Im thinking I might as well watercool my new nas box.... Ive got most of the stuff already, all Ill need to buy are the HD coolers...
but its going to be a bit tight in my current case... and Id like to add some more/new HDs to it some time...
so any recommendations on a nice big case with an insane amount of HD bays ?
Coolermaster stacker.
Its massive, there are 2 versions now, personally i prefer the original.
iirc it has 11 drive bays, and space for an extra PSU (or watercooling gubbins).
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=123852&source=hx1
hmmm, my little brother has that case... its quite nice :)
thinking about it... Id really like one where the HDs go in at 90 to the normal way... so the back of the drive is faceing you when you open the side...
I saw one like that with about 12HD bays all along the bottom of the case.... just cant find it again :(
rackmount nas case me thinks eith removable ide caddies? :lol:
sure ebuyer listed some rack mount cases
well the only one I could find was Ã,£300 :o
(16 drive bays!)
Ill have another look see when I have some more time tho :)
Lian Li PC-V2000?
Modular compartment design, 12x hard drive bay (with rails), space above the PSU + 7 5.25" bays (for water cooling etc).
I use the above with a dual opteron, 12 drives and water cooling :)
wow, thats a hell of a case :o
found it for Ã,£160 delivered :o
starting to think I might just scrap the idea of the nas, and build myself a new machine with plenty of storage in it :o
Sounds like a plan :)
My new rig is going to have about a Terabyte of sotrage in it... Doubt I will fill that for a long time :)
Kunal, you got any photies of that ?
Im thinking I havnt done any good building/modding in a long while, and Im getting bored of my shuttle now.
Im a buy everything all at once kind of guy, so a photo of the case with stuff inside it already would be a big help :) (cant find any good ones bigger than a postage stamp!)
at the mo, Im thinking that case, new M/B, stick with my 4400X2, already got 2 gig of decent ram, maybe 6 watercooled hard drives, and a load of rads so I can have it totaly silent :)
watercooling the CPU, n/b and hard drives, one of those tube rads sticking out the back of it... might do something funky with the position of the PSU to make a bit more room there fot the ump etc..
maybe a USB hub and external CD drive so I can stick the computer under the desk at the back and still have easy access..... hmmmmm :)
knighty - how muchs torage do you have in total? maybe more cost effective and convenient to replace your current drives with bigger ones?
Ill dig some pictures out, although the ones Ive got dont have the watercooling installed.
Gimme a few hours.
Quote from: Maldonadoknighty - how muchs torage do you have in total? maybe more cost effective and convenient to replace your current drives with bigger ones?
I dont need that much storage, of all my storage only about 150 gig of stuff is mine (at most)
and I don;t really give a **** about 90% of it anyway ;)
the rest is people using my spare space for there stuff over the network..
the drives in the NAS drive at the mo are just old left over ones I had in my cupbord
going to have a few drives in my main rid so I can raid 0+1 them :)
(4x80 gig drives would easily do for me)
Quote from: KunalIll dig some pictures out, although the ones Ive got dont have the watercooling installed.
Gimme a few hours.
cool :)
on a side note... I picked out pretty much everything I wanted.... but I cant remember if I ordered it all the other night when I was pissed or not... going to give it a few days then check my CC bill online to see :)
Quote from: knightyon a side note... I picked out pretty much everything I wanted.... but I cant remember if I ordered it all the other night when I was pissed or not... going to give it a few days then check my CC bill online to see :)
Have you checked the confirmation emails?
dont have any... just giving it a few days anyway
I dont think I did tbh, i remember looking tho, so thought i better wait just incase... im a tard, but im not that daft when im drunk:O
Its just if you buy from somewhere like tekheads over the web they always send you one.
nothing yet, so it looks like its safe to order :)
was pretty sure I didn;t order tbh, just thought I better make sure ;)
theres no hurry :)
ordered most of the bits then....
Abit KN9-SLi NF570 SLI, Socket AM2, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX x1
Lian-Li PC-V2000B PLUS Black Aluminium Ful Tower No PSU x1
Tagan 580W TG580-U15 ATX2.01 Easycon SLi Compliant Modular Silent PSU x1
80 GB Seagate Barracuda SATA 7200rpm 8MB cache HDD with NCQ (Manufacturers 5yr Warranty) x6
and...
CoolerMaster AquaTurtle HDD Water Block x6
AlphaCool Motherboard Heattrap RegCooler - Abit AN8/Fatal1ty x1
AlphaCool NexXxos XP Pro AMD CPU Cooler x1
AlphaCool NexXxoS NBX-A Motherboard Chipset Heatsink x1
AlphaCool Cape Coolplex 50 external x1
will get the rads/fans and pump later on when I get the case, Ive always used 240v pumps, but Im cinsidering a 12v one at the mo :o
Sorry for the delay...
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Its an old pic, with only 8 drives. With the watercooling installed, theres a dual 120 radiator where the two 120mm fans are at the front of the case. Theres enough space for a dual 80mm rad as well above the PSU.
Some people even mod the roof of the case and mount rads there.
Its an excellent case, although its far from perfect. A sliding motherboard tray wouldve been very helpful and a single 120mm fan for the 12 drives is abit iffy, as the back rack tends to get quite warm (50+degC drives, while front row 40ish.)
:o
good job you posted that, I just realised Ill need some longer sata cables !
thanks, picture helps a lot :)
Why not buy a proper server?
DL380s are getting cheap, with ILO and plenty of redundancy.
lol knighty, ive done that so many times!
bxg, I was looking at proper servers when I was thinking about just a nas drive... but now Im just re-building my own computer with a new case/watercooling etc..
plus.... the server cases I saw where mega bucks ! (tho didn;t look second hand i guess, which would have been fine for a nas drive)
anyway...
bits just started arriving... 6xHDs, m/b, and the case..... wow what a case !
even the wheels on it rock my world !
loads of fans too, places well too, one sucking fresh air through the case side and onto the CPU area, another at the back with a duct to blow over your gfx cards !
nice fans too.... hopeing to use them on my rads :)
going to stick 2 x 3 120mil fan rads in the top of the case blowing out the top with the fans sandwiched between them..... hopefully Ill only need the min. of airflow :) ..... tho I have jusr realised that there going to be at one side instead of the top.... to won;t look as good from above, but chould be ok :)
just thinking eariler too.... might need another pump ! maybe a small one for the HDs and a bigger one for the rest... will see what the pump ive ordered is like :)
On a couple of my previous PCs I have modded the case for a top fan, works great and even better if you can direct the output through a window or hole in the wall... ;)
got a plan !
instead of putting the cd drive at the top of the case, Ill move it down 3 or 4 slots, then slide the rad right forward and the front end can sit inside where the cd drive should be ! nice and central + its out of the way !
only problem is.... sutting the 3 x 120mil holes, and doint a nice job of it when the top of the case cant be removed :o
well my fans all just fell appart... fixed in the 2 rads with a bit of fiderling... only to find I cant fir the motherbord in !
its fine with one rad and the fans... the plan behind the 2 was, with the fans in the middle theyd be good and quiet
will have to have a re-think :(
maybe one rad at the top and one at the bottom... hmmmm
woot !
all up and running at long last
I must be loseing my touch... I used to be able to knock a system up using any old crap i found lying around, bodje it, weald it closed etc.. and it would work right off the bad... this one took bloody ages :(
(and my little brother sold me a nackered gfx card!)
Quote from: knighty(and my little brother sold me a nackered gfx card!)
You need to borrow a nice Japanese raw fish knife... :twisted:
THE NEW KOOLANCE HARD DRIVE WATERBLOCKS SUCK ASS !
mine keep getting air locked :(
theres no air going in, and non comming out
evil little things to blooed, good job I had auto shutdown set for overheat !
considering binning them tbh (3 of them at Ã,£40 each!) and just buying some different ones !
fusking HD waterblocks !!!
air locked again, couldent blow or suck it out... drained the system then connected it up to the hose pipe (like ive doen hundreds of times to fluck a system out)
left the hose running slow.... kept an eye on it.... got air locked.... and blew the front off my pump.
dont know if i can return them used, without the packagine, but Im going to bloody well try !
They shouldnt get air locked at all :shock:
Pics?
the blocks are basically a waterfilled bag inside a metal frame... inside the bad is some sort of flexible honeycomb structure to push the bag out against the bottom of the hard drive....
I think thats whats causing the problems :(
irdered 2 x coper block hard driver coolers... i;m going to stack the drives one ontop of another (all six) and fix the coolers to the sides of the stacks :)
remember the water should go into the stack of drives at the bottom and come out at the top. If the blocks are fed and collected from underneath then you will need to fill them and remove air before you fit them to the case. If they enter from the side, as they should, then there should be no problem.
Got a link to some details/pics?
http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=605052
those are the blocks
already tried filling them before I connected it up, theres 6 hard drives stacked up ontop of each other, with one of those blocks between each pair, filling from the bottom block and working up...
theres all connected up right... I haven took the hard drives off to make sure there was no air in them.... but later on they still air locked :(
(guessing there were a few small bubbles in the rest of the system still)
tbh, Im too pissed off at them now !
ollllld thread, and ill add some pics later.....
got some new HD waterblocks... fixed so 2 of them cook 6 drives :D
temp after 30min of full load is 26C :D
(rad has 3x120mil fans in 5v... silent goodness!)
Why didnt you ask me about HDD waterblocks !!
Id already bought them so it was too late :(
I used the old koolace blocks years ago and they were perfect for what I wanted, nice and simple and easy to use.... I just assumed the new ones would be the same :(
I need to add some photos to explain it.... but I stacked the 6 HDs up, and then fixed a HD waterblock to each side :)
big of an old thread... but...
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