id also do, right click my computer / properties / preformance settings (bottom right corner) / adjust visual settings / click the best preformance button ;)

to turn off the daft security messages (UAC) control panel, (switch it to classive view, its much better) then in user accounts / turn user account control on or off / then turn it off !

and of course, start/run/msconfig  disable all the stuff in the startup tab, go into the services tab / hide all microsoft services / then disable whats left :-)

I did a few other things too, cant remember right now tho... Ill post back if i remember any of them :-)

maybe vista is faster than xp for me because i turned off all the fancy fista stuff ?
Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Beaker on February 12, 2008, 17:33:47 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeIm finding it concerning how much the mileage seems to vary for people here - people I consider technical enough to know its not user error causing grief with the OS as I naturally assume when most people talk about Windows being crappy and bug-ridden.

Ive yet to switch over to a 64 bit OS, and Ive been seriously considering Vista as the next OS platform in stead of XP64, but at the moment its too hard to decide with the problems people talk about and Windows 7 being just around the corner. Oh yeah Alan you said its possible to go back to classic mode in Vista and turn off all the Fisher Price menu system right?
stick with XP64, youll keep recieving updates for it until 2k3 drops out of the support loop. Why put Vista on when its just a sidegrade not an upgrade?  If XP64 does everything you need then there is little point in moving to Vista.  

As of about 30 minutes ago all of my machines are running XP or XP64 instead of Vista.  Last night was the final straw when non of the Unreal games would run on my lappy.  All I wanted to do was connect and play the server for a bit to see if it crashed or not.  Vista didnt let me move at any speed past "Creep" in any direction, but everything else worked perfectly!
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Leon on February 12, 2008, 17:49:44 PM
My upcoming format will be putting XP64 back on my machine instead of Vista 32
Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: neXus on February 12, 2008, 20:08:30 PM
Quote from: Beaker
Quote from: Clockd 0NeIm finding it concerning how much the mileage seems to vary for people here - people I consider technical enough to know its not user error causing grief with the OS as I naturally assume when most people talk about Windows being crappy and bug-ridden.

Ive yet to switch over to a 64 bit OS, and Ive been seriously considering Vista as the next OS platform in stead of XP64, but at the moment its too hard to decide with the problems people talk about and Windows 7 being just around the corner. Oh yeah Alan you said its possible to go back to classic mode in Vista and turn off all the Fisher Price menu system right?
stick with XP64, youll keep recieving updates for it until 2k3 drops out of the support loop. Why put Vista on when its just a sidegrade not an upgrade?  If XP64 does everything you need then there is little point in moving to Vista.  

As of about 30 minutes ago all of my machines are running XP or XP64 instead of Vista.  Last night was the final straw when non of the Unreal games would run on my lappy.  All I wanted to do was connect and play the server for a bit to see if it crashed or not.  Vista didnt let me move at any speed past "Creep" in any direction, but everything else worked perfectly!

Next couple of months time you will hear an announcement that all versions of xp will get support till 09 :)
Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Serious on February 12, 2008, 23:08:21 PM
Quote from: Beaker
Quote from: Clockd 0NeIm finding it concerning how much the mileage seems to vary for people here - people I consider technical enough to know its not user error causing grief with the OS as I naturally assume when most people talk about Windows being crappy and bug-ridden.

Ive yet to switch over to a 64 bit OS, and Ive been seriously considering Vista as the next OS platform in stead of XP64, but at the moment its too hard to decide with the problems people talk about and Windows 7 being just around the corner. Oh yeah Alan you said its possible to go back to classic mode in Vista and turn off all the Fisher Price menu system right?
stick with XP64, youll keep recieving updates for it until 2k3 drops out of the support loop. Why put Vista on when its just a sidegrade not an upgrade?  If XP64 does everything you need then there is little point in moving to Vista.  

As of about 30 minutes ago all of my machines are running XP or XP64 instead of Vista.  Last night was the final straw when non of the Unreal games would run on my lappy.  All I wanted to do was connect and play the server for a bit to see if it crashed or not.  Vista didnt let me move at any speed past "Creep" in any direction, but everything else worked perfectly!

Personally save money, stick with XP until the next one comes out. Vista still has problems.
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: bear on February 12, 2008, 23:25:21 PM
I have hear bad things about XP SP3, issues with hardware on some machines it is just fine other not. Have anyone else heard this ?
Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Serious on February 12, 2008, 23:28:58 PM
Seems it depends on components. More bug issues for Vista SP1

http://www.computershopper.co.uk/news/162381/driver-bugs-mar-launch-of-vista-service-pack-1.html
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: neXus on February 13, 2008, 01:46:58 AM
Quote from: bearI have hear bad things about XP SP3, issues with hardware on some machines it is just fine other not. Have anyone else heard this ?

I already posted the perfomance gains from it and the good things about it and links in another thread, Bad rumour that sounds like, Think you got it the other way around, it is the vista sp1 with all the issues like serious linked, more and more cropping up on web every day now and as with most ms things they wont all be fixed when it is a full release and be months before they are
Title: Re:Vista Service pack 1
Post by: neXus on February 13, 2008, 03:33:43 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HELrxLdP85c&feature=related
To annoy sam but he talks about vista vs xp but I love how he gets a phone call and just leaves it in
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Mark on February 13, 2008, 09:27:56 AM
Quote from: neXus
Quote from: bearI have hear bad things about XP SP3, issues with hardware on some machines it is just fine other not. Have anyone else heard this ?

I already posted the perfomance gains from it and the good things about it and links in another thread, Bad rumour that sounds like, Think you got it the other way around, it is the vista sp1 with all the issues like serious linked, more and more cropping up on web every day now and as with most ms things they wont all be fixed when it is a full release and be months before they are

Wouldnt be anything like all the issues XP SP1 had then
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: neXus on February 13, 2008, 09:54:30 AM
Quote from: Mark
Quote from: neXus
Quote from: bearI have hear bad things about XP SP3, issues with hardware on some machines it is just fine other not. Have anyone else heard this ?

I already posted the perfomance gains from it and the good things about it and links in another thread, Bad rumour that sounds like, Think you got it the other way around, it is the vista sp1 with all the issues like serious linked, more and more cropping up on web every day now and as with most ms things they wont all be fixed when it is a full release and be months before they are

Wouldnt be anything like all the issues XP SP1 had then

Well when you got all the issues already on Vista bigger then xp ever was then its a bigger issue hence all the who har :)
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: knighty on February 13, 2008, 10:22:44 AM
people keep going on about all these "issues"....

but appart from the fact that my gfx drivers arnt 100% (tho its hard to tell) everything else works perfect for me, and worket straight out of the box too !
Title: Vista Service pack 1
Post by: Mark on February 13, 2008, 11:05:47 AM
Quote from: neXus
Quote from: Mark
Quote from: neXus
Quote from: bearI have hear bad things about XP SP3, issues with hardware on some machines it is just fine other not. Have anyone else heard this ?

I already posted the perfomance gains from it and the good things about it and links in another thread, Bad rumour that sounds like, Think you got it the other way around, it is the vista sp1 with all the issues like serious linked, more and more cropping up on web every day now and as with most ms things they wont all be fixed when it is a full release and be months before they are

Wouldnt be anything like all the issues XP SP1 had then

Well when you got all the issues already on Vista bigger then xp ever was then its a bigger issue hence all the who har :)

I dont think the issues are bigger. Nowhere near.

We rolled out 905 XP desktops in the company I was working at back when it first came out as one of the contracts they had was for MSN - and to secure that deal we needed to use the latest and greatest, and we had major, major problems getting our apps to work - when the same guys replaced 400 of those with Vista machines quite recently they had one problem - and that was to do with IE7.

There are more users now than there ever were, thats another thing to take into consideration.