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Title: Windows 7 bugs
Post by: Mark on September 09, 2009, 23:43:41 PM
Who has em ?

802.1x auth is STILL broken for WPA-Enterprise

Also, no wireless card I have tried roams between access points in a trapeze mobility domain

Even WPA-PSK auth takes longer than Windows XP
Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: Mark on September 10, 2009, 23:12:08 PM
problem 2: spurious addition of 0.0.0.0 as a default route.
Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: Beaker on September 10, 2009, 23:49:33 PM
Had no issues either wandering between access points,  or with WPA-PSK Authentication Speed.

Im using a crappy Broadcom of some flavour, and it flips between my 2 access points without a care.
Title: Windows 7 bugs
Post by: Sweenster on September 11, 2009, 00:12:09 AM
Tbh unless they have made a big change to the network software it will be sporadic like it has been in windows xp and vista.

Why ms cant get decent networking software right I dont know. Probably having to support too many different chipsets, that is the price you pay for having unlimited hardware choices. :)
Title: Windows 7 bugs
Post by: neXus on September 11, 2009, 06:38:12 AM
Quote from: SweensterTbh unless they have made a big change to the network software it will be sporadic like it has been in windows xp and vista.

Why ms cant get decent networking software right I dont know. Probably having to support too many different chipsets, that is the price you pay for having unlimited hardware choices. :)

Better then mac, have no end of issues on my macbook. Mind you a load of my day to day annoyances with that have been sorted with Snow Leopard
Title: Windows 7 bugs
Post by: Sweenster on September 11, 2009, 15:36:54 PM
Quote from: neXus
Quote from: SweensterTbh unless they have made a big change to the network software it will be sporadic like it has been in windows xp and vista.

Why ms cant get decent networking software right I dont know. Probably having to support too many different chipsets, that is the price you pay for having unlimited hardware choices. :)

Better then mac, have no end of issues on my macbook. Mind you a load of my day to day annoyances with that have been sorted with Snow Leopard

Never once had an issue with my macbook and I have connected it to a multitude of varying complexity networks. Unlike both my windows machines which are very tempremental when it comes to connecting to and staying connected to a network.
Title: Windows 7 bugs
Post by: bear on September 11, 2009, 16:01:57 PM
No network issues what at all in Ubuntu but I hear that some have issues with wifi after some upgrades.

Have a friend that cannot connect to a wifi with Vista he can connect at work but not at home it stays connected a short while but disconnects. My ubuntu lappy connected without any problems without me doing anything but starting up :)
Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: Mark on September 11, 2009, 22:50:22 PM
I am actually aghast that they have not fixed the 802.1x issue yet !! there are loads of places using WPA-Enterprise.

Seemingly, plenty of vista users have the same issue.
Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: bear on September 11, 2009, 23:39:05 PM
Quote from: MarkI am actually aghast that they have not fixed the 802.1x issue yet !! there are loads of places using WPA-Enterprise.

Seemingly, plenty of vista users have the same issue.

Yeah and this wifi AP has no security  at all  to make it easy to connect to (out in country with no nearby neighbours) and still he cannot connect I tried some fixes but non seem to help !!!
Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: Sweenster on September 12, 2009, 01:47:19 AM
Quote from: bear
Quote from: MarkI am actually aghast that they have not fixed the 802.1x issue yet !! there are loads of places using WPA-Enterprise.

Seemingly, plenty of vista users have the same issue.

Yeah and this wifi AP has no security  at all  to make it easy to connect to (out in country with no nearby neighbours) and still he cannot connect I tried some fixes but non seem to help !!!

I find just fiddling with the settings randomly and putting them back to how they should be eventually makes it work.

I know what the settings should be... but sometimes I think windows just ignores what you think and sticks in its own values till you tell it enough.

Oh and have they changed (read improved) the networking and wireless control panel section from Vista in 7. One thing that I seriously hate is how many random pop up windows there are in the default vista network management ap. Things that could be on 1 scrolling window end up in 10 different sub options each with their own window and no way back to the previous window without closing that one.
Title: Windows 7 bugs
Post by: bear on September 12, 2009, 02:05:42 AM
As I am running Ubuntu I havnt bothered looking to deep in to Vista but yes there seems to be is a lot of popups and hard to find ones way.
Title: Windows 7 bugs
Post by: knighty on September 12, 2009, 02:18:45 AM
7 is pretty much just vista..... fixed
(mostly)

Ive never had any problems with 7 (tho I dont use wireless)
Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: zpyder on October 24, 2009, 15:29:37 PM
The one true bug so far that Ive found is the Creative console launcher, I opened it up, reduced the bass, and then closed it, and it reported that it had stopped responding, I chose to close it, yet its still running, and the changes I made are still going.
Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: zpyder on December 30, 2009, 13:26:29 PM
Got a BSOD a few days ago.

And another today, when it rebooted it BSODd straight away again.

Seems since monday my comp has gone from being stable to a dog, with firefox crashing several times and Kaspersky having a few hissy fits.
Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: DEViANCE on December 30, 2009, 14:13:06 PM
windows 7 has been perfectly stable for me since Ive had it. Dont even think I have had to use the task manager or reset button.
Title: Windows 7 bugs
Post by: Leon on December 30, 2009, 14:51:28 PM
Still using the RC of Windows 7 Ultimate on both PC and Laptop and havent had any problems as of yet.
Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: Serious on December 30, 2009, 16:00:36 PM
Only problem Ive had is with the on board lan acting up, not a problem with windows 7 itself.
Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: zpyder on December 31, 2009, 09:11:01 AM
Now having to repair the network connection every time I reboot to get it to connect to the internet. Something has gone very wrong in the last week :(

Just got a new HDD so I guess its time to sort everything out so that Win 7 is on the C drive and not D now...
Title: Windows 7 bugs
Post by: White Giant on December 31, 2009, 21:49:47 PM
Fine for me, just wish I could move the show desktop button back to the left.

/Cue Google links . . .
Title: Windows 7 bugs
Post by: knighty on December 31, 2009, 22:07:45 PM
you can.... just need to add the quicklaunch menu back in... it was one of the first things I did !


http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/888-quick-launch-enable-disable.html

very first link google gave me :p
Title: Windows 7 bugs
Post by: DeltaZero on December 31, 2009, 23:01:05 PM
Quote from: Mark802.1x auth is STILL broken for WPA-Enterprise

In what way does this not work?
Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: Mark on December 31, 2009, 23:32:43 PM
It seems to be working now!

I have proper wireless (Because we resell it and I have trapeze lab gear), and until recently I had to use crappy PSK, now I can use radius again.

Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: DeltaZero on January 01, 2010, 01:56:59 AM
Quote from: MarkIt seems to be working now!

I have proper wireless (Because we resell it and I have trapeze lab gear), and until recently I had to use crappy PSK, now I can use radius again.



Ive had WPA-RADIUS / WPA2-RADIUS on XP, Vista & 7 with no problems other than the fact that troubleshooting is a lesson in guesswork as then a range of problems are covered under the same generic error messages!
Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: Mark on January 01, 2010, 14:59:59 PM
Using what wireless gear though?

And which EAP type or offload?
Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: Eggtastico on January 01, 2010, 15:06:42 PM
Quote from: zpyderNow having to repair the network connection every time I reboot to get it to connect to the internet. Something has gone very wrong in the last week :(

.

same problem... it happened when I realised I was connected wireless, where as I prefer wired. Disabled wireless & evey time on boot I had to unplug & plugin the network cable.
Removed the NIC from device manager, rebooted & its been fine since.

Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: DeltaZero on January 01, 2010, 17:03:46 PM
Quote from: MarkUsing what wireless gear though?

And which EAP type or offload?


Various.

Access points I can say worked for sure are HP AP420s, Netgear WAG302s, a cheap-o Edimax and Cisco Aironets.

I cant say for sure which EAP setup I had with which APs but in my parents house with AP420s..

- Domain joined machines auth via computer account
- Non domain joined auth via certificate and fall back to MS-CHAPv2 if no cert


The company Im thinking of with the Cisco Aironets used smart cards but I dont know the detail of the setup...
Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: Mark on January 01, 2010, 18:38:25 PM
Its always worked on everything except windows 7 until recently, always using trapeze, as its the best. It was most likely down to drivers.

The aironet access points will be irrelevant as its the controller where the eap processing takes place. Theyre big piles of dung anyway :) Were currently doing a buy back and replace with trapeze for customers. Leaves me with about 30 tonnes of access point and wireless controllers in the garage!

That 802.1x policy as you describe (via IAS Im assuming) is fairly standard, and would have been exactly as we would have been trying at a few sites. The debug logs on the controller always looked as if the authorisation request was denied, or that quiet-time had been exceeded. Bad drivers likely as above.
Title: Re:Windows 7 bugs
Post by: zpyder on January 01, 2010, 20:37:35 PM
Quote from: Eggtastico
Quote from: zpyderNow having to repair the network connection every time I reboot to get it to connect to the internet. Something has gone very wrong in the last week :(

.

same problem... it happened when I realised I was connected wireless, where as I prefer wired. Disabled wireless & evey time on boot I had to unplug & plugin the network cable.
Removed the NIC from device manager, rebooted & its been fine since.


It seems to have fixed itself now that all the updates are finally done :|

On the vista reinstall it was having similar issues, but this was solved by uninstalling the netgear software, which seems to have clashed with windows even though it was told to piss off. It was the quickest route though to install the drivers for the wireless card though.