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Title: Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Eagle on July 13, 2006, 21:30:20 PM
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The high-end range is just gash.  All hiss and crackle.

Grrrrrr.  :evil:
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Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 13, 2006, 21:40:34 PM
It is in essence a wank card. Sorry to tell you, they arnt much better than on board at the bottom end. The only range with remotely decent circuitry is the Platinum X-Fi/Ultimate X-Fi.
Title: Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: DeltaZero on July 13, 2006, 21:47:36 PM
The old SB Live!s ftw tbh.


And is wank now an adjective too?
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 13, 2006, 21:49:18 PM
It has been decreed, coined and issued as a bill.

If you game, might as well stick with a reasonablly cheap variant of these cards, maybe pick up an X-Fi if its worth it to you. If its just for music there are better cards to be had.
Title: Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: maximusotter on July 13, 2006, 21:57:11 PM
Quote from: DeltaZeroThe old SB Live!s ftw tbh.


And is wank now an adjective too?

Ever since Elmer Fudd was created. :lol:
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Eagle on July 13, 2006, 22:49:37 PM
Lol - thought as much.  Wank indeed... :(
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on July 13, 2006, 22:57:50 PM
hissy and crackles isnt the card. Its crosstalk noise and crap.

Strangely enough my Audigy 2 has it when using the drivers supplied on the CD. Doing an autoupdate removed all sound of cross talk. I now have crystal clear sound coming out :)

Try that.
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 13, 2006, 23:22:07 PM
It might remove some of the hiss, but it wont clear up the awful high-end, these cards all share the same generic batch components.
Title: Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Deaths Head on July 14, 2006, 01:11:13 AM
I had this.  Do a clean reinstall of the drivers.  Sounds stupid but it worked for me!

Also, you dont mention what sound.  All sound? Or just from a music player?  Make sure you dont have any plugins which could be adding noise to the signal.  I also had that :)
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 14, 2006, 08:53:38 AM
Dont have the volume at absolute max either, it causes clipping. Let us know if reinstalling th drivers works, Id like to know if it was the drivers or wank card issue. :)
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Sweenster on July 14, 2006, 09:33:27 AM
My audigy 2 zs if fine sound clarity wise

only problem i have is the crap drivers that cause a bluescreen every 1 in 1000 times i use the volume control on the external section of the card

would give anything to solve that, without a set of drivers that doesnt cause twice as many problems

creative, reasonably good hardware, not bad software..... forking awful drivers
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: funkychicken9000 on July 14, 2006, 12:01:53 PM
Quote from: SweensterMy audigy 2 zs if fine sound clarity wise

only problem i have is the crap drivers that cause a bluescreen every 1 in 1000 times i use the volume control on the external section of the card

would give anything to solve that, without a set of drivers that doesnt cause twice as many problems

creative, reasonably good hardware, not bad software..... forking awful drivers

I heard theres some 3rd party drivers that a lot of studio dudes use for creative cards.  Lets you do some really complex stuff, and a hell of a lot more stable than the POS creative ones.
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: DeltaZero on July 14, 2006, 12:29:14 PM
Quote from: funkychicken9000I heard theres some 3rd party drivers that a lot of studio dudes use for creative cards.  Lets you do some really complex stuff, and a hell of a lot more stable than the POS creative ones.

Would be very interested in finding out about them!
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Beaker on July 14, 2006, 12:31:27 PM
Quote from: DeltaZero
Quote from: funkychicken9000I heard theres some 3rd party drivers that a lot of studio dudes use for creative cards.  Lets you do some really complex stuff, and a hell of a lot more stable than the POS creative ones.

Would be very interested in finding out about them!

EMU possibly?  some of their cards are just Creative cards, but the software is normally better.  EMU are owned by Creative IIRC
Title: Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: DeltaZero on July 14, 2006, 12:34:44 PM
My creative drivers report the card as a emu10kx Audio [A000] in volume control.
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 14, 2006, 12:41:49 PM
E-MU are the professional sector of Creative, the cards are some of the best on the market, analogue circuitry wise. So good in fact that I will be buying one soon.
Title: Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Deaths Head on July 14, 2006, 13:29:46 PM
http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/index.php?skip=1
Title: Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Eagle on July 14, 2006, 13:35:28 PM
Quote from: Deaths Headhttp://kxproject.lugosoft.com/index.php?skip=1
Is that drivers or just software?

:)
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 14, 2006, 13:46:57 PM
Shouldnt matter actually, it appears to have an ASIO interface, which is even better :)
Title: Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: funkychicken9000 on July 14, 2006, 15:33:49 PM
Quote from: Deaths Headhttp://kxproject.lugosoft.com/index.php?skip=1

Thats the puppy.  Theyre dead good, you can sort of create hardware links in the software, to send your input signals through different DSP blocks and out different outputs on the back of yer comp :D
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 14, 2006, 17:31:27 PM
Thats where ASIO comes in, funky C ;):

http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci213488,00.html

If you want to bypass the ugly 48khz resampling of the Windows environment ASIO is the way to go: http://www.asio4all.com/
Title: Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Serious on July 14, 2006, 21:39:41 PM
Quote from: EagleWhy does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
 

Becaude it takes after the German soccer team? :mutley:
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Pete on July 14, 2006, 21:46:22 PM
I wish I got an E-mu instead of this audigy piece of poo. :(
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: funkychicken9000 on July 14, 2006, 22:04:49 PM
Hmmsk, reccomending all these audiophile-pleasing cards is great, but last time I looked into them I couldnt find anything that would do proper 5.1 out of the box that could touch an audigy 2.  Is this still the case (albeit replacing audigy with Xfi)?  Do any of these fancy m-audio or emu cards do proper 5.1 yet?
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 15, 2006, 00:53:22 AM
Not really as they are semi-pro and therefore designed for high quality analogue audio and MIDI, although I can still name you some cards that will do the 5.1 job as well MUCH better than an audigy 2.

X-Fi Platimum/Elite (or the XtremeMusic - Plat has amped headphone out and elite has better DACs)
M-Audio Revolution 5.1/7.1 (5.1 has pretty good analogue+integrated headphone ampage, 7.1 is missing that)

Out of the semi pro cards that dont offer 5.1 the three names always talked about are the ESI Juli@, E-MU 1212M and the E-MU 0404. Im getting a 1212M*, if I want 5.1 Ill use the DVD/SACD player.

Depends really though. Are you after hardware AC3 decoding or a simple digital passthrough? Theres some blinding cards with optical/coax out at half the cost of an X-Fi Platinum or Elite.


* Pretty much a certainty, now that Greg has crafted me the twin 1/4" mono jack to stereo 3.5mm interconnect I need.
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Mark on July 15, 2006, 03:18:24 AM
any htpc must have a HDA soundcard tbpfh
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Eagle on July 15, 2006, 04:17:33 AM
 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
 :whoops:  :whoops:  :whoops:

Looks like I had two equalizers on the go at once: Creatives one and the one in Winamp... no wonder things were sounding bad!  :whoops:

Still not perfect but its handling teh high-end much better now...

...ahem.  Scuttles off to bed...
Title: Re:Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 15, 2006, 09:08:15 AM
Turn off all the SRS trueSorround CMS3D virtual positronic wow! crap and other DSPs and it will sound better too.
Title: Why does my Audigy 4 sound like s***?
Post by: redneck on July 16, 2006, 00:20:09 AM
seeing as all graphic equalizers are just filters which dirty the sound and ruins the production of every record.