A collegue just had BT Infinity fitted and is getting the below:
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2445101747.png)
Pretty astonishing. Blows my previously impressive Virgin connection of of the window.
Yep, I was looking at this last night as I'm about to switch to FTTC as my exchange has just had it rolled out, in some places (i.e London) they have ultra high speed fibre. I hope he's not on a capped tariff ;D
That surely can't be a FTTC job, althought I am aware of the London trials, I thought that service was currently at 80Mb/20Mb. Recently upgraded to a FTTC Service over Christmas, went from 2/0.5 to 75Mb/18Mb
Its the 160mb fibre to the premesis (FTTP) service which is substantially over performing on what they promised. Only £35 a month as well. Crazy.
http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/products/broadband/infinity
Limited availability at the moment.
We're trialling FTTP @ 330mbps shortly :)
Quote from: Maldonado on January 23, 2013, 20:37:55 PM
We're trialling FTTP @ 330mbps shortly :)
Who's we?
Wonder if Virgin will up their offering to keep pace.
I've been looking for a while at BT infinity packages and have been looking at other providers who use wholesale BT FTTC such as Zen, Eclipse, Sky and a few others but they all work out similar prices to Virgin if not more and most have usage caps.
No FTTP at the moment though :(
Been getting 30mbps on my Virgin connection that should have been doubled to 60mbps, so I think I'm gonna have to call them.
Quote from: addictweb on January 23, 2013, 20:42:02 PM
Quote from: Maldonado on January 23, 2013, 20:37:55 PM
We're trialling FTTP @ 330mbps shortly :)
Who's we?
Wonder if Virgin will up their offering to keep pace.
Lol
Virgin will probably say they'll upgrade, but it's all for nothing as they won't upgrade their backend so it will still be as sh*t as ever.
Digital Region :D No caps.
Quote from: Adrock on January 23, 2013, 20:44:24 PM
I've been looking for a while at BT infinity packages and have been looking at other providers who use wholesale BT FTTC such as Zen, Eclipse, Sky and a few others but they all work out similar prices to Virgin if not more and most have usage caps.
No FTTP at the moment though :(
Been getting 30mbps on my Virgin connection that should have been doubled to 60mbps, so I think I'm gonna have to call them.
I had the same problem mine should have been upgraded in Oct, decided to phone them up at the weekend, bloody useless they needed to remote access my computer to delete temporary files!!
Anyway turns out it was my DD-WRT router that for some reason was capping at pretty much exactly 30 Meg (Virgin router was running in modem mode) removed the DD-WRT router from the chain and now have 60 Meg :)
Plusnet now do an Unlimited package on FTTC.
Things have changed since I did my time there.
I downgraded from 100Mb to 30Mb (coz I'm f**king hardcore!) :w00t:
...or maybe just tight.
Quote from: Eagle on January 23, 2013, 22:04:18 PM
I downgraded from 100Mb to 30Mb (coz I'm f**king hardcore!) :w00t:
...or maybe just tight.
Lol, probably wouldn't notice a difference speedwise with Virgin anyway.
Quote from: addictweb on January 18, 2013, 15:37:48 PM
Its the 160mb fibre to the premesis (FTTP) service which is substantially over performing on what they promised. Only £35 a month as well. Crazy.
http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/products/broadband/infinity
Limited availability at the moment.
Probably down to the amount of people on it, moreover the lack of. AS more people get on it, it will drop to their predicted numbers and then of course they will sit on it till its overloaded and we start the hardware update cycle again in years to come :)
Quote from: soopahfly on January 23, 2013, 22:11:17 PM
Lol, probably wouldn't notice a difference speedwise with Virgin anyway.
To be honest, that's why. I went from 50 to 100 and thought 'what's the difference in real terms?'. Near to nowt so saved some cash. Went down to 25 and they upped it to 30. :tinhat:
Quote from: soopahfly on January 23, 2013, 22:11:17 PM
Quote from: Eagle on January 23, 2013, 22:04:18 PM
I downgraded from 100Mb to 30Mb (coz I'm f**king hardcore!) :w00t:
...or maybe just tight.
Lol, probably wouldn't notice a difference speedwise with Virgin anyway.
wrong. Im on 100mbit & get 100mbit. I would jump in a shot if we had an alternative here, but BT check says Id be lucky to get 2mb - and as Nexus says, as soon as more people start using the BT, speeds will most likely degrade.
I work for Plusnet and yes, we do unlimited (really unlimited) 80/20 FTTC and we're trialling FTTP & FTTP on demand.
Have to say though that my upload speeds are disgraceful with Virgin. Around 80KB/s. :thumbdown:
I've never understood that though - why are upload speeds so poor when uploading is a comparatively rare activity?... :tinhat:
Because the connection from the aggregation point (exchange / cabinet) is asynchronous. If they gave you higher upload speeds they'd need to limit your download :)
Since the knowledgeable are in here, can someone tell me why I still need to have a landline paid for to the tune of £100+ per year to have fibre when it has it's own wall socket/connection, I thought it didn't run over the regular line? Surely I should be able to have FTTC fitted without needing a phone line?
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on January 24, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
Since the knowledgeable are in here, can someone tell me why I still need to have a landline paid for to the tune of £100+ per year to have fibre when it has it's own wall socket/connection, I thought it didn't run over the regular line? Surely I should be able to have FTTC fitted without needing a phone line?
I just pay a token account for use of the "metal path"
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Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on January 24, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
Since the knowledgeable are in here, can someone tell me why I still need to have a landline paid for to the tune of £100+ per year to have fibre when it has it's own wall socket/connection, I thought it didn't run over the regular line? Surely I should be able to have FTTC fitted without needing a phone line?
Short answer? So Openreach make more money from you.
Quote from: soopahfly on January 24, 2013, 15:30:24 PM
I just pay a token account for use of the "metal path"
Can you pretened I'm thick (not hard) and elaborate on that for me?
Quote from: Maldonado on January 24, 2013, 09:06:37 AM
Because the connection from the aggregation point (exchange / cabinet) is asynchronous. If they gave you higher upload speeds they'd need to limit your download :)
Hmm, that doesn't ring true since the upload speed has been pretty much the same whether I have 25Mb or 100Mb.
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on January 24, 2013, 17:44:51 PM
Quote from: soopahfly on January 24, 2013, 15:30:24 PM
I just pay a token account for use of the "metal path"
Can you pretened I'm thick (not hard) and elaborate on that for me?
My phone line is voip, all goes over my fibre connection. In turn I have nothing to do with BT. I just have to pay a small amount to send data over the cable, but I have no dial tone.
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Quote from: Eagle on January 24, 2013, 19:02:46 PM
Quote from: Maldonado on January 24, 2013, 09:06:37 AM
Because the connection from the aggregation point (exchange / cabinet) is asynchronous. If they gave you higher upload speeds they'd need to limit your download :)
Hmm, that doesn't ring true since the upload speed has been pretty much the same whether I have 25Mb or 100Mb.
That's because your upload speed is set to whatever the ISP sets it to (+contention, etc.). You could be provisioned on 1/1, 10/1, 100/1... The upload is not proportional to the download.
Quote from: soopahfly on January 24, 2013, 19:16:55 PM
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on January 24, 2013, 17:44:51 PM
Quote from: soopahfly on January 24, 2013, 15:30:24 PM
I just pay a token account for use of the "metal path"
Can you pretened I'm thick (not hard) and elaborate on that for me?
My phone line is voip, all goes over my fibre connection. In turn I have nothing to do with BT. I just have to pay a small amount to send data over the cable, but I have no dial tone.
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How did you manage to get to that? I would love to ditch my phone service and get FTTC. How much do you pay to 'rent the metal'?
At the moment I am with Sky for phone, broadband and TV and it costs £60pm for sh*t tv, a phoneline I dont use and 3mbps BB.
FTTC is available to me but they want an extra 12.50pm and a £50 installation fee. If I can stop paying linerental for the phone I never use that would offset the cost of the FTTC abit.
or I am tempted just to f off sky and go with plusnet
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on January 24, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
Since the knowledgeable are in here, can someone tell me why I still need to have a landline paid for to the tune of £100+ per year to have fibre when it has it's own wall socket/connection, I thought it didn't run over the regular line? Surely I should be able to have FTTC fitted without needing a phone line?
It's still using the same copper line as you would on an ADSL/SDSL product, it's just a different type of filter. It's less flexible than ADSL and you can't just run filters from every extension from the house, it's has to be done from the master phone socket. That being said anyone still running separate filters should seriously look at a filter plate on the their master socket and ditch the separate filters.
If you can't get the equipment next to the master socket, like myself with lack of electrical sockets for Openreach VDSL Modem, Openreach engineers will as part of the connection fee use a "Data Extension Kit" which is just a plain old RJ11 cable that runs up to 30M, the point is, it has to come off that filter and be a dedicated socket. Really that shouldn't matter as you can just run any length of CAT from the terminating VDSL modem to your Cable/Wan Router port and put it where you want.
This is why I am very confused how on earth Soopah has a VDSL service on a dead phone line, sounds like FTTP to me but he said "metal path"?
Quote from: DEViANCE on January 24, 2013, 21:35:22 PM
How did you manage to get to that? I would love to ditch my phone service and get FTTC. How much do you pay to 'rent the metal'?
At the moment I am with Sky for phone, broadband and TV and it costs £60pm for sh*t tv, a phoneline I dont use and 3mbps BB.
FTTC is available to me but they want an extra 12.50pm and a £50 installation fee. If I can stop paying linerental for the phone I never use that would offset the cost of the FTTC abit.
or I am tempted just to f off sky and go with plusnet
This is exactly the situation I would like to end up in a few months time (my min. 2year business contract with BT expires in April). If I could pay for a 'rent the metal' solution and ditch the phone line I'd be very happy, even if I had to pay for install & modem/router.
I was under the impression that they always fit a dedicated line for fibre from the cab to your house (hence needing an installation) and as such you shouldn't need regular telephony at all if you don't want it.
Quote from: Maldonado on January 24, 2013, 19:17:43 PM
Quote from: Eagle on January 24, 2013, 19:02:46 PM
Quote from: Maldonado on January 24, 2013, 09:06:37 AM
Because the connection from the aggregation point (exchange / cabinet) is asynchronous. If they gave you higher upload speeds they'd need to limit your download :)
Hmm, that doesn't ring true since the upload speed has been pretty much the same whether I have 25Mb or 100Mb.
That's because your upload speed is set to whatever the ISP sets it to (+contention, etc.). You could be provisioned on 1/1, 10/1, 100/1... The upload is not proportional to the download.
Thanks - is it feasable to get it upgraded, if only by a wee bit? And, more to the point, is it worth asking?
I'm not with BT that's why. Fttc providers not on BT can offer metal path lines.
I'm on digital region which is south Yorkshire only.
I pay about a fiver for the line, and 25 for 40/10 but my broad band pisses on virgins and BT.
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Any idea if this is something Plusnet would offer? Obviously Sky won't, I could try Eclipse again but they are expensive and f**ked me around before so I vowed not to use them again.
Doubt it to be honest, as they are BT.
Nige - not sure what you're asking? We don't use Digital Region (apparently they never approached us!). We still charge line rental @ £13.99 but unlimited 80/20 fibre is £19.99 in market 3 areas so it's likely cheaper than DR or any BTW based supplier.
im with virgin - no phone connection, just VOIP that I have even got working with Sky & Sky Multiroom after some faffing about.
cant see how they can legally force you to have a telephone number if your connection doesnt need a number. Im paying about £200 a month for my media connectivities by the time I add them all up
Quote from: Maldonado on January 25, 2013, 12:35:51 PM
Nige - not sure what you're asking? We don't use Digital Region (apparently they never approached us!). We still charge line rental @ £13.99 but unlimited 80/20 fibre is £19.99 in market 3 areas so it's likely cheaper than DR or any BTW based supplier.
Yeah, but you guys have properly ballsed up the traffic management.
http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/speed_guide/traffic_management.shtml?source=keymatch
Quote from: Maldonado on January 25, 2013, 12:35:51 PM
Nige - not sure what you're asking? We don't use Digital Region (apparently they never approached us!). We still charge line rental @ £13.99 but unlimited 80/20 fibre is £19.99 in market 3 areas so it's likely cheaper than DR or any BTW based supplier.
Basically I'm after a deal like Soopah has
QuoteI'm not with BT that's why. Fttc providers not on BT can offer metal path lines.
I'm on digital region which is south Yorkshire only.
I pay about a fiver for the line, and 25 for 40/10 but my broad band pisses on virgins and BT.
'Cos I see no point paying £150 a year line rental when I never use the phone. I don't mind paying a non-calls/cheaper line rate but every package I've seen so far you have to have £10-15 line rental on top which is a joke.
@soopahfly
Nope, I'm quite happy that I can pull the few mbps I need for streaming whilst saturating my line with a torrent and still be able to browse happily. There are no hard rate limits set to different types of traffic on Unlimited (this would be breaching Ofcom regs)
@Nige
No can do. Gotta pay line rental if you want any form of DSL down your line - except possibly, Digital Region, not sure about them. However, don't be surprised if the entire DR network goes tits-up at some point in the next couple of years... Reading up about it looks like it's being sold off anyway. In any case, I think DR works out more expensive than Plusnet?
To both of you - I'm no fanboy, but I understand what we sell and use it (excessively) on the 'civilian' product...
(http://i.imgur.com/xvE7bxe.png)
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7591857/Capture.PNG)
That's just from Sab. Doesn't take into account any of my other stuff.
No traffic management, no blocked websites.
Usenet/P2P isn't QOS'd into oblivion, as the network was built with enough capacity.
Quote from: soopahfly on January 25, 2013, 19:22:59 PM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7591857/Capture.PNG)
That's just from Sab. Doesn't take into account any of my other stuff.
No traffic management, no blocked websites.
Usenet/P2P isn't QOS'd into oblivion, as the network was built with enough capacity.
Sour grapes? ;) we have 120gbps capacity and peak at around 70gbps usage. Did I mention that my 460gb is on my ADSL line? The only blocked sites are IWF = kiddy porn and qos /can't/ push traffic into oblivion, unless you CHOOSE to push your torrents out by streaming!
Sorry Nath, you're not going to win this one.
Let me put my money where my mouth is - Nige - sign up, if you're not happy I'll write the lot off, no contract. Can't say fairer than that, can I? :)
Not really, I just don't want BT anywhere near my telecoms.
A little late for that, perhaps? Who do you think sends out engineers for DR? ... Openreach :)
It's about as close as the get tbh
(http://www.dearcustomerrelations.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/bt-broadband-engineer-copy.jpg)
Nige - last chance for risk free fibre to settle this argument...
I can't sign up until my contract ends in April anyway - I do very much appreciate the offer though!