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Title: Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: neXus on February 10, 2010, 11:01:57 AM
I know the UK for example in places like down at the market it is still the good old days but....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Metric_system_adoption_map.svg

I did not realise it was so few countries left now. Kind of looks odd they are not with everyone else.
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 10, 2010, 12:23:03 PM
We dont use metric measurements for plenty of things even though we are officially allowed to, its not just down the market.
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: neXus on February 10, 2010, 12:38:13 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeWe dont use metric measurements for plenty of things even though we are officially allowed to, its not just down the market.
I know, was just an example. Still getting used to CM for my height and KG for my weight here.
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Quixoticish on February 10, 2010, 13:05:26 PM
Quote from: neXus
Quote from: Clockd 0NeWe dont use metric measurements for plenty of things even though we are officially allowed to, its not just down the market.
I know, was just an example. Still getting used to CM for my height and KG for my weight here.

KG for the weight of people confuses me. I learned in the metric system at school, I know what a kg feels like, I know what it looks like, I can picture a million and one things that weigh a kg, I even worked as a delicatessen for a number of years and worked everything in metric there.

Yet when it comes to the weight of people I can only picture and calculate it in good old fashioned stones.
Title: Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Sam on February 10, 2010, 20:47:22 PM
Dont even use stones here. Its pounds or nothing.
People here have no idea what a km or cm is. You could tell them a cm is as big as your hand and theyd believe you.
Title: Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: zpyder on February 10, 2010, 21:17:25 PM
Quote from: SamDont even use stones here. Its pounds or nothing.
People here have no idea what a km or cm is. You could tell them a cm is as big as your hand and theyd believe you.

But for science and things do the american scientists not use metric? Ive yet to read any form of paper which refers to the units of measurement in inches etc.

Mind you it does seem that acres and hectares are used on equal amounts.
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: knighty on February 10, 2010, 21:39:08 PM
iirc, didnt an american mission to send a sattalite to mars go wrong when it crashed into the surface, because the americans worked in inches and feet, but they outsourced most of the programing to india... where they worked in metric ?
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Ceathreamhnan on February 10, 2010, 23:50:47 PM
The O ring problem on the Shuttle take-off explosion was blamed on that I thought.

I think the American insistence on pounds is funny because they dont seem to scale up very well:

"how much does that pro footballer weigh?" "about 220 pounds"
"how much does that truck of bananas weigh?" "about 10000 pounds"
"Whats the displacement of the USS Nimitz?" "about 23000000000000000 pounds".. :mutley:
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: neXus on February 10, 2010, 23:54:11 PM
Quote from: knightyiirc, didnt an american mission to send a sattalite to mars go wrong when it crashed into the surface, because the americans worked in inches and feet, but they outsourced most of the programing to india... where they worked in metric ?

Yep, lol that is exactly what happened. I think They do use metric now in sectors like science to avoid these things now?

@Sam, Yeah, The weight not even stone has always confused me and when I have spoken to an American and mentioned weight and said stone I have even been asked "whats that". Odd that one.

@Chris: I am in the exact same boat there, got taught the metric and and science stuff I did was Kg and so on so a bag of flower I know what that was etc but when ever we did big things like your own weight etc it was always Stone and Pounds, Liquid still as Fluid Ounces.
I think When I was learning they were still in that transition period. So All of us around the same age mid-late 20s and just over all are in that odd place of knowing a bit of both but it being odd if used in the wrong context. It is why Fruit and Veg are still old school because no one bar 20 and under would have a blind clue what was what.
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 11, 2010, 00:06:01 AM
I dont really get stone as a measure. I mean its only people we measure in it, and it doesnt really have any bearing on other things. Im just as comfortable using kgs for weight, makes more sense to me.

A big CRT TV is 45kg. A big bloke might be 100kg. A saloon car maybe 2000kg. How many stones is a TV? How many stones is a car? About time we moved away from stones I think!
Title: Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: knighty on February 11, 2010, 00:38:33 AM
I totaly agree nige.... appart from a persons weight, or something that weighs about the same as a person...

Im 15 stone - that makes sence to me

210lb - makes no sence

95kg - makes no sence


45kg tv ?  what the heck is that ?
7stone tv.... ohh, i see... its a heavy tv ;)
Title: Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: neXus on February 11, 2010, 01:05:57 AM
Quote from: knightyI totaly agree nige.... appart from a persons weight, or something that weighs about the same as a person...

Im 15 stone - that makes sence to me

210lb - makes no sence

95kg - makes no sence


45kg tv ?  what the heck is that ?
7stone tv.... ohh, i see... its a heavy tv ;)

95kg of pure muscle though hey Alan :P
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Mark on February 11, 2010, 01:07:23 AM
Im more comfortable with imperial measurements
Title: Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Sam on February 11, 2010, 05:13:26 AM
Quote from: zpyder
Quote from: SamDont even use stones here. Its pounds or nothing.
People here have no idea what a km or cm is. You could tell them a cm is as big as your hand and theyd believe you.

But for science and things do the american scientists not use metric? Ive yet to read any form of paper which refers to the units of measurement in inches etc.

Mind you it does seem that acres and hectares are used on equal amounts.

Yes on an academic level its metric.
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Mongoose on February 11, 2010, 12:10:07 PM
I was submitting images for my journal article the other day and was confronted with "images should be 8.85cm across at 600dpi".

I acknowledge that the calculation is hardly difficult, but it seems to me that a lot of confusion would be saved if they just said 3.5 inches, or 250dpcm.
Title: Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Edd on February 11, 2010, 14:23:06 PM
i much prefer metric in everything apart from miles and miles per hour
Title: Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: bear on February 11, 2010, 14:33:30 PM
Since I lived so long time in USA I am kinda bi, I prefer metric but I have a good sense of what a pound is or gallon
onces, mph etc.
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: zpyder on February 11, 2010, 14:51:21 PM
I dont have a problem with inches for some things, things like snow etc always sound better in inches than cm.

5cm of snow versus 2 inches etc.

Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 11, 2010, 18:08:40 PM
I think theres no one measurement that caters for every scenario so were always going to have to use a number of measurements. Maybe well go completely metric eventually, but not for a generation or two yet I think.
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: bear on February 11, 2010, 19:16:06 PM
Quote from: MongooseI was submitting images for my journal article the other day and was confronted with "images should be 8.85cm across at 600dpi".

I acknowledge that the calculation is hardly difficult, but it seems to me that a lot of confusion would be saved if they just said 3.5 inches, or 250dpcm.

Strange mix but i never heard dpcm used only heard of dpi, sorta used as a standard I believe and if it is in inch or centimeters doesnt really matter ?
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Serious on February 11, 2010, 20:02:27 PM
Quote from: knightyiirc, didnt an american mission to send a sattalite to mars go wrong when it crashed into the surface, because the americans worked in inches and feet, but they outsourced most of the programing to india... where they worked in metric ?

They also told a sat to look for mount Everest on Earth. The sat finished searching then, logically, turned around and began searching space. They had told it the height in metres but it was dealing in miles.

Quote from: CeathreamhnanThe O ring problem on the Shuttle take-off explosion was blamed on that I thought.
 

Pretty sure the O ring was a cold issue, it got chilled during the night and let hot gasses past while warming up.
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Mongoose on February 12, 2010, 10:24:59 AM
Quote from: bear
Quote from: MongooseI was submitting images for my journal article the other day and was confronted with "images should be 8.85cm across at 600dpi".

I acknowledge that the calculation is hardly difficult, but it seems to me that a lot of confusion would be saved if they just said 3.5 inches, or 250dpcm.

Strange mix but i never heard dpcm used only heard of dpi, sorta used as a standard I believe and if it is in inch or centimeters doesnt really matter ?

no Ive never heard of dpcm being used either, but I cant comprehend the supposed benefit of using cm for length and dpi for resolution.

I am essentially bilingual when it comes to distance measurements, but I stick to metric or imperial for any given sentance!
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: bear on February 12, 2010, 12:44:05 PM
Quote from: Mongoose
Quote from: bear
Quote from: MongooseI was submitting images for my journal article the other day and was confronted with "images should be 8.85cm across at 600dpi".

I acknowledge that the calculation is hardly difficult, but it seems to me that a lot of confusion would be saved if they just said 3.5 inches, or 250dpcm.

Strange mix but i never heard dpcm used only heard of dpi, sorta used as a standard I believe and if it is in inch or centimeters doesnt really matter ?

no Ive never heard of dpcm being used either, but I cant comprehend the supposed benefit of using cm for length and dpi for resolution.

I am essentially bilingual when it comes to distance measurements, but I stick to metric or imperial for any given sentance!

Screens are still in inches maybe that is why ? no i dont se any benifit but I think most metric countries just look at  it as DPI (not thinking of it as having anything with

inches to do) so it doesnt seem to matter.
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Beaker on February 12, 2010, 17:09:44 PM
When they defined everything should be metric, they carried on making car tyres in inches because its the established unit of measurement for that.  The only company that I can think of off-hand that made Metric tyres was Rover, and I remember getting tyres put on my Metro Van at work, about 3 times the price of the Imperial Measurements!

We still use miles and yards in the UK from a cost issue.  Anyone want to try and put a figure on what it would cost to re-sign the entire country?  Never mind that the government would ultimately have to cough up the cash for converting cars to show the major speed markings in kph rather then mph.  Same reason theyll never change us to driving on the left (never mind the safety issues involved with that).  

I think its more down to a practical point of view.  I can convert approximately in my head, but I know my parents cant (My Brother-in-law is the same, and he designs high precision machine tools!).  

Title: Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Sam on February 12, 2010, 21:44:59 PM
Its actually safer to drive on the left, some studies have shown. Something to do with which eye tends to be dominant in most people.
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Ceathreamhnan on February 13, 2010, 06:08:12 AM
Im on a train just now travelling between Sweden and Denmark; the two countries travel on different sides of the railway so they have to swap at Malmo. Imagine if you had to do that while driving :lol:
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Ceathreamhnan on February 13, 2010, 06:11:00 AM
Döppel-posting :x  
Title: Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Sam on February 13, 2010, 06:51:04 AM
I was in Sweden over Christmas. Nice isnt it.
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Ceathreamhnan on February 13, 2010, 06:53:49 AM
Its Baltic!
Title: Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: bear on February 13, 2010, 06:53:49 AM
Quote from: SamI was in Sweden over Christmas. Nice isnt it.
Title: Re:Countries NOT using the metric system
Post by: Mongoose on February 15, 2010, 14:01:55 PM
Quote from: BeakerSame reason theyll never change us to driving on the left

remind me not to drive to Preston!