Looks a bit naff.
How much is that New Controller going to cost?!?!?
http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/06/07/introducing-nintendos-wii-u/
It's a big etch-a-sketch, I think it's gonna get steamrollered by the next MS/Sony offerings tbh.
I just can't see how it's going to be comfortable!
Look like a step backwards to me, moving to a more restrictive and less precise control rather than less restrictive and more precise one.
Cant see any appeal of this, it also removes the party, fun console aspect. Bit of a fail for me. Cant imagine it competing on price either with that control.
It is a DS on a console.
No actual games or real developers on board for it. I bet they are all like us - Erm, hmm, is it worth developing on?
I always though Sega with the LCD for some useful info was a good idea but this is a bit big?
A small LCD that did a few things I would be in for but, not sure.
I think it has clever ideas and how your console is basically streaming the game to your controller without the need for TV etc but I am not sure.
Quote from: neXus on June 07, 2011, 22:51:09 PM
It is a DS on a console.
No actual games or real developers on board for it. I bet they are all like us - Erm, hmm, is it worth developing on?
Errrm, so these aren't games?:
QuoteGames announced: Smash Brothers, Battlefield 3, Batman: Arkham City, Assassin's Creed, Ghost Recon Online, Darksiders II, Dirt, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Metro: Last Light, Tekken, Ninja Gaiden 3, FIFA 12, Madden 12, Driver, Lego City Stories...
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/889/ean3v.jpg)
You can use
any controller you want, you don't have to use the tablet.
Quote from: skidzilla on June 08, 2011, 04:59:09 AM
Quote from: neXus on June 07, 2011, 22:51:09 PM
It is a DS on a console.
No actual games or real developers on board for it. I bet they are all like us - Erm, hmm, is it worth developing on?
Errrm, so these aren't games?:
No, even they were pretty much saying a lot are concepts etc and while some games May be in development there was not much that was concrete.
Quote from: skidzilla on June 08, 2011, 04:59:09 AM
QuoteGames announced: Smash Brothers, Battlefield 3, Batman: Arkham City, Assassin's Creed, Ghost Recon Online, Darksiders II, Dirt, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Metro: Last Light, Tekken, Ninja Gaiden 3, FIFA 12, Madden 12, Driver, Lego City Stories...
Battlefied 3 is a prime example. Listen to what he said.
"Maybe a battlefield game" and not necessarily 3, it will be a game of some sort. The others are planned but again a lot of those during the conference were being mentioned as planned or being looked at it.
Watching the Giantbomb stream today they covered exactly that - Not many concrete games announced yet. It was very much a tech presentation to get developers on board.
Quote from: skidzilla on June 08, 2011, 04:59:09 AM
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You can use any controller you want, you don't have to use the tablet.
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I know.
By years out more concrete stuff will come out but it is very early days for the console and nothing concrete and like Giantbomb team - Very cool concepts but the practicality of the thing could crash and burn.
The other aspect is the graphics and processing power.
It is a lot better but for a 2012 release and when MS will likely show off their next console which will be pretty heafty leap on that front and the PS3 already only just being tapped into its full potential... It is being compared to current consoles in terms of graphics, that is not a good thing.
I think by mid 2010 this console will already looked dated.
No Blu ray by the sounds of it (well no news saying yes yet) is a big mistake as well.
Nintendo online is not going forward enough, media support is light as well. Still early days and things can change but as a lot of people already are saying..
Could well be a step backwards for Nintendo and with the PSVita being priced competitively against the 3DS and Wii Says falling rapidly and game sales having always been average at best...
Nintendo are in for a very ropey couple of years in my view.
What I will admit will be cool (assuming they do it) that stupid controller screen being used as a motion tracker in Aliens :bow: :thumbup:
Quote from: matt5cott on June 08, 2011, 08:38:30 AM
What I will admit will be cool (assuming they do it) that stupid controller screen being used as a motion tracker in Aliens :bow: :thumbup:
That is what it is for me. On Paper this concept is flipping awesome.
BUT
Playing Aliens moving around looking for people or having to look down on that controller looking at your alien Radar or for another game putting the controller on the floor - Yep, in theory that sounds cool, BUT!
In reality - not really.
People will go swing at golf and accidentally stand on the controller, your going to get annoyed looking up and down from screens or get disoriented doing screen on screen...
In terms of developing games I can see it being really annoying.
You make your game and you use the screen and motion controls. But someone wants to then go play just on the console screen so you will need to have normal controls and non two screen options so you cover that OR you just say "Nah you cant, put your Tv back on" OR you only make games for the controller.
You got to consider the remote's and which ones people use as well.
Again what you can do with this new console in theory is all pretty awesome but to develop a game that is not going to piss people off depending on what they try to do with it is going to be really troublesome.
Apparently the CPU is based on the "Watson" supercomputer.
Quote from: soopahfly on June 08, 2011, 09:08:41 AM
Apparently the CPU is based on the "Watson" supercomputer.
True but not as magical as it sounds.
Basically what they have learnt from building that they are applying to their chips.
Microsoft have their tri core chip in their Xbox and considering it's age at the time that was some Chip considering if you look at say Tomb Raider on it today running with the GPU on the same dye too.
Their next console is likely to be another IBM Chip so would also likely be based on "Watson" Tech and will have more grunt then the wii u.
Nintendo shares plummet after Wii U reveal (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2011/06/08/nintendo-shares-plummet-after-wii-u/1)
Nintendo's E3 2011 announcements have failed to wow investors and analysts, causing a drop in share prices that have pushed Nintendo to a five year low.
Quote from: Dooms on June 08, 2011, 12:22:07 PM
Nintendo shares plummet after Wii U reveal (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2011/06/08/nintendo-shares-plummet-after-wii-u/1)
Nintendo's E3 2011 announcements have failed to wow investors and analysts, causing a drop in share prices that have pushed Nintendo to a five year low.
Wii Sales are falling a lot (as you showed in another thread) and this looks like confusion from Nintendo and with the complaints of no HD or decent graphics with the Wii this all just feels like a "Quick fix" which seems to be on the cards for a flop. Nintendo could pull through but while I never owned a Wii I respected what it did and it made Nintendo Money.
This U looks to be another Gamecube, Nice but something not quite full thought through.
http://www.reghardware.com/2011/06/08/nintendo_wii_u_event_footage_from_xbox_ps3/
using dodgy footage too :lol:
"All that glistens is not necessarily Nintendo, it seems, after news has broken that gameplay footage shown during its Wii U announcement was actually from Xbox 360 and PS3 games, rather than clips rendered by the new hardware."
Just to make things worse:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/08/nintendo-admits-its-wii-u-highlight-reel-was-spiced-up-with-ps3/
Some of their Game Footage was of other console versions of announced games, lol.
Quote from: neXus on June 08, 2011, 08:07:36 AM
I think by mid 2010 this console will already looked dated.
It's a time machine! :D
I remember the reaction the Wii controller got on here years ago tbh, to be fair Nintendo will have 100's of people working on the logistics and over the years they have got most things right on that front IMO.
But saying that I do think we are going to see a big upturn in the popularity of PC gaming over the next few years, the social and online capabilities which have proved to be really popular with this generation of consoles I really don't see how they can go much further under the confines of a console and controller with it, for about the same money as a top end console you can get a really decent gaming PC, unlike 10 years ago it won't be out of date and slow 3 weeks of first firing it up! PC has much better social integration: MSN, Vent, Skype and online forums to help build communities. People do enjoy playing together which ever medium that offers the best is going to win and a keyboard and mouse can't be beat on that front tbh.
I started playing WoW again recently and I couldn't believe the integration of general PC use that has taken part since I was last played seriously in a guild a few years ago, the guild I'm in now has its own FB page, youtube channel as well as Vent and forum, years ago the vent and forum would cost somebody a decent amount of money to run, now it s next to free.
Quote from: Shaun on June 09, 2011, 05:09:00 AM
I remember the reaction the Wii controller got on here years ago tbh, to be fair Nintendo will have 100's of people working on the logistics and over the years they have got most things right on that front IMO.
Erm.. I recall the general reaction of "OMG" and "WOW" as a whole and Nintendo Shares going up and people pondering how well it will all work but the positive media hype about it leading to launch causing lots of the average joe non gamers and light gamers going to by it on mass and stocks being very short for a good amount of time.
This so far has had the exact opposite.
Quote from: Shaun on June 09, 2011, 05:09:00 AM
But saying that I do think we are going to see a big upturn in the popularity of PC gaming over the next few years, the social and online capabilities which have proved to be really popular with this generation of consoles I really don't see how they can go much further under the confines of a console and controller with it, for about the same money as a top end console you can get a really decent gaming PC, unlike 10 years ago it won't be out of date and slow 3 weeks of first firing it up! PC has much better social integration: MSN, Vent, Skype and online forums to help build communities. People do enjoy playing together which ever medium that offers the best is going to win and a keyboard and mouse can't be beat on that front tbh.
I started playing WoW again recently and I couldn't believe the integration of general PC use that has taken part since I was last played seriously in a guild a few years ago, the guild I'm in now has its own FB page, youtube channel as well as Vent and forum, years ago the vent and forum would cost somebody a decent amount of money to run, now it s next to free.
Heck yes, one thing that has come out recently is that PC gaming is starting to come back again.
Witcher 2 is apparently very good.
(http://s2.b3ta.com/host/creative/67887/1307540839/WiiUcdc.gif)
Personally I'm not a fan of PC gaming anymore, but let me expand on that...
.. I have PS3 and XBox, I also have a laptop and an iPad, now the issue I have with PC gaming is location, each of these devices are in front of me most of the time that I am sat at home, XBox and PS3 connected to the TV and Laptop and iPad on my lap (depending on what I'm doing).
The thing that puts me off PC gaming is that I don't like sitting in a corner or in the other room on a computer, and is a little less social if I'm with my mates, I have considered setting up my cedia centre as a gaming PC, but I expect it would be a bit rubbish due to mouse and keyboard placement.
Also in terms of price, I don't think you could setup a good gaming rig for the cost of a console, maybe at launch price, but current prices I think not? Also over the many years I have had the consoles I hevent had to re-format, re-install or upgrade them.
The graphics on a PC would be much better, but I don't think the actual gameplay or enjoyment of the game is much different.
The other thing is take up of laptops, I haven't had a proper PC at a desk for a lot of years, and loads of people are the same, now laptops are cheap a lot of households have got rid of their PC, obviously hard core gamers will still have their rigs and a load of other demographics, but there is a definite shift.
However there are a couple of things that still attract me -
- The mouse and keyboard (of course!) it is much better and it's already been proved they are much better than a controller back in the dreamcast cross platform days
- Mods: Quake 1/2/3 multiplayer was quite good fun, but not as fun as the various mods that you could use on top!
- Price - Games are a lot less money, and if you are naughty then free!
I think for me personally times have changed, I don't have as much time as I'd like to play games, I don't have a desk in my house anymore, and I get pretty much everything I want on the console, I think if I went back now I'd get thrashed on a keyboard and mouse.. All in all, I'm getting old!
EDIT:
Sorry just realised how much I ranted and how off topic this has got! - Wii U... I think that it's trying to get in to a market that already has 2 consoles and where their focus should be on budget family fun! I think it's a bad move for Nintendo, and the shareholders seem to agree!
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8726/wiiuoutput.jpg)
No Ethernet? Still, it is a prototype.
Quote from: skidzilla on June 10, 2011, 02:30:57 AM
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8726/wiiuoutput.jpg)
No Ethernet? Still, it is a prototype.
Online is always Last on the agenda for Nintendo, but it will ship with one, It would be luny tunes time if they did not. I am sure it already has built in wifi as for the controller it must be using that for sending data over rather then bluetooth?
All controllers on demo were usb wired, I am interested to see how real world the console can handle the data streams and handle them well, and say if you went bed and left the console on how well it would work etc.
That has to be so tight and performing well.
Wouldn't be surpsied if they didn't include ethernet and just internal wirelessN
Quote from: XEntity on June 09, 2011, 18:11:48 PM
Personally I'm not a fan of PC gaming anymore, but let me expand on that...
.. I have PS3 and XBox, I also have a laptop and an iPad, now the issue I have with PC gaming is location, each of these devices are in front of me most of the time that I am sat at home, XBox and PS3 connected to the TV and Laptop and iPad on my lap (depending on what I'm doing).
The thing that puts me off PC gaming is that I don't like sitting in a corner or in the other room on a computer, and is a little less social if I'm with my mates, I have considered setting up my cedia centre as a gaming PC, but I expect it would be a bit rubbish due to mouse and keyboard placement.
Also in terms of price, I don't think you could setup a good gaming rig for the cost of a console, maybe at launch price, but current prices I think not? Also over the many years I have had the consoles I hevent had to re-format, re-install or upgrade them.
The graphics on a PC would be much better, but I don't think the actual gameplay or enjoyment of the game is much different.
The other thing is take up of laptops, I haven't had a proper PC at a desk for a lot of years, and loads of people are the same, now laptops are cheap a lot of households have got rid of their PC, obviously hard core gamers will still have their rigs and a load of other demographics, but there is a definite shift.
However there are a couple of things that still attract me -
- The mouse and keyboard (of course!) it is much better and it's already been proved they are much better than a controller back in the dreamcast cross platform days
- Mods: Quake 1/2/3 multiplayer was quite good fun, but not as fun as the various mods that you could use on top!
- Price - Games are a lot less money, and if you are naughty then free!
I think for me personally times have changed, I don't have as much time as I'd like to play games, I don't have a desk in my house anymore, and I get pretty much everything I want on the console, I think if I went back now I'd get thrashed on a keyboard and mouse.. All in all, I'm getting old!
EDIT:
Sorry just realised how much I ranted and how off topic this has got! - Wii U... I think that it's trying to get in to a market that already has 2 consoles and where their focus should be on budget family fun! I think it's a bad move for Nintendo, and the shareholders seem to agree!
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/3443-The-Witcher-2-Assassins-of-Kings
Quote from: soopahfly on June 10, 2011, 12:36:41 PM
Quote from: XEntity on June 09, 2011, 18:11:48 PM
snip
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/3443-The-Witcher-2-Assassins-of-Kings
Haha... sorry :) (anyway I had much more punctuation :P )
looks sh*t
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Quote from: skidzilla on June 11, 2011, 01:18:08 AM
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brilliant
Wait, what??
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